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Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:33 pm

Hi Guys,

I managed to get the first shot of Air Canada Jazz's Fin 710 in the Star Alliance colour scheme accepted last night. Yes, the rumour has been (finally!) confirmed.

My question is this: why would a Jazz plane be painted into Star Alliance colours even when not a part of the mainline fleet? Do other RJ's in the Star network also get painted into this livery?
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RE: Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:44 pm

Quoting Cruiser (Thread starter):
My question is this: why would a Jazz plane be painted into Star Alliance colours even when not a part of the mainline fleet? Do other RJ's in the Star network also get painted into this livery?

Well, the airline is called AIR CANADA JAZZ, so most people regard it as a part of AC, which it rightfully is - so I think it is appropriate to include it in Star colours and titles.

LH Cityline also has a CRJ701 in Star painting, as LHC is more than just a regional affiliate of LH - it is a part of LH.

Has anyone here flown the Jazz - 705s? I'm dying to see more pictures and read trip reports...
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RE: Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:28 pm

AC Jazz is considered part of the Star Alliance under the ACE umbrella. Many *A carriers codeshare on Jazz flights.
 
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RE: Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:59 pm

usairways express carrier PSA has a crj 700 painted in the new colors
 
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RE: Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:30 pm

Quoting Jayspilot (Reply 3):
usairways express carrier PSA has a crj 700 painted in the new colors

They now have an Emb-170 that belongs to Republic Airlines.  banghead 

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RE: Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:53 am

For some reason, I thought that with their IPO, they would no longer be under the umbrella of ACE. However, after doing some research, this is simply not the case.


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RE: Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:59 am

Quoting Cruiser (Reply 5):
For some reason, I thought that with their IPO, they would no longer be under the umbrella of ACE. However, after doing some research, this is simply not the case.

The jazz IPO has yet to take place, and ACE will still hold majority control after it does take place. The IPO is not being done to rid ACE of Jazz but rather to enhance the value of ACE. As with Aeroplan, Jazz will have a market value separate from all the other parts of ACE. Other units will likely be going this route in the future as well (Tech Ops, Cargo)
 
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RE: Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:35 am

Quoting Accargo (Reply 6):
The jazz IPO has yet to take place, and ACE will still hold majority control after it does take place. The IPO is not being done to rid ACE of Jazz but rather to enhance the value of ACE. As with Aeroplan, Jazz will have a market value separate from all the other parts of ACE. Other units will likely be going this route in the future as well (Tech Ops, Cargo)

What is the timeline for that offering? This is a great way for ACE to gain some value. How many entities is AC expected to offer?

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RE: Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:44 am

Quoting Cruiser (Thread starter):
My question is this: why would a Jazz plane be painted into Star Alliance colours even when not a part of the mainline fleet? Do other RJ's in the Star network also get painted into this livery?

Yes, this one for instance.

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RE: Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:42 am

Sorry for the dumb question, but was is IPO? Is ACE the Air Canada Parent company? Thanx.

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RE: Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:03 am

Quoting Cruiser (Reply 7):
What is the timeline for that offering?

I haven't seen any confirmed dates as yet.

Quoting Cgagn (Reply 9):
Sorry for the dumb question, but was is IPO? Is ACE the Air Canada Parent company?

IPO is Initial Public Offering (of shares). ACE will offer a certain percentage of shares to the public (less than 49%) and remain in control.
ACE is Air Canada Enterprises, which is the corporation created as Air Canada exited bankruptcy protection last year. It comprises all the parts of the old AC (Aeroplan, ACTS, Cargo, Ramp Operations, Jazz, Sales, Jetz, etc.)
 
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RE: Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:01 am

Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 8):
Yes, this one for instance.

Thanks a lot! I was just wondering. Anyways, I guess I should have used the search function as well.  Wink

Where are most of these CRJ-705's now being used?

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RE: Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:04 am

Quoting Cruiser (Reply 11):
Where are most of these CRJ-705's now being used

Some of the flying from YYZ includes Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec, Thunder Bay, and with the upcoming schedule change to Saskatoon, Regina, Halifax and St. John's; transborder there's Dallas, Houston, Newark, Philadelphia, as well as some Chicago, LaGuardia, Atlanta & Boston. From Montreal & Ottawa to Winnipeg; and from Calgary to Vancouver, Winnipeg, Regina & Houston. There could be more...I'm just going from memory....  Confused

With regard to the Star Alliance paint scheme, Jazz is *required* to maintain a specific number of aircraft in the Star Alliance colours, as are all Star members.
 
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RE: Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:57 pm

Most of the CRJ-705's are operating Domestic services within Canada.

Tomorrow (Sept 7) Only 3 U.S. destinations are being operated with the CRJ-705 YYZ-IAH-YYZ / YYZ-DFW-YYZ and YYC-IAH-YYC

Other routes

YYZ-YQB/YQT/YOW
YWG-YUL/YOW
YEG-YWG

I imagine future U.S. Destinations will op with the type when ACJ takes delivery of the B773/B787 ..lol...  bigthumbsup   cheeky  But that may be wayyyyy down the line.....
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RE: Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:06 pm

Quoting TIMEAIR (Reply 13):
I imagine future U.S. Destinations will op with the type when ACJ takes delivery of the B773/B787 ..lol... But that may be wayyyyy down the line.....

Personally, I don't think that ACJ will ever get the 773 or the 787. Simply too large for a regional airline  Wink

The mainline on the other hand, of course they will. It is only a matter of time. I just hope we hear some more on this subject in the near future.

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RE: Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:25 am

I totally agree with ya cruiser, just a matter of time...wud be cool to see them in Canada doing some transcon stuff..
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RE: Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:33 am

Why would they be downsizing to the 705's from the 319 and 320 from YYT??
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RE: Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:40 am

Quoting CGOJZ (Reply 12):
With regard to the Star Alliance paint scheme, Jazz is *required* to maintain a specific number of aircraft in the Star Alliance colours, as are all Star members.

Anyone have any more details on this, such as how many aircraft are required to be in the scheme? I notice Singapore keep their own tail logo. Why is that?

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RE: Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:11 am

Quoting TIMEAIR (Reply 13):
YYZ-DFW-YYZ

Eff: Oct,1st YYZ-DFW-YYZ will become a E-175 Route.
 
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RE: Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:31 am

Quoting Cgagn (Reply 17):
Anyone have any more details on this, such as how many aircraft are required to be in the scheme?

AC has at least one A340, 2 B767's, 2 ACJ CRJ's in the livery. Am I missing anymore?
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RE: Air Canada Jazz CRJ In Star Alliance Livery

Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:25 pm

Quoting Cruiser (Reply 19):
AC has at least one A340, 2 B767's, 2 ACJ CRJ's in the livery. Am I missing anymore?

They have 2 A343s - C-FDRO and C-FYLD.

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