CRJ900
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Crew Rests On Charter Carriers?

Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:40 pm

We all know that aircraft flying long-haul scheduled services with the legacy carriers have various types of crew rest facilities for both pilotes and cabin crew.

But do crews on long-haul charter flights have this "perk" too?

I'm thinking of the 757s, 767s, 310s and 330s flown by Air Transat, MYT, Excel, Monarch and all the others.

When looking at their seat maps the aircraft are packed solid with seats, with a few lavs and galleys squeezed in whereever possible. Are some of the seats reserved for crew rest purposes or do crews have to make do with a jumpseat for a few minutes?

I have heard that working for charter companies is harder than flying for the big names, but 1000s are still applying for jobs there, so it can't be that bad after all... or?
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azstar
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RE: Crew Rests On Charter Carriers?

Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:47 pm

I've wondered about the same thing. Once I flew from Paris to San Francisco on a 747 chartered by UTA during one of its weekly pilots strikes. The aircraft was operated by Orion Int'l. The flight came from SF to Paris, was on the ground about two hours, and flew back with a full ship. It landed in MSP for fuel at about 2 AM (local time). Do you think they carried an extra crew on board for the SFO to PAR sector?
 
Tod
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RE: Crew Rests On Charter Carriers?

Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:12 am

Most (if not all) 744 have a crew rest above the door 5 lav complex.
Some have a flight deck crew rest on the right side just aft of the flight deck.
Corsair does not have the flight deck crew rest, but does have the door 5 crew rest. Some operators also curtain off a row of seats.

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RE: Crew Rests On Charter Carriers?

Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:33 am

At Corsair the flight deck crew rest is just at the top of the stairs linking the main deck to the U/D. It is a lie-flat bed, there is also a PTV.
 
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RE: Crew Rests On Charter Carriers?

Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:45 am

Corsairf/a,

Thanks for the correction, I forgot about the converted u/d closet space.
Great hide-out spot!

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CRJ900
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RE: Crew Rests On Charter Carriers?

Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:30 am

The 744 is obviously a great aircraft for crews, a pity only a few charter carriers fly them.

But how about the 767s and 330s flying Europe-Caribbean charters. What are they like to work (and rest) on...?
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RE: Crew Rests On Charter Carriers?

Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:35 am

a BA CSD told me that crews hate the older T7s in BA's fleet as they have no real rest area, whereas the 744s have a flight rest behind flight deck, crew rest at back and the CSD's office below the stairs. So it's not just charter!
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Tod
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RE: Crew Rests On Charter Carriers?

Fri Sep 09, 2005 6:53 am

Quoting BA380 (Reply 6):
BA CSD told me that crews hate the older T7s in BA's fleet as they have no real rest area, whereas the 744s have a flight rest behind flight deck, crew rest at back and the CSD's office below the stairs.

Some of the BA 777 have a Flight Structures brand door 3 overhead crewrest that's pretty nice. About half of the BA 744 fleet have an expanded door 5 overhead crew rest that even has it's own lav. That was some fun plumbing to design.

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RE: Crew Rests On Charter Carriers?

Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:15 am

On UK Charter 763s - three places

1) A crew jumpseat in the galley
2) A bar box in the galley taken out of stowage with a pillow on top to sit on
3) An observers seat on the flight deck

We are not allowed to sleep though. Flights are up to 10hrs
 
ren41
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RE: Crew Rests On Charter Carriers?

Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:20 am

The World Airways MD-11 I flew last year had two First Class seats curtained off near the rear of the Y cabin. I was on a pretty short BOS-SJU flight, so they gave those seats to passengers. For a charter airline, World Airways is quite nice. The DC-10 on the way back was very outdated though.

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