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Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:04 pm

I read yesterday a brief news stating that, among other European means, an Airbus Beluga with 10 t of relief supplies was awaiting US Gvt. clearance to fly today to the cyclone devastated area.
10t is about the payload of the Beluga to fly directly to the Southern States from Europe.
Has anybody got more info on that?
 
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Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:25 pm

No info but all help is greatly appreciated  Smile

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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:23 am

The Beluga is now reported to have taken off this afternoon from Toulouse heading towards the UK to get some more supplies.
It will then fly to Alabama, not Louisiana.
 
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:35 am

Quoting Breiz (Reply 2):
The Beluga is now reported to have taken off this afternoon from Toulouse heading towards the UK to get some more supplies.
It will then fly to Alabama, not Louisiana.

Flight Number? Tracking info?
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:38 am

Interesting info.

Mobile, Alabama seems to be the entry point for outside aid.
After a specific request, the UK Ministry Of Defence is sending an initial 500,000 military ration packs, with if requested, options on up to 4 million others.
The first batch went by a chartered DC-8-62F to Mobile, as many RAF assets are away on deployment, but as that situation improves RAF aircraft should become available.

At least two German AF A310 aid flights have also gone to Mobile.

French aid has a shorter trip, from French Caribbean territories.

The Dutch had a naval frigate in the general area, it, with stores and it's helicopters, is to be used.
There will of course be others I've not mentioned.

While clearly any A-Net members in the Mobile area, will probably have the effects of Katrina foremost on their minds, either directly or in perhaps helping the relief, if you get the chance, check out Mobile.
 
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:49 am

The Beluga will take supplies to the devastated area and will bring water  wink .
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:19 am

In addition France was very supportive to ship European oil to the US, even more than great britain.

The Beluga took off today.
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:00 am

Thus far I haven't seen evidence that Bangor, Maine is serving as a tech stop for any flights. But I expect that BGR will see a few flights that just can't make Mobile nonstop from wherever they are departing from.

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Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:00 pm

I heard Castro offered 1100 doctors and nurses, and about 600 tonnes of medical supplies. Any idea whether the US gov will swallow its pride and accept - for the good of those suffering down south? If the US accepts you might see Castro's own private brand new Ilyushin make some trips acrros the Carribean, wouldn't that be nice!

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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:02 pm

Quoting Breiz (Thread starter):
10t is about the payload of the Beluga to fly directly to the Southern States from Europe.



Quoting FCKC (Reply 5):
The Beluga will carry 30t of supplies.

Would it not be better and more fuel efficient to use an AF 744ERF? You could take more supplies to the people and go faster because you have less drag.

Anyone know when it gets in?
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:33 pm

I hope all of you don't use the opions of one or two Americans to reach a conclusion about us! Some of us are greatful for any help we can get. I'm all the way up here in Alaska and am still grateful with any aid that can be given to the folks down in the affected areas. And, yes, Alaska is part of the USA.... I get that question a lot.
 
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:12 pm

No AS907 - I know full well and very personally that these idiots are not all of America. But unfortunately it is more than 1 or 2, and some of them are close to the White House. The support I am trying to give to the USA is possible because I am very much aware of the generosity of spirit that I like to think characterises your country better.
 
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:11 pm

I started this thread considering that it would be of interest to the US members to know that a plane never seen before in the States was to come shortly.
I thought this is what A-net is about: planes.

Now if some of you want to turn it into a political arena, here are some facts for them to consider:
-the timing and magnitude of the foreign aid to katrina's victims is subject to US government consent and clearance,
- the US government has finally recognized, a good week into the disaster, that trivial things such as water, blankets, tents, toilets,... were in short supply, even for the most powerful and rich country in the world,
- French supplies have been stand-by for days awaiting US clearance,
- The use of the Beluga is donated by Airbus to the relief effort, in the same way that Air Canada put an A321 at disposal (may be looked at as a publicity stunt, but the Beluga was used before in natural disaster relief effort),
- the French assistance, to talk only about this European country, consists also in military planes flying from the French Caribbean Islands and in navy boats sailing to Louisiana to provide shelter and medical personnel.

I shall not enter the political debate.
I only hope that some of you were interested to know that the Beluga is coming.
 
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:17 pm

Quoting AS907 (Reply 33):
I hope all of you don't use the opions of one or two Americans to reach a conclusion about us

Don't worry, there is this sort of people everywhere in the world (or at least in the industrialized world), and they are the ones who generalize...

Anyway, the choice of the Beluga instead of a 747 freighter may be due to the shape or volume of the cargo transported ?
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:24 pm

Quoting GDB (Reply 4):
At least two German AF A310 aid flights have also gone to Mobile.

At least one of these flights went to Pensacola and started without explicit government clearance. GAF had stationed some staff and equipment for training purposes at Pensacola for years. Maybe that enabled them to do it without asking. It brought about 20 tons of military ration packs which were directly unloaded from the A310 onto CH-53s and flown directly to New Orleans according to a US military Officer. It was shown on German TV ...

Quoting YOWza (Reply 23):
I heard Castro offered 1100 doctors and nurses, and about 600 tons of medical supplies. Any idea whether the US gov will swallow its pride and accept - for the good of those suffering down south?

Has nothing to with pride ... The US have enough medical staff and supplies but apparently "... it was not possible to bring it into the area quickly enough". Accepting the Cuban offer is not especially necessary anymore, but would cause numerous political problems for the president stating from his point of view.

The question is whether this offer of help was intended to be a real humanitarian relief effort or just intended to provoke Bush in his situation. The same goes for Venezuela as Chavez couldn't resist to flavor his help offerings with some "accompanying commentary".
 
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:42 pm

Quoting Eirjet (Reply 43):
Now back to the origional thread, has the Beluga flown to the US before?
Eirjet

I was wrong to write that this trip would be the first in the US.
A Beluga went to Fairbanks (Alaska) to deliver EH-101 helicopter(s) and five times to Waco (Texas) in 2002 to deliver German telescope parts.

In addition a beluga went to Japan (priceless paintings), Australia (helicopters), French Guiana (satellites), Turkey, Algeria and Indonesia (relief supplies).

The Beluga left Toulouse this Wednesday morning (French time) en route for Mobile (Alabama).
 
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:38 pm

I could've sworn I was in the Civil-Av Forum...
 
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:44 pm

Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 17):
I could've sworn I was in the Civil-Av Forum...

In case you missed it, the Beluga is a civil aircraft  Wink
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:51 pm

I think its great that other countries are offering to help, thats totally Awesome!!!
However, our sometimes (mostly) "OUT TO LUNCH" Govt. should all be lined up to be Stooge slapped and HARD for all the dickering around when it came to getting the ball rolling in helping these people!!!! There is just NO EXCUSE!!!!
I do believe that borders from one country to another mean nothing when something like this happens, AND not just in the US!!!

God is not respector of persons....NOR SHOULD WE BE!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:08 pm

Quoting YOWza (Reply 9):
I heard Castro offered 1100 doctors and nurses, and about 600 tonnes of medical supplies. Any idea whether the US gov will swallow its pride and accept - for the good of those suffering down south? If the US accepts you might see Castro's own private brand new Ilyushin make some trips acrros the Carribean, wouldn't that be nice!

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Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:23 pm



"The giant Airbus 'Beluga' aircraft picked up disaster relief supplies donated by the UK government at its north Wales plant."

I guess that is Hawarden Airport then.
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:24 pm

Here is the latest on the subject of the Airbus Beluga:

http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre...9_07_05_beluga_katrina_relief.html
 
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:27 pm

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 18):

In case you missed it, the Beluga is a civil aircraft Wink

It appears as though the rash of off topic posts were removed, perhaps you opened the tread too late
 
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:40 pm

Quoting Breiz (Reply 13):
I shall not enter the political debate.

However, I shall make statements like:

"the US government has finally recognized, a good week into the disaster, that trivial things such as water, blankets, tents, toilets,... were in short supply, even for the most powerful and rich country in the world"
 
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:11 pm

Quoting YOWza (Reply 9):
If the US accepts you might see Castro's own private brand new Ilyushin make some trips acrros the Carribean, wouldn't that be nice!

Seeing as Cubana's haven't been delivered yet, and all IL-96s are currently grounded, this doesn't seem very likely!  wink 
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:20 am

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 8):
Maine is serving as a tech stop for any flights. But I expect that BGR

Beluga number 2 touched down at LPLA (TER - Lajes Azores) at 10:30 AM local time. Is currently enroute to US to assist in the hurricane relief. Incredible to see it land only 150 feet from you!!! Wow that was exciting
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:38 am

Not so surprising, since Airbus has always used spare Beluga capacity for non Airbus related charters.

Any AN-124's deployed yet?
Usually see them in disaster relief missions.
 
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:47 am

Wasn't there any chance to use the new A380 to transport stuff? Granted, it is not certified but use the flight as a test flight. I guess, with all of the equipment onboard there would not be any room for supplies.
 
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:59 am

Now if we can just get teh AN-225 to pay a visit, that would be nice.

I'm glad for the international support. It's sad that it takes a tragedy to unite the world.

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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:04 am

What airport in Mobile are they using - BFM or MOB?

Thanks.

Also, any updates on the relief flights to Little Rock AFB?
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:26 am

Quoting BNAflyer78 (Reply 31):
What airport in Mobile are they using - BFM or MOB?

According to Airbus, that will be Brookley Field.
 
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:32 am

Quoting Breiz (Reply 32):
According to Airbus, that will be Brookley Field.

Not surprising as they are getting ready to build their new engineering facility there.
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:41 am

Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 33):
Quoting Breiz (Reply 32):
According to Airbus, that will be Brookley Field.


Not surprising as they are getting ready to build their new engineering facility there.

I understand that it is the US authorities which decide where the relief supplies are to be delivered.
 
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:37 am

Quoting BNAflyer78 (Reply 31):
Also, any updates on the relief flights to Little Rock AFB?

2 Flights from Gander today to LRF (LITTLE ROCK AFB, JACKSONVILLE AR):


VDA4746 A124 CYQX 19:44 KLRF 00:28
VDA4744 A124 CYQX 20:14 KLRF 00:56

One departed to IAH, and the other to EWR.

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[Edited 2005-09-07 22:43:52]
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:19 am

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 25):
Seeing as Cubana's haven't been delivered yet, and all IL-96s are currently grounded, this doesn't seem very likely!

I knew the 96s were grounded but I figured they might make an exception. Mind you I thought Cubana had already taken delivery. hmm

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Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:23 am

I was one to always ask why we give so much and never get anything in return. Could the Beluga stop by Florida so I can use some of that water to wash my foot down with. To all of you and your countries that are helping our family in the United States devestated by Katrina, Thank you.
 
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:36 pm

Quoting UPS Pilot (Reply 37):
To all of you and your countries that are helping our family in the United States devestated by Katrina, Thank you.

You are more than welcome!
Keep the spirit high. Your country will make it as it always does.
 
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:55 am

Quoting GDB (Reply 27):
Any AN-124's deployed yet?
Usually see them in disaster relief missions

Later tonight an AN124 will arrive at EIN to be loaded with 3 pumps, a truck and some specialists. I do not know when it will arrive in the US, or which airport it will go to.
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:30 am

Well it has been reported one two news stations one in Mobile and the other in Pensacola. That the Beluga landed today at Mobile Downtown Airport Brookley Field (BFM) shortly after 9am CST from Toulouse, France with 22 tons of relief supplies, from the French and German governments. Six creates in all.

Also yesterday on my local news station they showed a German AF A310 at Pensacola NAS...DANKE!
 
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:06 am

Whilst not wanting to in any way minimize or trivialize the terrible suffering caused by Katrina, this article 'reviews' the UK military ration packs sent to the US, when we talk of 'aid' and 'supplies' being flown in, and in this thread, by what aircraft, it may be of interest to see in detail what they actually are;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/magazine/4221838.stm
 
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:55 am

Mexico is sending aid with trucks to US.
From New Yorqatar to Califarbia...
 
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Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:32 am

I saw the Beluga on tonight's CBS News hauling in a load.....maybe our government doesn't understand a lot but folks around here know who their friends are and the help will be appreciated for many years....

The most heartening thing here is seeing ordinary people pitching in, cleaning out their bank accounts, buying supplies and renting trucks and heading south....
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:29 am

About four years ago a NW A320 was involved in a an accident at Las Vegas where it accidently was left unattended and rolled backwards across the ramp down an embankment and into a ditch causing severe damage to the tail section and elevators...

Airbus set up a temporary tent hangar to house the A320 which kept it completely inside away from curious eyes and cameras and repaired it. At that time the Beluga was flown in with a replacement tail and elevators, so to answer the above question, this is not the first visit of a Beluga to the US.
 
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:32 am

Quoting KC" class=quote target=_blank>FCKC (Reply 5):
The Beluga will carry 30t of supplies.

Not on a trans-atlantic range. The Beluga is a great outsized cargo airplane, but, it doesn't have great legs (range).

Is Aibus sending the Beluga to Mobil because that is the site of the future Airbus (US) factory (if the ever build the KC-330)?

It would seem to me they could have flown the 66,000lbs non-stop on an A-340-300, or A-330-300.
 
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:40 am

Nice picture: "Relief supplies for victims of Hurricane Katrina are unloaded from the Beluga at Alabama’s Brookley Airfield."

http://www.eads.net/xml/content/OF00000000400004/7/65/40919657.jpg
 
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Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:45 am

Beluga did customs/technical stop this morning in BUF. Here for 3 hours or so...
 
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:35 am

I joined the thread late but just want to say we will take help from where ever we can get it and thanks to all who donate or give aid to help those recover from this disaster.

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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:42 pm

This a video of the Beluga landing in Mobile over at Brookley - BFM from our local CBS affiliate.

Copy and paste:
mms://mgs.mgnetwork.com/wkrg/video/Beluga.wmv
 
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RE: Airbus Beluga To Louisiana?

Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:49 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 45):
Is Aibus sending the Beluga to Mobil because that is the site of the future Airbus (US) factory (if the ever build the KC-330)?

The point of landing in the US was chosen by the US authorities, not Airbus.
Airbus donated aircraft and crew time to fly relief supplies provided by the British and the French gvts.

Quoting Crownvic (Reply 44):
Airbus set up a temporary tent hangar to house the A320 which kept it completely inside away from curious eyes and cameras and repaired it. At that time the Beluga was flown in with a replacement tail and elevators, so to answer the above question, this is not the first visit of a Beluga to the US.

Thank you for the information, Crownvic, I had missed that one.
And this present visit is at least number four (Las Vegas, Fairbanks, Waco before Mobile)

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