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AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:42 pm

No idea why the headline says "59" aircraft though.

NEW DELHI: The first-ever outcome budget presented in Parliament on Thursday said approval for acquisition of 50 aircraft by Air India was expected this financial year.

The approval for acquisition of 43 aircraft by Indian Airlines will also be obtained, it said without giving a timeframe.

[Edited 2005-08-25 16:43:43]
 
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Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:01 am

I'm currently kneeling with my eyes closed and praying for this to happen.

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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:03 am

That some great news, but when will they approve it finally ?

Do you have any link which mentions the same ? I did a quick search but could not find one.
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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:03 am

source! source! and as you yourself say this financial year, I'd say too early to celebrate. Sorry for pouring cold water, but better be reasonable.
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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:06 am

Here's the source. Of course I wouldn't just make it up! Big grin

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1210671.cms
 
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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:08 am

thanks!! but lets keep the celebration for the time when GOI acutally pays the initial deposit.
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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:11 am

read the same article, but eevryone faster..

A provision in the budget implies that it IS approved by the way.. normal parlamentary procedures - NOTHING is in the budget WITHOUT APPROVAL

By the way, and I have said that in the IC Thread:

Indian Airlines (IC) Fleet Deal Today @ Cabinet (by Mrniji Aug 25 2005 in Civil Aviation)

Though I do not like Chidambram (not coz he is a TamBram, Texdravid  - other reasons), it seems like that he was a drivinf force.. when it comes to "Market Decisions", he is the right man... hopefully the airbusses come "in a new livery for IC (I hate the current one), or better, an AI Livery" but merger unlikely

And I think AI needs a peppier livery for single deckers

By the way the headline of the article implies that some idiot wrote it

[Edited 2005-08-25 17:14:50]
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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:29 am

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 6):
By the way the headline of the article implies that some idiot wrote it

Maybe not.. 9 and 0 are side-by-side.  Wink
 
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Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:53 am

Re language splits and funnies, nonsequiturs and unintended consequences

here in the midwest if you say AI to someone they will think you are referring to artificial insemination of cattle.
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Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:13 am

IA fleet acquisition plan in eGoM's court

Quote:
New Delhi, Aug. 25 (PTI): Giving a thrust to the much- delayed fleet acquisition plan of the Indian Airlines, the Cabinet Commitee on Economic Affairs (CCEA) tonight referred the matter to an empowered Group of Ministers (eGoM) for a final round of price negotiation with European aircraft manufacturer Airbus Industrie.

The final round of negotiations would be carried out with the European consortium "within a month", sources said after an hour-long meeting of the CCEA chaired by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

The composition of the eGoM would be decided by the Prime Minister, they said, adding that there would be no further discussion in the Cabinet on the matter after the eGoM takes a decision.

As per its latest project report, the Indian Airlines has planned to acquire 43 Airbus aircraft of different mix at a total cost of Rs 10,237 crores.

The need for a final round of price negotiations arose after a group of MPs wrote to the government quoting reports that the Airbus Industrie had offered a lower price for a similar order by a Southeast Asian airline.

 
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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:56 am

I saw an interview with P.Chidambaram on CNBC late in the evening, where there was mention of both airlines.

For Air India: he said that his ministry had cleared the deal and it was forwarded to.........[crap i forgot which committee], but it seemed to definitly take place by Diwali or October end.

For Indian Airlines the news anchor mentioned that the meeting had approved the deal and now they will negotiate the price with Airbus in the coming month and the decision is expected to be arrived at within the next 3 weeks.

And if anyone can please find the link to Seans post on the steps involved in the approval process.
 
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Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:13 am

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 10):
And if anyone can please find the link to Seans post on the steps involved in the approval process.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eral_aviation/read.main/1834706/6/
BINGO!.
Check reply #11.
As per the list its the Final step. bigthumbsup 
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Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:20 am

Quoting Blrsea (Reply 9):
The final round of negotiations would be carried out with the European consortium "within a month", sources said after an hour-long meeting of the CCEA chaired by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

The composition of the eGoM would be decided by the Prime Minister, they said, adding that there would be no further discussion in the Cabinet on the matter after the eGoM takes a decision.

this says it all. Guys keep your cork screw handy!!
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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:24 am

Finally.Its going to be Inked soon.

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Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:28 am

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 10):
the decision is expected to be arrived at within the next 3 weeks.

3 weeks!! You mean my grand children will not be discussing when this order might materilize?

Overall I am so glad that IC is this close to getting new aircrafts.

So from what I understand so far:

IC - The decision to buy new aircrafts has been approved by all committes and sub-committies, cabinets, PMO, and everybody else involved. Now the IC folks have to negotiate price and place the order. Anybody know when deliveries are to take place?

AI - One last approval is required (The mighty cabinet from Sean's list). However provisions for this sale have been made in the budget and so it seems like the cabinet has already approved of this deal (during the budget making process) or is very close to approving the deal. So the official order will be placed in October/Diwali time. When might these deliveries start taking place?
 
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Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:46 am

Air India ( and Air New Zealand) are the only airlines which Boeing has not yet released the photos of their livery on the 787. Any one think Air India might change their livery soon? and Boeing is waiting until then to release the photos?
 
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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:25 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 15):
Any one think Air India might change their livery soon? and Boeing is waiting until then to release the photos?

Boeing could very well be waiting for some other reason, probably for AI/GOI to make up its mind.
As for the livery, the palace windows are going nowhere.
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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:34 am

Please remember that the time durations in Indian beauracracy is similar to football. You know how long a "american football minute" lasts, don't you? Big grin
 
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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Fri Aug 26, 2005 5:04 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 15):
Any one think Air India might change their livery soon

After the once tried time NO WAY.
Probably Boeing is Awaiting the Ink on the Paper  Smile
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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Fri Aug 26, 2005 5:11 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 18):
After the once tried time NO WAY.

Actually, who knows. They might even change it. Remember they hired an image makeover firm recently.

I wouldn't keep my fingers crossed but who knows if they do change it.
 
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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Fri Aug 26, 2005 5:28 am

A week is a long time in India politics - financial year is an eternity - I can almost see Laloo Prasad Yadav (Railway Minister) asking for the same money to be given to Indian Railways for the LTV !!!

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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:17 am

here is some detailed information

Airbus bags IA deal

The Cabinet Committee on Economic Affairs (CCEA) on Thursday granted an in-principle nod to the $2-billion project and referred the order to an empowered group of ministers (EGoM), which will now conduct a final round of time-bound price negotiations with Paris-based Airbus Industrie.

The fresh aircraft purchase deal to be concluded by EGoM, said government officials, would be final and would not have to be referred back to the Cabinet.

"The entire deal is expected to be finalised in a month’s time after which IA will be able to place orders for the commercial jets,"an official said.

IA has proposed to buy 19 Airbus A319s, four A320s and 20 A321s. The planes would be inducted in the IA fleet over the next four years. While 70% of these 43 aircraft would replace the carrier’s aging fleet, the remaining would be used for capacity enhancement. Among the aircraft that would be phased out are 11 Boeing 737s, which comprise the Alliance Air fleet, 15 A-320s which are on lease and three A-300s.

The Times of India

similar article also by Forbes
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Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:33 pm

Very good news for Indian Aviation.. Let me just mention that the BJP led NDA failed 5 (!!) years to do so, and the UPA has managed in a little more than a year (which is still too long). If anyone is interested, I can send you an article of an author who puts the effectiveness of AI in relation of the effectiveness of governments (i.e. coalition governments etc).. good read from EPW

Quoting Sunnyb (Reply 19):
Actually, who knows. They might even change it. Remember they hired an image makeover firm recently.

Makes sense. But they will probably only slightly modify it.. the windows will have to stay - something really ethnic would do - the current livery looks bad on the Rustbuckets ..This is pure speculation though
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Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:46 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 15):
Air India ( and Air New Zealand) are the only airlines which Boeing has not yet released the photos of their livery on the 787.

Actually, they have released one of Air India.

 
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Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:55 pm

Quoting Ha763 (Reply 23):
Actually, they have released one of Air India.

This livery makes the 787 look like an Airbus A310.. they need something more original for the single deckers.. but the double deckers do well with the present livery..

and.. when will AI order the 380?  bigthumbsup 
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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:00 pm

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 24):
when will AI order the 380

When the Local Airports can hold them  Smile

So Finally IC & AI can move on in the next couple of Months. bigthumbsup 
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Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:16 pm

Quoting Ha763 (Reply 23):
Actually, they have released one of Air India.

Wow - that looks incredible! All the best to AI/IC - I hope they can get their acts together and realize that cooperation is their best bet at the moment.
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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:33 pm

The AI livery looked good Only on the B747s.
Probably because the Windows streching well forward.
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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:17 pm

By when would the first deliveries start if the order were to be placed by the end of the year.

Also, i seriously doubt the 20 odd 787-800s can be used to replace the rugged and convinient 310 fleet.

310--is a perfect aircraft for the routes it flies[i am not talking about the interiors here]

737-800s---too small for 310 replacement markets of SIN/KUL/SEL and other eastern countries, however is a good and adequate aircraft to provide the frequencies for the middle eastern sectors

787-800s---their strength lies in LongHaul sectors with thin demand like India-Japan.,MAA/BLR/HYD--USA, COK-UK and BOM/DEL--Europe.
I do not see them flying to routes like India-SIN/BKK/KUL etc. which are less than 5-6 hours of duration.
 
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Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:23 pm

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 28):
787-800s---their strength lies in LongHaul sectors with thin demand like India-Japan.,MAA/BLR/HYD--USA, COK-UK and BOM/DEL--Europe.
I do not see them flying to routes like India-SIN/BKK/KUL etc. which are less than 5-6 hours of duration.

that's precisely the point I tried to make in one of the threads, A310 and B787 are in different league. Those differing better get their facts right!!
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Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:06 pm

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 28):
Also, i seriously doubt the 20 odd 787-800s can be used to replace the rugged and convinient 310 fleet.

many airlines use widebories like these (here the 777) for medium haul. I see no problem. Moreover, Kharan Bhaaii, 28 787s or 20 787s (even if odd) are a HUGE difference  Wink - and don't forget the 777-300 ER, which also could be used for SE Asia, Japan etc.. I prefer travelling in a widebody at any point of time
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Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:57 am

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 30):
28 787s or 20 787s (even if odd) are a HUGE difference

Thats because 20 were firm and 8 were options thats why i put it as 20 odd wink 

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 30):
many airlines use widebories like these (here the 777) for medium haul. I see no problem

Thats because SQ and TG pick up hordes of connecting/transit passengers also the 777-200 is the smallest aircraft in their fleet.

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 30):
don't forget the 777-300 ER, which also could be used for SE Asia, Japan etc.. I prefer travelling in a widebody at any point of time

It is safe to assume that all of us prefer travelling on widebodies on such sectors, but my point being the 787-800 is not made for this route, if it were the 787-300 it would have been perfect.

Regarding the 777-300 ER, they will be used on LHR sectors mostly on the afternoon flights out of BOM/DEL/BLR and the new CCU/Dhaka sector also for expansion to Canada and USA via fifth freedom points.

I do not see them used to Japan--too large an aircraft, the 787-800 is tailor made for such a route. The india-Japan market relies more on 5th freedom pax and transit pax.
 
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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Sat Aug 27, 2005 6:31 pm

Any Idea How long after will Production will the B787s arrive,Presumingly the Deal goes through  Smile
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Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:28 pm

something interesting that is being negotiated along with the AI deal.

A-I set to pitch for MRO, training unit with Boeing

BANGALORE: Air-India is clearly becoming more business-savvy. It plans to leverage India’s counter-trade norms during its $5-7-bn aircraft acquisition to secure support from Boeing to set up an MRO (maintenance, repair, overhaul) and training facility in India for the growing aircraft population in the sub-continent.

The facility is likely to be branched across Delhi, Mumbai, Kochi and Bangalore/Hyderabad. Since an MRO spells big-ticket returns, business for ancillary industries and job opportunities for engineers, the project is being eyed with avid interest in aviation circles. The Kochi unit may deal with the single-aisle, new generation Boeing 737-800/900 planes, while other centres may undertake wide-bodied aircraft repair and maintenance.

V Thulasidas, MD, Air-India, told ET that it will seek Boeing’s assistance to set up a certified MRO in the near future. Presently, most of the advanced checks are done overseas for Indian aircraft. The present consolidated fleet size is around 200 planes. The growth in aircraft fleet of most Asian carriers, and arrival of new players has ensured that an MRO will do great business in this part of the globe. The facilities run in places like Singapore are said to be in constant demand, with aircraft queuing up for slots.

The Economic Times

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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:32 pm

I think this order will only become a reality when that flying death trap called Agra (VT-EVA) comes down one of these days, due to crap falling off it (those who have flown that horrile stinky a/c, esp in economy, know what i am talking about).

Every possible thing on that a/c is broken... and that is what is on the interiors that are visible to pax. God alone knows what the hell is happening in the rest of the airplane that we cannot see.

As is typical in India, it will take the deaths of a few hundred innocents for the GoI to wake up and do something!

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Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:54 am

Quoting 22right (Reply 34):

the solution to the problem you raised lies not in new aircraft, but overhauling of the work culture at AI and IC. We are expecting that partial propitiation or IPO might help improve accountability, but I have my doubts. Situation is not going to improve unless the private partner has the controlling stake in the organization. I think at the moment it is better left to Left!
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Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:04 am

Great news for Air India. Hopefully the final approvals for the deal will be concluded soon. I was wondering in the future could AI be a potential customer for the 747ADV?
 
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Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:19 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 15):
Air India ( and Air New Zealand) are the only airlines which Boeing has not yet released the photos of their livery on the 787

I've got a Boeing issed photo of Air NZs B787. The photo also shows NZs B772ER
 
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Sun Aug 28, 2005 5:08 pm

Actually, they have released one of Air India

The red nose is missing!!!
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Sun Aug 28, 2005 5:16 pm

Quoting 22right (Reply 34):
Every possible thing on that a/c is broken... and that is what is on the interiors that are visible to pax. God alone knows what the hell is happening in the rest of the airplane that we cannot see

You need not worry on the maintenance part. AI engineering is world class.
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Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:27 pm

Quoting Aseem (Reply 33):
MEL!! grab a pen and paper and starting working on your resume!!

Just what I was thinking.At work We were discussing the same.Why bother about B737NGs & A320s when the opportunity to Work on AI B772LR,B773ER & B787s are there.  bigthumbsup 
I'll work even 5 nights If I have too.I hope the deal goes through fast.

Quoting 22right (Reply 34):
Every possible thing on that a/c is broken... and that is what is on the interiors that are visible to pax

Interiors may be neglected on that Aircraft but it has no relation to the Structural & Mx point of view.Its for the Cabin handling section of Mx to replace the damaged parts.

Quoting Aseem (Reply 35):
Situation is not going to improve unless the private partner has the controlling stake in the organization

Agreed Privatise.

Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 39):
You need not worry on the maintenance part. AI engineering is world class

The Mx Facilities are Indeed world class.Just a few persons Work culture has to change.
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Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:26 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 27):
The AI livery looked good Only on the B747s

Couldn't agree more on this!
The livery somehow looks very odd on the rustbuckets!
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Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:46 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 40):
Interiors may be neglected on that Aircraft but it has no relation to the Structural & Mx point of view.Its for the Cabin handling section of Mx to replace the damaged parts.



Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 39):
You need not worry on the maintenance part. AI engineering is world class.

You guys may very well have a basis to make the assertion that AI engg is up to par. But I am basing my assessment of AI (as a lay-man passenger) on the condition of it's aircraft interiors.

Also pls help me understand what is this finger pointing about the "Cabin handling section of Mx" to fix the interiors... either you do a good job on the whole a/c or you dont. I have a really hard time beleiving they are really doing a good maintenance on the overall aircraft if they cant fix things such as:

- several broken tray tables
- insulation/rubber tubing hanging down from the sides of the lavs around rows 49-50
- some sort of paneling coming off inside at least 3 out of the 4 lavs in that same lav section
- headphone volume control permanently stuck on maximum on some seats
- window shades not working
- a stale, musty stench inside the a/c
- torn seats
- and many many others

God knows if rats from Mumbai have chewed thru cables and wires inside the a/c.

My assertion is that they are so short of a/c that keep their damn a/c very busy and have no time to do routine maint. and repairs on the a/c. I think this situation may get better if they get a lot more a/c.

I know, I know... all u know-it-alls are going to jump on me for this... but hey I am just a dumb-f*** passenger.
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Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:51 pm

Quoting 22right (Reply 42):
I know, I know... all u know-it-alls are going to jump on me for this... but hey I am just a dumb-f*** passenger.

I second you.. when I flew VT-EPW DEL-FRA, the condense water dripped on my neighbor, when I flew back, it dripped on me (first flight: Seat 1K, second flight, Seat 1A). Maintenance though is world class. But a pax assesses the interior, I agree. But from October this year (or little later), the 744s will be completely refurbished, with AVOD etc..  Wink
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Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:04 pm

Quoting 22right (Reply 42):
My assertion is that they are so short of a/c that keep their damn a/c very busy and have no time to do routine maint. and repairs on the a/c.

Agreed Totally To Me Cleaning is the 1st part of Mx & Cabin Interiors are no different.They may not be a Safety aspect.But do influence a Pax view of an Airline.
Faulty volume control etc could be attributed to lack of time/spares.But the Cabin crew have a logbook that they report on about the Cabin snags to Mx.
Im really disapointed that the smallest snag is not attended to.

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Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:51 am

here is some news which does not paint a very rosy picture, or as rosy we were presuming. At least we can see them moving. Sad

Inter-ministerial panel discusses AI fleet acquisition plans
NEW DELHI, AUG 31 (PTI)

Air-India's plan to acquire 50 Boeing aircraft at an approximate cost of Rs 30,000 crore moved a step forward, with the first round of inter- ministerial consultations prior to approval by Public Investment Board (PIB) being held here today.

Officials of Ministries like Finance, Commerce and Civil Aviation, besides Planning Commission and those from the public sector carrier held the first round of pre-PIB discussions today, sources said.

Generally, at least two rounds of pre-PIB discussions take place before the issue is referred to the PIB for its nod. Once the PIB clears the plan, the Union Cabinet's approval is required before the airline can formally place the orders.

The sources said certain clarifications have been sought from the airline, but refused to elaborate.

The government has set up a three-member Oversight Committee, headed by former Comptroller and Auditor general C G Somaiah to go through AI's acquisition process. The other members are Expenditure Secretary Adarsh Kishore and Civil Aviation Secretary Ajay Prasad.

Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel has also suggested to the government that a Group of Ministers or a Committee of Secretaries be formed for final examination of the process, as has been done in the case of Indian Airlines. After examining the recommendations of an in-house techno-economic committee appointed to examine the bids by manufacturers like Boeing and the Airbus Industrie, the Air- India Board had on April 26 approved the purchase of eight Boeing 777-200 LR (long range) in three class configuration, 15 Boeing 777-300 ER (extended range) 350 seater and 27 Boeing 787 medium capacity long range 250 seater aircraft in two class configuration.

These Boeing planes have been selected in three categories -- medium capacity ultra-long range, medium capacity long-range 350 seaters and medium range 250 seaters.

The fleet plan is intended to meet Air-India's requirements from 2006 through 2013.

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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:52 pm

Quoting Aseem (Reply 45):

By Diwali,things should conclude is the Rumour.
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RE: AI Order "Almost" Approved!

Fri Sep 02, 2005 3:07 am

It cleared the Pre PIB stage today.
 
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Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:49 am

Quoting Blrsea (Reply 17):
You know how long a "american football minute" lasts, don't you?

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Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:24 pm

I hope AI Starts Recruiting AMEs soon considering the Lengthy Process.
B787s,B772LR,B773ERs would beat the B737NGs,A320s & B752SFs anyday.
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