khenleydia
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Flying Outside The USA...

Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:04 pm

How do you know that you are no longer flying under US regulations? When you are on a flight where a pax on a ERJ-135 gets up and offers all other 10-15 people on the plane candy. Even offers it to the FA. After offering it to the FA, he asks if he could offer it to the Flight Crew and she says yes. She opens the unlocked door and lets the pax offer the candy and the Flight Crew takes some also.

Now, it that wasn't enough, as a "Thank You" from the Flight Crew, they offer the pax the chance to jump seat for the landing.

I'm not kinding and this isn't made up. On my recent flight from JNB to NLA on South African Airlink, this happened. I'm not sure anyone on the plane thought it was odd, except for me. Considering at least that I was the only American on the plane. The others were either from Europe or South Africa. All I know is that they preferred to speak something other than English, but could speak English.

Anyway, just figured that I would share that little story. I must say, I was wishing that I had offered the candy!!

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Thomas_Jaeger
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RE: Flying Outside The USA...

Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:14 pm

On lots of regional aircraft in Europe, cockpit doors are still open during the entire flight as well, it is rarely seen on bigger aircraft now but a lot of regionals still have open cockpit doors for at least part of the flights.
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khenleydia
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RE: Flying Outside The USA...

Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:18 pm

Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 1):
On lots of regional aircraft in Europe, cockpit doors are still open during the entire flight as well, it is rarely seen on bigger aircraft now but a lot of regionals still have open cockpit doors for at least part of the flights.

How often do pax get to get into the flight deck though? Maybe this isn't new to some people, but certainly not something I have seen happen for a LONG time!

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HT
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RE: Flying Outside The USA...

Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:19 pm

Quoting KhenleyDIA (Thread starter):
All I know is that they preferred to speak something other than English

Might this language have been Afrikaans, basically a South African dialect of the Dutch language ?
Just for characterization, no harm intended: This language would have included a lot of "chhhrr"-sounds coming from the throat.
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khenleydia
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RE: Flying Outside The USA...

Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:46 pm

Quoting HT (Reply 3):
Might this language have been Afrikaans, basically a South African dialect of the Dutch language ?

I don't believe so, but then again I can't say for sure.

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Shenzhen
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RE: Flying Outside The USA...

Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:49 pm

Quoting KhenleyDIA (Thread starter):
How do you know that you are no longer flying under US regulations?

When you look at the registration number and it doesn't start with an "N" and you are outside US airspace.

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geoffm
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RE: Flying Outside The USA...

Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:15 pm

Quoting KhenleyDIA (Thread starter):
She opens the unlocked door and lets the pax offer the candy and the Flight Crew takes some also.

Isn't that a bit risky? What if the person had poisoned the sweets?

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salso
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RE: Flying Outside The USA...

Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:26 pm

I'm an FA for Adria Airways and often, even on our A320's, passengers (if the flight isn't too full) are still let into the cockpit to take a picture or two. Of course, escorted by an FA and only one at a time. Compared to A LOT of other carriers, this is still a unike feature.
 
pilatusguy
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RE: Flying Outside The USA...

Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:28 am

Quoting HT (Reply 3):
This language would have included a lot of "chhhrr"-sounds coming from the throat

you're not referring to swiss german?  Big grin
 
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RE: Flying Outside The USA...

Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:36 am

Quoting KhenleyDIA (Reply 2):
How often do pax get to get into the flight deck though?

On European regional carriers? Everytime I ask. All you have to do is ask.

[Edited 2005-09-07 17:37:28]
 
khenleydia
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RE: Flying Outside The USA...

Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:40 am

Quoting Airbazar (Reply 9):
On European regional carriers? Everytime I ask. All you have to do is ask.

How about getting to fly in the jump seat for landing? If asking is all it takes, I am ALL over that! Hey, I would even pay them something to do that!!  Smile

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HT
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RE: Flying Outside The USA...

Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:43 am

Quoting Pilatusguy (Reply 8):
Quoting HT (Reply 3):
This language would have included a lot of "chhhrr"-sounds coming from the throat

you're not referring to swiss german?

Naah, "Schwietzerduetsch" really does sound different from the Dutch language , with Dutch being much more demanding on the (untrained) throat ...
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RE: Flying Outside The USA...

Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:19 am

Quoting Shenzhen (Reply 5):
When you look at the registration number and it doesn't start with an "N" and you are outside US airspace.

Don't need the last bit "and outside US airspace". If its not an "N" your not under US regulations as soon as you are on board.

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