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ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:12 am

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We now have three 737-300 aircraft in maintenance, and plan to pick up a fourth one before the end of the month. All three of the classic 737s are being reconfigured and repainted. And we have agreed to swap 4 of our 757-300 aircraft with Continental Airlines in return for 4 of their 737-700 aircraft. We will pick up two of the Continental aircraft this fall, and two after the first of the year, but we don't give up all the 757s until the first quarter of next year so we can keep them in service for our military.
 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:20 am

There were rumors all Summer of ATA trading their 4 remaning 757-300s to CO in exchange for 14 CO 737-700s, this sounds much more reasonable for both carriers.
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:26 am

Yes I agree I will miss the 753 in ATA colours. But now we have it confirmed that this is going to happen!
 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:30 am

Quoting STT757

"4 x B757-300's for 14 xB737-700's"

Now that's a GREAT deal ....
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:33 am

LOL some used car dealer I mean airplane dealer is happy! It seems a litle of to me especially seeing the demand for 757's at the moment.
 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:33 am

It's sad to read about a carrier in its death throes like this.
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:37 am

If you want to make some money, buy an airfield, large one, out in the AZ desert.

They'll be knocking on your door in droves soon Sad
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:39 am

Quoting Tundra767 (Reply 4):
LOL some used car dealer I mean airplane dealer is happy! It seems a litle of to me especially seeing the demand for 757's at the moment.

Dollars to doughnuts this deal was brokered by Boeing.
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:41 am

Wait, I'm confused. Will Continental have to pay a little extra for trading 4 small aircraft for 4 larger aircraft? If not, it seems ATA is getting a bit of a raw deal.

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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:53 am

It would also be hard to find another taker for the 753 as there just are not that many of them about. That affects their resale potential. There are plenty of 752 operators of course, but a 753 would be an oddball for the vast majority of those carriers and create planning issues.

CO already have a fleet of them so they are the natural 'adoptive parent'.
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:57 am

Quoting N328KF (Reply 7):
Dollars to doughnuts this deal was brokered by Boeing.

I think you are right. But this also sounds like an ATA move IMHO they sell them selves short sometimes this look like one of them.
 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:03 am

.. and the AMC fleets shrinks again ...... Has it occured to anyone in ATA that they're cutting of the branch they're sitting on?  worried 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:11 am

interesting they are moving towards an all 737 fleet....wonder if WN has a hand in this?
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:11 am

I have been saying the same thing. I think ATA is cutting there own throat. Its really sad.
 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:04 am

This move will let ATA to save some money (leasing rates) and i belive that i heard somewhere that ATA found a 767 with PW which will be avaible in the begining of the next year, so this will work well with giving 753 up to CO in the next year. As a person which "love" ATA i hope that there is a reason behind all those recent moves.....  innocent 
 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:38 am

This will bring CO's 757-300 fleet up to 21 aircraft.
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:46 am

>> interesting they are moving towards an all 737 fleet....wonder if WN has a hand in this?

They are not moving to an all 737 fleet. They are consolidating their fleet and eliminating their expensive fleet types. The lease rates for some of the 738 and 753 were very expensive, perhaps more expensive than the revenue they were providing, which has promted ATA to reevaluate their fleet assets:

- The 757-200 is still an intergal part of TZ fleet, large numbers of 752 are not likely to be sold/returned.

- In place of 738, TZ has aquired several 733 and are looking at more 737 of various types.

- The 763 and 763ER are being evaluated as a means to further consolidate TZ's fleet. The 767, ideally with RB.211 engines, would integrate well with TZ's 757 fleet and would allow TZ to ditch the aging L1011.
 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:57 am

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 16):
- In place of 738, TZ has aquired several 733 and are looking at more 737 of various types.

When are the 738s leaving the fleet? Last time I checked, they were still in the schedule. Or have some already gone? Any idea where they're going (I know they're owned by a leasing company, but who's the next leasee?)?
 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:02 am

>> When are the 738s leaving the fleet? Last time I checked, they were still in the schedule. Or have some already gone?

As far as I know, the majority of the 738 are staying put at TZ. A few 738 will (or have already been, I'm not sure) be returned to lessors.
 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:23 am

Wonder if CO would consider swapping some of their leased 733s for leased 738s with ATA in the future.

The delay in losing the last 753s makes sense in light of the 763 rumor. TZ could be on the verge of acquiring more 763s, which would be an even swap pax wise for a 753, with better range for military charter work than the 753s.
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:26 pm

Quoting Tundra767 (Thread starter):
And we have agreed to swap 4 of our 757-300 aircraft with Continental Airlines in return for 4 of their 737-700 aircraft. We will pick up two of the Continental aircraft this fall,

I've seen the exit paperwork for 3 of our 700's. Ship numbers 701, 703, and 704.

CO is getting all 12 of TZ's 757-300's. The first one will be in revenue service with CO in a couple of days.



Quoting N328KF (Reply 7):
Dollars to doughnuts this deal was brokered by Boeing.

You are absolutely right. Boeing is brokering this deal.
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:33 pm

I heard the CO 737's were going to WN not TZ...

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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:37 pm

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 16):

- The 763 and 763ER are being evaluated as a means to further consolidate TZ's fleet. The 767, ideally with RB.211 engines, would integrate well with TZ's 757 fleet and would allow TZ to ditch the aging L1011.

Maybe BA would be willing to let go of a few of their RB211 powered 763? I know they were dry-leased to Qantas for a while.
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:38 pm

Quoting COEWR (Reply 21):
I heard the CO 737's were going to WN not TZ...

That's a possibility. All I know is that we are exiting 3 of them.
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:43 pm

Will the swap of TZ's 753s mean a reduction in service to HNL, or to 752s?
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:57 pm

I suspect that you will see more flight out of PHX, like to mexico or SJU. Hawaii flying will see the 737-800 I do not see a reduction in the near future at least not from any of the existing stations. IND-LAX was dropped because of poor future demand and that will result in a redeployment of the assest in another market.
 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:03 pm

Quoting Brons2 (Reply 22):
Maybe BA would be willing to let go of a few of their RB211 powered 763? I know they were dry-leased to Qantas for a while.

Not all were leased to QF, all are RB211 powered, and BA has stated that they will keep their 763ERs for a while.

BTW, does anyone know if these 4 aircraft are the ones TZ owns outright or leased ones?
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:10 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 19):
TZ could be on the verge of acquiring more 763s, which would be an even swap pax wise for a 753

On what planet does the 753 have the same pax load as a 763?
 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:20 pm

He's actually right .. the 763 in ATA configuration is planned to 248 all-Y seats. The 753 holds 247 in all-Y. This was one of the main obstacles in the pilot payscale negotiations. George didn't want to pay higher pilot salaries for an aircraft that only had one more seat.
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:18 am

Quoting LN-MOW (Reply 28):
the 763 in ATA configuration is planned to 248 all-Y seats

Isn't that pretty light? North American, which is the primary military 767-300ER carrier, gets 266 coach plus 12 biz seats, totalling 278 in its 767-300ER, or fully THIRTY more seats than ATA is proposing. Of course, it (aargh!) puts four seats in the center.

DL gets 252 in a 2-class config even with all their galley crap in there, based on 4 rows of domestic F. I would think you could comfortably get one more row and 4 more seats, which yields 11 or 263 in a one-class config modelled on DL's 2-class.

If ATA isn't doing that (and Boeing, of course, claims a truly-frightening one-class capacity of 351, which we all know is insane), it's because they're intentionally-configuring the 763 to please AMC. Had they done that with the 753, they would naturally have had fewer seats, as the thing tends to bulk out in the belly and weight out before all of those seats are full on AMC missions. So a straight comparison between the 753 which was configured for PHH and the 763 which is being configured for AMC really isn't fair. The 753 is a pretty unsatisfactory aircraft for long-range AMC missions, I think (more stops and lots of empty seats loaded with crap).

But I certainly DO stand corrected...on Planet ATA, a 753 has the same number of seats as 763. Scary. Of course, we're not talking about equvalent levels of comfort.
 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:17 am

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 16):
- In place of 738, TZ has aquired several 733 and are looking at more 737 of various types.

I wonder if they'll get some ex. DL/AS/HP 732s which are being retired. I really want to fly on a 732 again. My HP experience on one was awsome.
 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:21 am

Not that I don't beleive any of you, however, I was wondering where this official information was coming from??? Originally CO wasn't going to get all of TZ's 757-300's....why the change and where did you get your information???
 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:34 am

Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 27):
On what planet does the 753 have the same pax load as a 763?

On what planet is it okay to be so rude to make a very minor technical point. The 763 holds a few more pax than a 753 in a 1 class standard seat width config, not enough to warrant such a comment. Depending on how you configure them, the 752 and 762 hold about the same, and the 753 and 763 hold about the same. Not enough difference to get all hufffy about it. My point was that with the intro of a couple of 763s, they would take over for the lost capacity of the 753s on military charters. 73Gs wouldn't supply this kind of needed capacity.

On what planet am I wrong?

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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:57 pm

Quoting Avpilot01 (Reply 31):
Not that I don't beleive any of you, however, I was wondering where this official information was coming from??? Originally CO wasn't going to get all of TZ's 757-300's....why the change and where did you get your information???

The original deal was for CO to take 8 of TZ's 757-300's. But the deal was revised for CO to take all 12 of TZ's aircraft. I've attached some info that might help.

N550TZ (cn 32584/972)
A/C 860 - CO - 757-334 - N73860 - RB211-535E4B - EFF 650
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ATA SEATING CAPACITY 24/192
PHOTOLUMINESCENT FLOOR MOUNTED ESCAPE PATH LIGHTING
AIRCRAFT RVSM CERTIFIED -- COMPLIES BRNAV/RNP
ETOPS.............AIRCRAFT CAT III/LAND 3.................
==================== AIRCRAFT PLACARDS ===================

ATA 757-300 DELIVERS 2006

N551TZ (cn 32585/976)
A/C 861 - CO - 757-334 - N75861 - RB211-535E4B - EFF 651
*********************************************************
ATA SEATING CAPACITY 24/192
GLOW-STRIPS FLOOR MOUNTED ESCAPE PATH LIGHTING
AIRCRAFT RVSM CERTIFIED -- COMPLIES BRNAV/RNP
ETOPS.............AIRCRAFT CAT III/LAND 3................
==================== AIRCRAFT PLACARDS ==================

N552TZ (cn 32586/978)
A/C 862 - CO - 757-334 - N57862 - RB211-535E4B - EFF 652
********************************************************
ATA SEATING CAPACITY 24/192
GLOW-STRIPS FLOOR MOUNTED ESCAPE PATH LIGHTING
AIRCRAFT RVSM CERTIFIED -- COMPLIES BRNAV/RNP
ETOPS.............AIRCRAFT CAT III/LAND 3...............
==================== AIRCRAFT PLACARDS =================

ATA 757-300 DELIVERS 2006

N553TZ (cn 32587/980)
A/C 863 - CO - 757-334 - N57863 - RB211-535E4B - EFF 653
***********************************************************
ATA SEATING CAPACITY 24/192
GLOW-STRIPS FLOOR MOUNTED ESCAPE PATH LIGHTING
AIRCRAFT RVSM CERTIFIED -- COMPLIES BRNAV/RNP
ETOPS.............AIRCRAFT CAT III/LAND 3..................
==================== AIRCRAFT PLACARDS ===================#

ATA 757-300 DELIVERS 1/10/2006

N554TZ (cn 32588/985)
A/C 864 - CO - 757-334 - N57864 - RB211-535E4B - EFF 654
**********************************************************
ATA SEATING CAPACITY 24/192
GLOW-STRIPS FLOOR MOUNTED ESCAPE PATH LIGHTING
AIRCRAFT RVSM CERTIFIED -- COMPLIES BRNAV/RNP
ETOPS.............AIRCRAFT CAT III/LAND 3..................
==================== AIRCRAFT PLACARDS ===================#

ATA 757-300 DELIVERS 9/15/2005

N555TZ (cn 32589/1003)
A/C 865 - CO - 757-334 - N77865 - RB211-535E4B - EFF 655
***********************************************************
ATA SEATING CAPACITY 24/192
GLOW-STRIPS FLOOR MOUNTED ESCAPE PATH LIGHTING
AIRCRAFT RVSM CERTIFIED -- COMPLIES BRNAV/RNP
ETOPS.............AIRCRAFT CAT III/LAND 3..................
==================== AIRCRAFT PLACARDS ===================#

ATA 757-300 DELIVERS 9/1//2005

N557TZ (cn 32591/1007)
A/C 866 - CO - 757-334 - N78866 - RB211-535E4B - EFF 657
***********************************************************
ATA SEATING CAPACITY 24/192
GLOW-STRIPS FLOOR MOUNTED ESCAPE PATH LIGHTING
AIRCRAFT RVSM CERTIFIED -- COMPLIES BRNAV/RNP
ETOPS.............AIRCRAFT CAT III/LAND 3..................
==================== AIRCRAFT PLACARDS ===================#

ATA 757-300 DELIVERS 8/15/2005

N558TZ (cn 32592/1008)
A/C 867 - CO - 757-334 - N77867 - RB211-535E4B - EFF 658
***********************************************************
ATA SEATING CAPACITY 24/192
GLOW-STRIPS FLOOR MOUNTED ESCAPE PATH LIGHTING
AIRCRAFT RVSM CERTIFIED -- COMPLIES BRNAV/RNP
ETOPS.............AIRCRAFT CAT III/LAND 3..................
==================== AIRCRAFT PLACARDS ===================#

ATA 757-300 DELIVERS 8/1/2005

N556TZ (cn 32590/1017)
A/C 868 - CO - 757-334 - N57868 - RB211-535E4B - EFF 656
***********************************************************
ATA SEATING CAPACITY 24/192
GLOW-STRIPS FLOOR MOUNTED ESCAPE PATH LIGHTING
AIRCRAFT RVSM CERTIFIED -- COMPLIES BRNAV/RNP
ETOPS.............AIRCRAFT CAT III/LAND 3..................
==================== AIRCRAFT PLACARDS ===================#


N559TZ (cn 32593/1018)
A/C 869 - CO - 757-334 - N57869 - RB211-535E4B - EFF 659
***********************************************************
ATA SEATING CAPACITY 24/192
GLOW-STRIPS FLOOR MOUNTED ESCAPE PATH LIGHTING
AIRCRAFT RVSM CERTIFIED -- COMPLIES BRNAV/RNP
ETOPS..AIRCRAFT CAT III/LAND 3..EUROPEAN OPS NOT AUTHORIZED
==================== AIRCRAFT PLACARDS ===================#
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N560TZ (cn 33525/1031)
A/C 870 - CO - 757-334 - N57870 - RB211-535E4B - EFF 660
***********************************************************
ATA SEATING CAPACITY 24/192
GLOW-STRIPS FLOOR MOUNTED ESCAPE PATH LIGHTING
AIRCRAFT RVSM CERTIFIED -- COMPLIES BRNAV/RNP
ETOPS.............AIRCRAFT CAT III/LAND 3..................
==================== AIRCRAFT PLACARDS ===================#

ATA 757-300 DELIVERS 2006



N561TZ (cn 33526/1032)
A/C 871 - CO - 757-334 - N77871 - RB211-535E4B - EFF 661
***********************************************************
ATA SEATING CAPACITY 24/192
GLOW-STRIPS FLOOR MOUNTED ESCAPE PATH LIGHTING
AIRCRAFT RVSM CERTIFIED -- COMPLIES BRNAV/RNP
ETOPS.............AIRCRAFT CAT III/LAND 3..................
==================== AIRCRAFT PLACARDS ===================#

ATA 757-300 DELIVERS 2006
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:35 pm

Quoting Avpilot01 (Reply 31):
Not that I don't beleive any of you, however, I was wondering where this official information was coming from??? Originally CO wasn't going to get all of TZ's 757-300's....why the change and where did you get your information???

This came from the ATA employee site. Was released by John Graber V.P.
 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:18 pm

Quoting MX757 (Reply 20):
I've seen the exit paperwork for 3 of our 700's. Ship numbers 701, 703, and 704

Guess which three CO 73G's won't be getting winglets installed ... And guess why Ship 702 won't be the fourth machine going to TZ??  scratchchin 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:54 pm

Quoting IAHcsr (Reply 35):
Guess which three CO 73G's won't be getting winglets installed ... And guess why Ship 702 won't be the fourth machine going to TZ??

Ok, I give up. Why???  scratchchin 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Fri Sep 09, 2005 6:16 pm

702 already has winglets installed...

869 should enter revenue service on 9/11 after arriving into IAH from a mx outstation today...

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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:32 pm

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 37):
869 should enter revenue service on 9/11 after arriving into IAH from a mx outstation today...

That was the plan... I saw a routing for Ship 869 of IAH LAX IAH LAX EWR .. But an hour later it was changed to 'MX IAH' for the 11th. Soooooo.....  boxedin   brokenheart   confused 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:00 pm

CO taking the last of ATA's 753s was expected and discussed for several months - ATA simply does not require the 753s under its new business plan and with the Pleasant Hawaiian contracts gone. The CO-ATA 753/73G swap was also expected, however, under the previous rumors, ATA was to get more than 4 73Gs; the original plan was 8 73Gs for 4 753s. CO can use the 753s on its busy domestic routes and it will not miss the lower capacity 73Gs - while ATA can use the 73Gs for new long thin routes out of Midway to destinations in Mexico and the Carib.

Yes, Boeing was very involved in this transaction and CO got a great deal on the 753s - after all, who else would take them?
 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:32 pm

Quoting IAHcsr (Reply 35):
Guess which three CO 73G's won't be getting winglets installed

I was told downtown that all the 73G's we are giving up already had the winglet mods done.

and just for reference....869 just got out of the paint shop at AMA and should be ready for revenue service this weekend...the FAA had their final check outs at IAH yesterday...
 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:36 pm

What routes is CO currently using the 753s on? I can't seem to find too many in the timetable.
 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:40 am

Quoting COEWR (Reply 40):
I was told downtown that all the 73G's we are giving up already had the winglet mods done.

and just for reference....869 just got out of the paint shop at AMA and should be ready for revenue service this weekend...the FAA had their final check outs at IAH yesterday...

I will take another look when I get to work, but 869 was showing 'BSMX IAH' for the 11th. I'll see if it has changed.

As for the 73Gs, assuming Ships 701,703, and 704 are three of the TZ bound aircraft, these are not winglet equipped.... at least not yet. Perhaps that will change before they go out the door ... as it were ...  goodvibes   optimist 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:44 am

The 753s are on:
IAH-LAX
IAH-MSY (suspended for obvious reasons)
IAH-SEA
IAH-LAS
IAH-MCO
IAH-SAT (some days)
EWR-AUA
EWR-LAS
CLE-LAS

There may be more that I missed--as more TZ 753s come online I assume you'll see them go on routes that have 739s and 752s.

What does CO do with the aircraft that where on MSY routings?
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:13 am

Look for new 753 routes to be added for the winter timetable, note that aircraft allocations on CO's winter timetable are still subject to change and adjustment.

The 753 will show up on the following routes:

EWR-SJU
EWR-SDQ
EWR-AUA
EWR-FLL
EWR-PBI
EWR-MCO
EWR-LAX
EWR-LAX
IAH-FLL
IAH-MCO
IAH-LAX
IAH-LAX
CLE-LAX

and others.
 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:52 am

Quoting IAHcsr (Reply 42):
I will take another look when I get to work, but 869 was showing 'BSMX IAH' for the 11th. I'll see if it has changed.

It will be ready for its run tomorrow. All the final work will be finished tonight.

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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:58 am

I know CLE-SEA had the 753 during the peak summer months last year, and I could have sworn I saw it on the timetable earlier this year as well. True?
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:06 pm

Quoting COEWR (Reply 45):
It will be ready for its run tomorrow. All the final work will be finished tonight.

I hope so...  crossfingers 
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RE: ATA To Swap 4 753 For 4 73G's

Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:18 pm

Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 41):
As for the 73Gs, assuming Ships 701,703, and 704 are three of the TZ bound aircraft, these are not winglet equipped.... at least not yet. Perhaps that will change before they go out the door ... as it were ...

No they are going "as is" to TZ. MCO is installing the on the 700's and they were taken off the schedule to have winglets installed.
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