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DL To Start Bloomington-Normal, IL. To ATL

Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:28 am

Press Release Source: Delta Air Lines


Delta Connects Customers in Atlanta and Fast-Growing Central Illinois
Monday August 22, 2:40 pm ET
Delta Connection carrier ASA offers new non-stop service, special introductory fares between Atlanta, Bloomington, Ill.


ATLANTA, Aug. 22 /PRNewswire/ -- Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL - News) will link Atlanta and one of the most significant emerging travel gateways in the Midwest -- Bloomington, Ill. Beginning Dec. 1, Delta Connection carrier Atlantic Southeast Airlines (ASA) will offer customers three daily, round-trip flights between Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport and Central Illinois Regional Airport.
"It's a privilege to add the 'Twin Cities' -- Bloomington and Normal -- to the growing list of communities we serve," said Bob Cortelyou, Vice President - Network and Schedule Planning. "Delta's service to Atlanta will offer Bloomington customers convenient access to more than 210 destinations worldwide."

To encourage customers to check out its new service, Delta is offering special low introductory fares for travel between Dec. 1, 2005 and Feb. 14, 2006. Passengers should hurry to take advantage of these fares, as tickets must be purchased by Sept. 6, 2005.

Sample one-way introductory fares (based on a round-trip purchase) between Bloomington and ...


Atlanta $119
Raleigh-Durham, N.C. $84
Washington (Reagan National) $89
Orlando, Fla. $99
Tampa, Fla. $104
Jacksonville, Fla. $104
West Palm Beach, Fla. $114
Fort Lauderdale, Fla. $114
Miami $114
Greensboro, N.C. $119
Fort Myers, Fla. $129

Additional taxes/fees/restrictions apply. Fares shown are available only
for purchase on delta.com or from a travel agent. See below for more
details.

ASA will operate the new service to Bloomington with the popular Bombardier CRJ200 aircraft. The 50-seat jet is known for its convenience, comfort and speed, and carries passengers in a two-by-two seating arrangement.

Delta's new daily non-stop service between Atlanta and Bloomington effective Dec. 1:


Flight Departs Arrives
4634 Atlanta at 11:02 a.m. Bloomington at 11:45 a.m.
4656 Atlanta at 4:02 p.m. Bloomington at 4:45 p.m.
4657 Atlanta at 8:50 p.m. Bloomington at 9:36 p.m.
4633* Bloomington at 5:40 a.m. Atlanta at 8:29 a.m.
4634 Bloomington at 12:15 p.m. Atlanta at 3:04 p.m.
4656 Bloomington at 5:15 p.m. Atlanta at 8:07 p.m.

*Flight begins Dec. 2

Located in the heart of central Illinois, Bloomington is headquarters for several well-known corporations, including State Farm Insurance and Mitsubishi Motors North America. The region also is one of the nation's most productive agricultural areas.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050822/clm050.html?.v=18
 
IADLHR
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RE: DL To Start Bloomington-Normal, IL. To ATL

Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:44 am

I seriously doubt if the traffic is there to sustain both DL and Airtran. In addition, DL serves PIA-ATL 4 times a day. PIA is about 40 miles from Bloomington/Normal.

For the life of me, considering DLs precarious financial situation, I do not see why they have decided to take on Airtran in these small/medium size markets in the midwest.

Is there anyone out there how can enlighten us to what DL is thinking?
Do they think that if they get rid of Airtran in the midwest, they will be just fine? Sounds, to me , thats what they possibly think. Incredible.
 
padcrasher
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RE: DL To Start Bloomington-Normal, IL. To ATL

Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:54 am

This is a zero sum game. It's not just about this one market. Airtran takes the revenue from this market and uses it to sustain and grow other markets in direct competition with Delta. It's not alway about the specific route economics. There are strategic reasons as well.
 
kbmiflyer
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RE: DL To Start Bloomington-Normal, IL. To ATL

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:26 am

Wow,

I didn't see this one coming. I thought we might get service to CVG, but not ATL. This will certainly help me on my trips to Florida.

I don't see how both Delta and Airtran can sustain these routes. Airtran is the largest carrier here and I think does pretty well. But there are only so many people from the area flying to the south every day.

Also interesting that the schedule almost exactly mirrors Airtran's schedule, within 45 minutes on all of the flights. I would have liked to see a little later in the morning flight, maybe 7:30 or so. Flights before 6:00 am are just to early for me.

Maybe this is finally the start of some new service to other markets. AA to DFW, UA or F9 to DEN (F9 express rumor has been around for a while), US to DCA (this is is pretty old).

[Edited 2005-08-22 22:29:44]
 
727LOVER
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RE: DL To Start Bloomington-Normal, IL. To ATL

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:32 am

This was Airtran's last monopoly route from ATL, correct?
Love Trumps Hate
 
srbmod
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RE: DL To Start Bloomington-Normal, IL. To ATL

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:39 am

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 4):
This was Airtran's last monopoly route from ATL, correct?

Yup.

Delta once again is making a mistake by entering an AirTran market using CRJs.

And the introductory fares are still more than what AirTran is offering.

This folks is why FL is making money and DL isn't.
 
IADLHR
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RE: DL To Start Bloomington-Normal, IL. To ATL

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:43 am

I know for a fact, that at one time, there was talk of Airtran starting Bloomington-BWI nonstop. I also know for an absolute fact that PIA has had talks with AA about operating PIA-DCA.

With the addition of these flights announced today and it could be quite possible that with the PIA flights to ATL there will be more flights from central Illinois to ATL than either ORD or STL. If you factor in the flights from Moline, for sure there are more to ATL. Interesting.
 
flymli
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RE: DL To Start Bloomington-Normal, IL. To ATL

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:47 am

MLI and BMI are the last two AirTran cities that DL wasn't in to ATL. There is no doubt that DL is on a mission. It is hard to believe that DL is in CMI which is 60 east of BMI, BMI, PIA which is 40 west of BMI and now MLI. This region cannot support all of these additional seats. There is a big meeting in MLI on Aug. 23 to discuss DL and FL with 100 business leaders from Iowa and Illinois. Should be very interesting.
 
IADLHR
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RE: DL To Start Bloomington-Normal, IL. To ATL

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:47 am

Has DL ever entered a market with RJs that FL was in and ended up driving FL out of the market?
 
padcrasher
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RE: DL To Start Bloomington-Normal, IL. To ATL

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:48 am

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 5):
Delta once again is making a mistake by entering an AirTran

If you've got the data please share. I see scores on International/Domestic markets where DL will be the sole airline offering 1 connection service.
 
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RE: DL To Start Bloomington-Normal, IL. To ATL

Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:54 am

I would have thought Delta had more to worry about than a p*ssing contest with Airtran.

Meanwhile Delta shares are hovering near their 52 week low.

It looks like a new policy - if we fly to lots and lots and lots of places, we won't go bankrupt.

Rono Dutta famously said that market share trumps profitability. But eventually, one day, somewhere along the line, you have to make a profit.

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CIDFlyer
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RE: DL To Start Bloomington-Normal, IL. To ATL

Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:40 am

on the one hand it does seem odd that many of the central Illinois towns served by Delta are having their flights bypass the Delta CVG midwest hub in favor of ATL. You would think CVG would be a nicer alternative to capacity clogged ORD. On the other hand, DL could probably gain more business travellers for international flights. The ATL megahub offers numerous destinations in the Carribean, South America and Europe. I believe two airlines can coexist with flights to the same hub. AA and UA have done it for years to many cities with ORD, so why should FL and DL be any different for ATL?

[Edited 2005-08-23 02:40:54]

[Edited 2005-08-23 02:42:25]
 
IADLHR
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RE: DL To Start Bloomington-Normal, IL. To ATL

Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:35 am

CIDflyer

There has been extremely serious consideration given to DL startiing PIA-CVG. There is a desperate need for service to a hub other than ORD for connections to the east and midwest. At one time STL was a viable alternative to ORD. However, when AA took over TW and downsized STL that option more or less c disappeared as flights from central Illinois-STL were reduced.

The last I heard about the possible PIA-CVG service was that it might start by years end, that was several months ago. Some how, with all these new ATL flights, I seriously wonder if DL will start the CVG service.
 
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RE: DL To Start Bloomington-Normal, IL. To ATL

Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:48 am

Quoting IADLHR (Reply 12):
There has been extremely serious consideration given to DL startiing PIA-CVG

I did read somewhere that PIA applied for a SCASD grant to have either DL start service to CVG or NW to DTW. It looks like they have a good shot at getting it. I agree with you, PIA really needs another hub for eastern connections other than ORD.
 
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RE: DL To Start Bloomington-Normal, IL. To ATL

Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:19 am

Is there anyone out there how can enlighten us to what DL is thinking?
Do they think that if they get rid of Airtran in the midwest, they will be just fine? Sounds, to me , that's what they possibly think. Incredible.

Yes, f'ing "incredible" as you say. In a capitalistic society that is so preached on here except where Airtran or any similar low cost airline has a monopoly on a route, how freakin' dare some old company such as Delta decide to enter a route such as BMI or any other comparatively sized city and take the monopoly away from Airtran. What I see here is that as long as Airtran has a monopoly route it's just fine but as soon as any other company joins in it just has to be a grand conspiracy. How hypocritical as perhaps in the same vein Airtran should stop flying because DL was flying all the other routes first give or take a few.
 
IADLHR
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RE: DL To Start Bloomington-Normal, IL. To ATL

Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:33 am

Notdownlocked

The point we are trying to make is that DL is on the brink of bankruptcy.
They are chasing after FL in cities in the midwest where there is perhaps limited and even questionable numbers of possible passengers to fill all the seat that will be available to fly to ATL or beyond, when DL enters these markets.

In the case of BMI, they will be a new airline going up against an entrenched and successful carrier who does not use RJs in flying to ATL.

It is being done at the expense of cities in the east, west and even midwest that probably cry out for even one nonstop flight a day from PIA,BMI and Moline.

If you understood the dynamics of this part of the country, you would understand what we are talking about.
 
misbeehavin
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RE: DL To Start Bloomington-Normal, IL. To ATL

Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:12 pm

I'm not sure of the economics, but I sure welcome this new service.

I fly ATL-BMI-ATL several times a year and have had to connect through DTW and fly on the filthy NW aircraft. It will be great to have non-stop service on DL.
 
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RE: DL To Start Bloomington-Normal, IL. To ATL

Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:18 pm

IADLHR From Italy, joined Apr 2005, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted Tue Aug 23 2005 04:33:25 UTC+2 and read 65 times:


Notdownlocked

The point we are trying to make is that DL is on the brink of bankruptcy.
They are chasing after FL in cities in the midwest where there is perhaps limited and even questionable numbers of possible passengers to fill all the seat that will be available to fly to ATL or beyond, when DL enters these markets.

In the case of BMI, they will be a new airline going up against an entrenched and successful carrier who does not use RJs in flying to ATL.

It is being done at the expense of cities in the east, west and even midwest that probably cry out for even one nonstop flight a day from PIA,BMI and Moline.

If you understood the dynamics of this part of the country, you would understand what we are talking about.

No I don't understand what you are speaking to me directly about. What about DL being on the brink of bankruptcy? What if UA or US or even perhaps NW or a more healthy WN decided they spotted a viable market from BMI to ATL and decided to add it, what is the difference in your eyes? How can you differentiate? How about if UA started flying 744's in the market since you state the RJ just doesn't add up to the "dynamics" of the market in which you state. Please educate me and help me to understand that my opinion is that to me there obviously is a market for both carriers but if I understand your point there is only room for one and only the "chosen" one is accepted and seen to be viable in this market. What made you come to the conclusion that Airtran is the chosen instrument to fly this monopoly route. Explain to me and all that will read this post what are the dynamics of this "special" part of the country that should be exempt from fair competition. If I remember correctly it is up to the persons buying the ticket to decide.

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