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CO Widebodies On Domestic Routes

Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:36 am

Does anyone know what routes use widebodies from CO's hubs?
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RE: CO Widebodies On Domestic Routes

Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:50 am

At present--very very few. They are maxed out on widebodies until 787s and 777s come online for the increased international services. The additional 753s they picked up from TZ will be going on routes that use to have widebodies--more than likely. Right now, the only domestic widebodies are: IAH-EWR-IAH (1 or 2 762s), IAH-HNL (2 764s), IAH-OGG (1 764), and EWR-HNL (1 764).
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RE: CO Widebodies On Domestic Routes

Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:34 am

Also:
LAX-HNL (764)
 
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RE: CO Widebodies On Domestic Routes

Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:37 am

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 1):
Right now, the only domestic widebodies are...

Add to that a split 762/764 LAX-HNL
 
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RE: CO Widebodies On Domestic Routes

Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:49 am

Please see below for a list of CO domestic widebody activity in August 2005.


Al Org Dst Flight Equip Dep Arr Op Days
CO EWR HNL 15 764 1330 1805 12.4567
CO GUM HNL 2 764 0600 1705 1.....7
CO GUM HNL 86 764 0815 1920 ..3....
CO HNL EWR 14 764 2130 1300 1234567
CO HNL GUM 1 764 1400 1730 ....56.
CO HNL GUM 73 764 1640 2010 1......
CO HNL IAH 72 764 1930 0805 ...45..
CO HNL IAH 86 764 2115 0955 .2.....
CO HNL LAX 12 764 2050 0500 123..67
CO IAH HNL 1 764 0935 1245 ....56.
CO IAH HNL 73 764 1220 1525 1.3....
CO LAX HNL 3 764 0940 1210 1234..7
CO EWR HNL 15 767 1330 1805 ..3....
CO GUM HNL 2 767 0600 1705 .23456.
CO HNL GUM 1 767 1400 1730 1234..7
CO HNL IAH 2 767 1830 0705 1234567
CO HNL IAH 72 767 2115 0955 ..3..67
CO HNL LAX 12 767 2050 0500 ...45..
CO IAH HNL 1 767 0935 1245 1234..7
CO IAH HNL 73 767 1135 1440 .....6.
CO IAH HNL 73 767 1220 1525 ...45.7
CO IAH OGG 49 767 0945 1240 .2.....
CO IAH OGG 49 767 1135 1430 .....6.
CO IAH OGG 49 767 1215 1510 1.345.7
CO LAX HNL 3 767 0940 1210 ....56.
CO OGG IAH 48 767 1800 0630 1234567
 
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RE: CO Widebodies On Domestic Routes

Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:56 am

Thanks travelin man--I forgot to add LAX-HNL and HNL-GUM. Njintern--you forgot IAH-EWR with the 762.

Quoting MakeMinesLAX (Reply 3):
Add to that a split 762/764 LAX-HNL

Those are not 762s--they are 764 and 76Hs (the 764s with fewer business class seats/more economy). Continental refers to the 76Hs as 767 in their timetables.
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RE: CO Widebodies On Domestic Routes

Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:26 am

I've had airfares come up in the past year with 777's connecting IAH-EWR. I'm sure those aren't regular flights, but they did show up on continental.com when connecting to one airport through the other. (Looking for various miles runs.)
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RE: CO Widebodies On Domestic Routes

Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:48 am

Quoting Lemurs (Reply 6):
I've had airfares come up in the past year with 777's connecting IAH-EWR.

I've seen them too, and I've been told they're positioning flights to get widebodies between the two international ops hubs, but you don't see them in the peak summer season.
 
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RE: CO Widebodies On Domestic Routes

Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:37 am

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 5):
Those are not 762s--they are 764 and 76Hs (the 764s with fewer business class seats/more economy). Continental refers to the 76Hs as 767 in their timetables.

Seems a little screwy, but thanks for pointing that out.
 
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RE: CO Widebodies On Domestic Routes

Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:15 pm

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 7):
Quoting Lemurs (Reply 6):
I've had airfares come up in the past year with 777's connecting IAH-EWR.

I've seen them too, and I've been told they're positioning flights to get widebodies between the two international ops hubs, but you don't see them in the peak summer season.

Not anymore--the 777s are maxed out on international runs. I've flown IAH-LAX-IAH and EWR-IAH on the 777; but those days are over for a while. They use to fly CO1/2 IAH-HNL-IAH on the 777 too. CO sometimes sends heavies down to SDQ, SJU, and AUA from EWR.
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RE: CO Widebodies On Domestic Routes

Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:36 pm

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 9):
I've flown IAH-LAX-IAH and EWR-IAH on the 777; but those days are over for a while.

While IAH-LAX-IAH 777 went away with the Gulf War 2 (used them for troop transport, never returned to the route AFAIK), the 777 still does fly between EWR-IAH most of the time, just not in the peak summer travel period for Europe unless it is a reposition. In winter, expect to see one 777 flight at day between the 2, as well as 1 767. 767 (764, 76H, 762) could also return to LAX-IAH this winter as it has been that way every winter I've been living here (6).
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RE: CO Widebodies On Domestic Routes

Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:44 pm

BTW - there are two 762 flights EWR-IAH daily right now. Winter one will likely return as a 777.
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RE: CO Widebodies On Domestic Routes

Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:31 pm

Quoting Lemurs (Reply 6):
I've had airfares come up in the past year with 777's connecting IAH-EWR.

CO 51 was downgraded from a 777 to 757 sometime this Summer.
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RE: CO Widebodies On Domestic Routes

Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:48 pm

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 12):
CO 51 was downgraded from a 777 to 757 sometime this Summer.

depending on how the winter works out, you might see a 762 take over for a 764, a 764 take over for a 777 in europe, then the 777 end up back on that route for repositioning daily, likely replacing the 762, with another 762 serving LAX, etc., etc.. all depends on how CO calculates their demand.
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RE: CO Widebodies On Domestic Routes

Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:54 pm

It is even Rumored for a Downgrade of LAX-HNL
 
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RE: CO Widebodies On Domestic Routes

Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:08 pm

I hate the timing of HNL-LAX on CO. Last thing I want after a nice vacation is to take a too short red-eye and arrive tired to my home. Not to mention that you must check out of your hotel many hours before the flight leaves.

Other airlines offer day flights as well.

But downgrading the 764 to a 762 means a huge hit in cargo, and LAX-HNL-LAX is an important cargo route, connecting a major US sea port in LAX to HNL, and providing Hawaiian goods to a large market in Southern California.
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RE: CO Widebodies On Domestic Routes

Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:55 pm

Don`t forget EWR-MCO. There is usually one 767-2 or -4 coming in once a day. Haven`t seen any 777's lately. Just depends on load factors. Probably won't see anymore widebodies coming into MCO after CO picks up more TZ 757-300's.
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RE: CO Widebodies On Domestic Routes

Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:38 pm

Quoting MX757 (Reply 16):
Don`t forget EWR-MCO. There is usually one 767-2 or -4 coming in once a day. Haven`t seen any 777's lately. Just depends on load factors. Probably won't see anymore widebodies coming into MCO after CO picks up more TZ 757-300's.

There are no 767's of any kind running EWR-MCO anymore...better to use narrowbody lift domestically anyway...
 
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RE: CO Widebodies On Domestic Routes

Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:12 pm

I saw a CO 767-400 in Orlando (MC0) yesterday..They are regular substitutions all the time, however I believe are not scheduled.
 
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RE: CO Widebodies On Domestic Routes

Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:18 pm

Yeah the CO 767s sub for 757s frequently--they've been on IAH-MSY flights and IAH-CUN as well. When will the definitive winter skeds be loaded?
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