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Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:42 pm

I recently went to Embraer's website and until recently, they never put up the range of the ERJ-145XR. To my surprise, it is 2000nm. The same range as their E70's. I was wondering, would an airline put a regional on such a long flight? For example, would Continental Express, (seeing they are the only airline with the aircraft), fly a route such as EWR-COS, or even EWR-BOI and would these routes be profitable? Would passengers be comfortable on such a long flight on an RJ? I know people on this forum love to complain about RJ's and long flights, but they do exist. I believe the longest route for Continental Express is IAH-BFL at 1240nm, still air distance is 1348nm and a flight time of over 3.5 hours. What are your thoughts?

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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:52 pm

Quoting LUV4JFK (Thread starter):
IAH-BFL at 1240nm

EWR-OKC is 1300+, not to be picky. I'm pretty sure that's already over 4 hours of block time because of the Newark taxiing issues build into the schedule, and while flight time is what matters to the aircraft... block time is what matters to the pax in the aircraft. Personally, I'll take an ERJ over a 737 any day, I'm not a people person and that A seat suits me perfect. The seat pitch is the same too, so the only issue is head room, but how often are you actually standing upright on the aircraft anyways? Not to mention I'm only 5'8" so ERJ's are fine for me as well.
 
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:55 pm

Air Canada has flown the CRJ-700 over 4 hours on Toronto-Phoenix. To be fair, though, Air Canada's CRJ-700 have 34" pitch in coach, a first class cabin, and are in the process of getting PTVs installed in every seat.
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:59 pm

Quoting LUV4JFK (Thread starter):
I believe the longest route for Continental Express is IAH-BFL at 1240nm, still air distance is 1348nm and a flight time of over 3.5 hours. What are your thoughts?

I've flown Canadair RJ MCO - BOS via DCA. Seat pitch was the same, seat size was the same. Just less people with smaller carry-on in the cabin.

Was as pleasant, and in some respects pleasanter, than a Song 757 nonstop.

Don't forget that these RJ's also have corporate uses, as well. The long range is an advantage in getting corporate customers. Plus, many an aircraft has found its market opportunity shrink due to unexpected demand for the aircraft on routes far longer than what the manufacturer expected.
 
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:59 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
Air Canada has flown the CRJ-700 over 4 hours on Toronto-Phoenix. To be fair, though, Air Canada's CRJ-700 have 34" pitch in coach, a first class cabin, and are in the process of getting PTVs installed in every seat.

These are not 700s, AC Jazz got 705s ... Meaning this is the 900 tube with only 75 seats ... Instead of 86 (correct me if I'm wrong) for America West's 900s.
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:29 pm

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 1):
Quoting LUV4JFK (Thread starter):
IAH-BFL at 1240nm

EWR-OKC is 1300+, not to be picky.

I was using nautical miles, not statute miles.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
Air Canada has flown the CRJ-700 over 4 hours on Toronto-Phoenix.

Well at least someone is flying for 4 hours on an RJ.

And just to edit my original post, I see that EWR-BOI is over 2000nm, so that flight was not possible.

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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:03 am

Having extra range sure comes in handy, too, when circling Atlanta for hours on end due to thunderstorms.
 
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:14 am

Quoting LUV4JFK (Reply 5):
I was using nautical miles, not statute miles.

I see my error, I was under the assumption OnePass miles are nm's not sm's.. and having flown that route quite a few times i knew it was 1300
 
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:52 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
Air Canada has flown the CRJ-700 over 4 hours on Toronto-Phoenix. To be fair, though, Air Canada's CRJ-700 have 34" pitch in coach, a first class cabin, and are in the process of getting PTVs installed in every seat.

sounds better then flying international with some american carriers  Smile
 
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:26 am

I hear CO is working w/ Embraer on a system of drop tanks for their RJ fleet, in order to open up new trans-atlantic service from EWR...  highfive 
 
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:36 am

AC will also be flying the Embraer 190 from YYZ-YLW non-stop in the coming months, I believe thats about 1910nm and has a scheduled flight time of 4 hours and 40 minutes.
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:17 am

I really don't consider the 170/190 range of aircraft as regional aircraft per se. The cabins appear to be just as un/cramped as most other narrow body aircraft with the exception of no middle seats.
 
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:21 am

The 170/190 series are like the first genaration of small mainline jets
like the DC9-10's BAC 1-11's and the F28's but with a lot more range.
I would have preferred to be on USEx 170 versus the A319 this past
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:38 am

Lufthansa to Iceland IIRC with the CRJ.

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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:38 am

Get your head out of the North American aviation map and look at routes within regions like China and Asia in general. A couple of thousand miles is essential to operate some inter-city thin services within China or around that region.

That is the region where sales and growth are exploding. That's where the E-jets and others will be selling extended range versions.
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:08 am

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 14):
Get your head out of the North American aviation map

Excuse me. Most of the replies are from people that live in N. America.

Okay...so do you want to fly a regional from NGB to KIX? It is within the range of most regionals and is a whole lot easier than taking the train to PVG or you could take an MU 320 from NGB to PVG for a 20 min flight and connect on to KIX.
 
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:29 am

Slightly off topic: Air Tahiti flies PPT/Tahiti to Gambier on an ATR, flight time around 3.5 hours. The world's longest scheduled turboprop service
 
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:56 am

Air Nostrum flies quite long routes with CRJ under the IB code

PMO & NAP are the longest routes from the MAD hub
HAJ & BRI from BCN

But the longest route YW actually flies is SDR-LPA covering 1250 milles in 3 scheduled hours. Nice to see SDR airport traffic nowadays  

Awnsering your question...
Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?
Yes, if there's money but not enough PAX to fill a mainline a/c

[Edited 2005-08-30 00:28:41]
 
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:09 am

The reason RJ's are deployed on longer routes is simple:

The airline could not otherwise profitably serve the route with mainline aircraft. RJ's help grow (or maintain) routes that otherwise may not be possible with a 737/A319. That's generally good for passengers as well as airlines.

Also, remember - not all RJ's are created equal. United for instance is putting F and E+ on many of thier 70 seaters and Embraer's (via thier Express Partners of course). Honestly, if I have F and E+ on an RJ it really doesn't matter that much. Sure your not going to get a hot meal, but it's better than connecting through otherwise undesirable hubs/routes.

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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:17 am

Jazz rides a RJ daily down here to dallas from toronto. That is the smallest aircraft other than a Md80 that flew that route..I didn't think that was possible for that little bird.
 
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:20 am

Quoting Mymiles2go (Reply 18):
Sure your not going to get a hot meal,

Like you would anywhere else either in this day and age.
 
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:25 am

Lufthansa does or did i am not sure, fly a CRJ-700 on FRA-KEF, 1300nm exactly. I think those are about 3:30 - 3:40 in each direction.

United Express flies a CR7 on ORD-SLC, 1086nm, They still do or used to, i am not sure, fly SFO-AUS 1307 nm CR7, HP flies PHX-YEG CRJ-900, which is 1374nm, about 3:30 as well each way.

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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:10 am

Quoting LUV4JFK (Thread starter):
Would passengers be comfortable on such a long flight on an RJ?

After seeing the inside of the EMB170 on Friday, I would say this aircraft BLOWS AWAY all other RJ's with respect to comfort and space. The Shuttle America N358RW had 6F/64Y with plenty of leg rooms and very comfortable leather seats. If I had to fly JFK-IAH or ATL-CUN on this flight I wouldn't complain. I founf the legroom and width to be just as good (actually better) than most narrowbodies (B737/MD80) that I have flown on.

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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:30 am

Quoting AC787 (Reply 8):
sounds better then flying international with some american carriers

Try better than most US carriers...

Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

I would have to say, nowadays in the U.S. YES, and they will cram as many seats as they can put in the damn plane to boot. I feel under the money crunch airlines would rather be guaranteed a full a 70 seat CRJ than risk flying larger aircraft and be only 80% full most of the time. I guess "low fares" or rather much higher operating costs bar airlines from flying those types of routes anymore.

I would have to say if there was a regional jet that could fly for 6-7 hours U.S. carriers would ETOPS certify it and use them on low yield overseas markets. Comfort is never a primary concern nowadays in America, only profitability, because the antiquated cost structure of American Legacy carriers are causing them to hemorrhage cash in a deluge. Offering "low fares" isn't the way to go when per mile costs of each legacy flight is exorbitant, especially due to the much, much higher pay scales and rampant inefficiencies that Legacies have to deal with as opposed to low-cost-carriers which, unlike the Legacies mis-understanding of the term, offer low airfares AND have more efficient low cost corporate structures.
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:59 am

Delta use to do JFK - DFW in a CR7. That was most likely very close to the 4 hour range.
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:59 am

American Eagle is now running ERJs ROC-DFW. I like the ERJ, but that's a long time to be within one. Still, with those huge windows...
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:01 am

Hey Jetter2

The Jazz RJ's are now 705's and will soon become mainline EMB175's I believe at the end of Sept or early Oct..I do not know if this is permanent or just for the time being as the 705's go through the IFE mod

Anyway happy spotting in DFW

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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:08 am

I have to say, I flew IAD-IAH just last week on the 145XR. It really bad at all -- certainly not worse than CO mainline in coach -- and, in my opinion, a lot nicer!

I can't complain that IAH-SJC was in F, of course  Smile

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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:19 am

Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 21):
Lufthansa does or did i am not sure, fly a CRJ-700 on FRA-KEF

Lufthansa no longer serves KEF. In fact, no Star Alliance carrier does.
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:04 pm

Quoting LUV4JFK (Thread starter):
I believe the longest route for Continental Express is IAH-BFL at 1240nm, still air distance is 1348nm and a flight time of over 3.5 hours.

The longest CoEx flight is IAH-BOI at 1495 miles, blocking at a whopping 3 hours and 58 minutes
some of the other longer ones...

IAH-BFL is 1438 miles at 3:39
EWR-OKC is 1335 miles at 3:35
EWR-TUL is 1225 miles at 3:34
IAH-YYZ is 1292 miles at 3:14
IAH-IAD is 1204 miles at 3:12

...there are others about as long but I can't remember off the top of my head - its getting late...

For Eagle DFW-ROC is 1262 at 2:58 on a CR7


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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:25 pm

Quoting LUV4JFK (Thread starter):
For example, would Continental Express, (seeing they are the only airline with the aircraft), fly a route such as EWR-COS

EWR-COS would be a goldmine trip; when I used to work the curb back in the WP days, we had to beat people away with a stick from both the CO and the WP EWR runs with 737's. No problem at all packing an RJ with this route every day of the week and twice on sunday; distance might cause weight/fuel problems though. Anyone out there know the specifics and if this would be a problem?
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:34 pm

Quoting FlyXJT (Reply 29):

For Eagle DFW-ROC is 1262 at 2:58 on a CR7

DFW-ROC is blocked longer than that..

LGA-XNA is blocked at 3:19/XNA-LGA at 3:02
LAX-XNA is blocked at 3:08/XNA-LAX at 3:26
DFW-NAS is blocked at 3:07/NAS-DFW at 3:39
ORD-NAS is blocked at 3:17/NAS-ORD at 3:29
DFW-ROC is blocked at 3:09/ROC-DFW at 3:39

And the winner...
DFW-SYR is blocked at 3:12/SYR-DFW at 3:46

Those are all CRJ-700 routes. The longest ERJ routes are Miami's four Ohio routes (CLE, CMH, DAY, and CVG) and Pittsburgh, blocked between 2:52 and 3:02.

[Edited 2005-08-30 05:35:48]
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:44 pm

MAH-LGA-XNA is not an CRJ-700...in fact, LGA-XNA is an ERJ-135.
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:52 pm

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 14):
Get your head out of the North American aviation map and look at routes within regions like China and Asia in general.

WhiteHatter pull your head out of your world atlas!! Asia isn't a region, it's a continent, a very large one I might add which is comprised of several regions!!!
 
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:57 pm

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 14):
Get your head out of the North American aviation map and look at routes within regions like China and Asia in general.

The travel market in Eastern Asia is so large that their are entire countries (South Korea for example) that have never had a regional jet fly into the country. Only in Hong Kong, for example, can Cathay Pacific call an Airbus A-321 a "regional jet" with a straight face...
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:57 pm

I would limit myself to 2 hours tops on a RJ.

I was on AA's EMB-145 from LGA to PTL (Portland, Maine) and noticed the plane was rather small inside. However from LGA pushback to landing in Portland, Maine was only 45 mins!

No problems and I had a hot blonde business woman sitting next to me Big grin

If that was the same case, make it 3 hours on a RJ  Wink
 
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:00 pm

Quoting 777WT (Reply 35):
PTL (Portland, Maine)

I suppose you mean PWM.

For what it is worth, American Airlines/Eagle no longer serves PWM at all...
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:15 pm

Quoting SHUPirate1 (Reply 32):
MAH-LGA-XNA is not an CRJ-700...in fact, LGA-XNA is an ERJ-135.

Correct, forgot about that. All three flights are ERJ-135s.
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:26 pm

How about Air Canada's flights from Houston to Calgary?

CRJ700 approximately 4 hours and 14 minutes!

Just a short hop... 1,747 Miles!
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:40 pm

MKE to BDL..skyway 328Jet....It'll feel like 4hrs especially going west to Milwaukee. 328J pilots go crazy when they hit the magic ground speed of 400kts (on a good day) otherwise they'll be crawling along at 380kts.

And with respect to the thread title: If an RJ is built to fly 4hrs, they will use it.

[Edited 2005-08-30 06:42:27]
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:33 pm

Here are some details on Eagle, with some point-to-point that isn't very obvious.

ERJ 135 flying:
RDU-AUS (2 rts daily) 1161 miles 3hr 10min
Frequent weight restriction and sometimes fuel stops if the headwind is too bad.
LGA-XNA (2-3 rts) 1147 miles 3hr 7min longest schedule

CRJ 700
NAS-ORD 1311 miles 3hr 23mins one RT daily
NAS-DFW Not sure on details because the service was just suspended last week, because it's a seasonal run. It was running on weekdays, replaced by an AA S80 on weekends. It won't run again until December. Distance is in the 1200 range I think.
DFW-NAS are/were over land via the FL panhandle as Eagle's CRJ 700s are not overwater certified.

DFW-SBA 1315 miles 3hr 18mins one RT daily.

I believe these are Eagle's longest routes.

Also, I don't have the details but we run up to about 2hr 50min on SJU-POS with SJU-SLU, GND all in the 2hr 30min range with ATR-72s.
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:36 pm

RJ flying is fine, you get the same amount of room as the big jets as long as you are not flying the CRJ200.
 
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:43 pm

Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 41):
RJ flying is fine, you get the same amount of room as the big jets as long as you are not flying the CRJ200.

I can't stand the CRJ200 either. The windows are so low that the cabin is dark and I get a crick in my neck, since the top of the window is below my shoulder.

A friend who is an FO for Pinnacle (NW Airlink) told me that the reason the windows are so low is because Canadar/Bombardier saved some time and money on certification by using the existing certification for the Challenger 601. What they did was raise the floor about 4 inches to provide adequate width. Raising the floor effectively lowers the windows.
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:48 pm

Quoting DFW13L (Reply 42):
The windows are so low that the cabin is dark

I agree, Skywest especially has a dark cabin because of their dark leather seats. This doesn't help the atmosphere look spacious in the cabin at all. They should be using light colors on the CRJ200.
 
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:08 pm

Quoting SHUPirate1 (Reply 36):
Quoting 777WT (Reply 35):
PTL (Portland, Maine)

I suppose you mean PWM.

For what it is worth, American Airlines/Eagle no longer serves PWM at all...

My bad, it's PWM.

It was close to $400 one way, and that was in 2003.
 
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:49 pm

There's a whopping total of ten RJs in Japan (increases to 12 by end of this year).
Zero in South Korea, Taiwan, Philippines, Malaysia, Singapore & Indonesia.
One or two on Hong Kong.
Two in Thailand.
About ten to twenty in China in all.

Sounds like RJs are pretty much confined to Europe and in particular North America. Development of RJs will be minimal in Asia because of populations of scale. China is about the only place that could see some RJs because of smaller communities in the remote areas, but these areas tend to be poorer areas. Those poorer people will go by ground-transportation rather than spend it on an expensive RJ ride.
 
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:10 pm

Quoting DFW13L (Reply 40):
ERJ 135 flying:
RDU-AUS

Not to split hairs, but Raleigh-Austin is actually run with the ERJ-140, not the ERJ-135.
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:39 pm

Does AC's Jazz have inflight service like meals or snacks?

It sounds like it can work from the routes everyone has mentioned but I feel they need to upgrade the service a little like AC's Jazz has done and UAX as WEll DLX has done too.
 
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:48 pm

What about UAX LAX-SAT and used to be SFO-AUS?
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RE: Would An Airline Fly An RJ Over 4 Hours?

Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:26 pm

DL does a DTW-SLC flight on a E70, 4hrs each way I think. I wanted to go from MHT-DTW-SLC-ONT, but the price was a bit over my budget, so i'm probably gonna go MHT-CVG-ATL-ONT. I chose the MHT-CVG-ATL sectors becuase they are on a 732, and a M90

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