AirRyan
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Bombardier C Series 110 And 130 - Any Info?

Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:40 am

Does anyone have any data on these new aircraft and in specific how they will compare to the offerings by Embraer, Airbus, and Boeing?

I'm assuming the following are the main competitors:

Boeing: 737-600 (Now that the 717 is no longer available)
Airbus: A318 and A319
Embraer: EMB-170 - 190

How are they going to market this aircraft? Cheaper, more fuel efficient, etc?

What kinds of engines will the customer have to choose from?

GE:
P&W:
RR:

The flight deck I would imagine will probably be that of a current CRJ?

http://www.canadair.com/en/3_0/3_8/3_8_2.jsp

[Edited 2005-08-19 21:47:23]
 
DfwRevolution
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RE: Bombardier C Series 110 And 130 - Any Info?

Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:52 am

>> I'm assuming the following are the main competitors:

The main competitors are the 736/A318 and 73G/A319. All C-series variants are larger than the E190/E195, and range is more comperable to the 737NG/A320 types.

>> How are they going to market this aircraft?

Good question !

It really is questionable how Bombradier will make a product out of the C-series. They are targeting increased fuel efficency and greater revenue potential than the 737NG and A320, but it is hard to see how they will accomplish this. For Bombradier to really have a compelling product, they need the suppliers (namely engine manufactures) to launch a new generation of power plants.

The big players like CFMI and IAE have already said they will not be launching a new engine for the C-series, so Bombradier must make use of existing engines. One likely canidate is the PW6000. What CFMI and IAE are waiting for is Boeing or Airbus to move, so when they do, they will (most likely) quickly outclass whatever the C-series accomplishes.

BTW - there are some preliminary specifications (MTOW, OEW, range, fuel capacity, pax. configs, etc) floating around. I'll check my history and see if I've still got the links

[Edited 2005-08-19 21:55:26]
 
AirRyan
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RE: Bombardier C Series 110 And 130 - Any Info?

Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:45 am

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 1):
BTW - there are some preliminary specifications (MTOW, OEW, range, fuel capacity, pax. configs, etc) floating around. I'll check my history and see if I've still got the links

Thanks for the intel whenever you might get around to it.

Embraer has done a really nice job of assembling their data. The E-190 and E-195 appear to offer at least similar passenger numbers to the C 110 and C 130 (not to be confused with the mighty Hercules!)

http://www.embraercommercialjets.com/english/content/home_ejets/
 
DfwRevolution
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RE: Bombardier C Series 110 And 130 - Any Info?

Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:54 am

>> Thanks for the intel whenever you might get around to it.

My history only goes back 6 days, so I've been unable to find anything on my browser.

If Planemaker is still lurking around, he could probably shed some light on your question better than I...
 
yul332LX
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RE: Bombardier C Series 110 And 130 - Any Info?

Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:52 am

Quoting AirRyan (Reply 2):
Embraer has done a really nice job of assembling their data. The E-190 and E-195 appear to offer at least similar passenger numbers to the C 110 and C 130 (not to be confused with the mighty Hercules!)

The E195 does offer similar pax numbers to the C-110 but that's about it.



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mrocktor
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RE: Bombardier C Series 110 And 130 - Any Info?

Sat Aug 20, 2005 1:28 pm

Quoting YUL332LX (Reply 4):
The E195 does offer similar pax numbers to the C-110 but that's about it.

That and *it exists*.



Sorry, just coudn't help it Big grin

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RE: Bombardier C Series 110 And 130 - Any Info?

Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:53 am

Quoting AirRyan (Thread starter):
What kinds of engines will the customer have to choose from?

GE:
P&W:
RR:

All these manufacturers have said they think the business case for the Cseries is too weak and they won't launch an engine for it. P&W Canada eventually came forth and they will launch an engine for the Cseries. The difference is probably Canadian government money.

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