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EA 727-100s White Paint Vs. Silver

Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:02 am

Hello all...sorry if this has already been addressed, but I have a question for the forum.

I have noticed pics of Eastern's 727-100s and I notice many white ones as well as many silver ones. The years of the pics don't seem to matter. I see all-white ones in the early 70s, through the 80s and 90s.

My question is...why is this? Yes I know some airlines keep their planes silver for cost-cutting measures and I know some "silver" planes are eventionally painted in a grey/white color scheme as parts are changed and there are too many shades of silver...

But why does Eastern seem to have white 727-100s and silver 727-100s from the 70s through the 90s?
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JPZ1991
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RE: EA 727-100s White Paint Vs. Silver

Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:51 am

The721's in white are from the early days. I'm not sure when, but they changed the whole fleet to silver, there may have been some lag time in the conversion in which case you'd see a combo of both white & silver
 
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RE: EA 727-100s White Paint Vs. Silver

Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:53 am

Originally the hockeystick was white on top. At some point, the fuselage was made silver - except the A300 fleet...
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MakeMinesLAX
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RE: EA 727-100s White Paint Vs. Silver

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:03 am

You'll see the same if you do a search for Eastern's "opposite", Western Airlines.

Other airlines which went through the same white-to-silver transformation are USAir and Aeromexico. United experimented with a half-way approach:


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RE: EA 727-100s White Paint Vs. Silver

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:24 am

My late father worked at EA until '87, I remember the white being gone by the end of '84, begining of '85.

For sure there was no white during the strike, and shutdown.
 
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RE: EA 727-100s White Paint Vs. Silver

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:25 am

I think AA had a (or a few) "white" a/c as well. I'll look it up later.

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RE: EA 727-100s White Paint Vs. Silver

Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:48 am

I still think the EA paint scheme (white w/hockey stick) is one of the best out there. I wonder how long it would have remained had hard financial times not come, or even how long the stick on silver would have lasted.
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RE: EA 727-100s White Paint Vs. Silver

Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:55 am

The buffed aluminum was introduced in 1976 I believe. EA had some 721's still with the white crown as late as the early 80s and even had some painted all neutral gray.
 
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RE: EA 727-100s White Paint Vs. Silver

Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:04 am

The silver livery at Eastern was partly in response to the first gas crisis in the US during the early 1970s - taking much of the paint off of the airplanes are using the meal finish saved a bit of weight (a couple of hundred pounds or more) on each airliner and thus saved energy. Whats the saying? Every little bit helps. The metal look also freshened up Eastern's classic look. Do note that EA's A300s never had the polished metal look, but thats another story, AA flew their A300s is the horrible battleship gray colors until it was figured out how to polish up the metal and alloys used by Airbus.
 
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RE: EA 727-100s White Paint Vs. Silver

Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:07 am

There's an article in Airways Magazine that goes into great detail as to why many airlines left the bellies of their aircraft bare. I believe it made it easier to search for corrosion or dirt kicked up from the landing gear. Eastern's and American's A300s had to be painted white or grey to protect the fuselage sections from corrosion because Airbus didn't treat them with Alclad.
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RE: EA 727-100s White Paint Vs. Silver

Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:00 am

In the early and mid 1980s Eastern had a large number of 727-200s in two versions of a grey scheme with cheatlines both along the window line and under. Painted to avoid expensive time polishing and cleaning, they looked horrendous, almost as if they were camouflaged and looked a lot dirtier than the polished metal and the white machines ever did.
 
MakeMinesLAX
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RE: EA 727-100s White Paint Vs. Silver

Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:33 am

Quoting NWOrientDC10 (Reply 5):
I think AA had a (or a few) "white" a/c as well.

You probably have the Reno Air MDs in mind.
 
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RE: EA 727-100s White Paint Vs. Silver

Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:20 am

Weren't the 727-200's that Eastern bought from PSA painted grey because they could not polish them for some reason? For a short period Eastern kept the PSA scheme with EASTERN titles. This caused confusion amog the passengers. I wonder how they will react when they go to the gate expecting to board US AIRWAYS and see the PSA retro paint.
 
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RE: EA 727-100s White Paint Vs. Silver

Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:25 am

Quoting MakeMinesLAX (Reply 11):
You probably have the Reno Air MDs in mind.

Didn't they fly some DC-10's from Western that were white? I remember them between ORD-DFW for 6 months to a year, and the dark blue leather seats up front. Don't know if they leased them for a period of time or acquired them and converted over time.
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