bhxdtw
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US Airways 767 Routes

Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:22 am

Do US still have 767's and if so what routes are they on ?
does anyone else think they have the nicest 767 livery around ??
Actually what 767 do you think wears the nicest color scheme

note: This topic is half n half, Im actually really wanting to know if US still have 767's but Im also interested in what people think is the nicest 767 livery around.. so I guess half of this topic should be in general aviation and half in polls etc etc..

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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:28 am

Yes US Airways still has 767s. I know they fly a few domestic routes like CLT-PHL, PHL-MCO, MCO-CLT. I was on one last month from SJU-PHL on an equipment sub (was supposed to be the A330). They also fly many international routes like PHL-SNN, PHL-DUB, PHL-Venice to name a few. Hopefully someone else can come up with a longer list of routes.

As for the livery, I think it looks nice, but they are in desperate need of a paint job. Well, they actually need a lot more than just new paint. The interiors were quite shabby, even in Envoy where I was seated. I honestly think the nicest 767 livery belongs to Hawaiian Airlines. I can't wait to see the 767 in the new US Airways livery.

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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:34 am

Sept:
PHL-MAD
PHL-VCE
PHL-AMS
PHL-SNN
PHL-DUB
PHL-GLA
PHL-FRA
PHL-BCN
PHL-BDA
PHL-CLT
PHL-SJU

Oct:
PHL-MAD
PHL-MUC
PHL-AMS
PHL-CUN
PHL-SJU
CLT-CUN
CLT-SJU(2 daily)
 
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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:37 am

Quoting BHXDTW (Thread starter):
Do US still have 767's and if so what routes are they on ?

Yes, they only operate 200ER's though! They have 10 left in the fleet! They are mainly used on European routes such as MUC, AMS, SNN, DUB... ex PHL and some domestic routes as Kris said! (Looks like Usairways85 beat me to it!  Wink

Quoting BHXDTW (Thread starter):
does anyone else think they have the nicest 767 livery around ??

Yea pretty nice, although not the best, we will se the new sceme on the 200's soon though!

Quoting BHXDTW (Thread starter):
Actually what 767 do you think wears the nicest color scheme

I agree with Kris, Hawaiian Airlines do, also I love JAL's sceme on the 300's!

Rob!

[Edited 2005-09-09 18:38:37]
 
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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:37 am

During the Summer timetable, 767s should be flying these trans-atlantic routes:

PHL-SNN
PHL-DUB
PHL-BCN
PHL-VCE
PHL-GLA
PHL-AMS
PHL-MUC
PHL-FRA (1X 767, 1X A333)

PHL-Bermuda was seeing a 767 for awhile as well. Not sure what CLT has. I beleive PIT has lost all trans-atlantic flying.

SNN, DUB, BCN, VCE, and GLA do not operate in the winter. MAD downgrades from A333 to 767 in the winter.
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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:44 am

Perhaps an ignorant question, but I'm going to pose it anyway:

If all those trans-Atlantic flights are not operated during the winter, where do the planes go? More domestic flights? Latin America?

Regards,

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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:47 am

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 5):
If all those trans-Atlantic flights are not operated during the winter, where do the planes go? More domestic flights? Latin America?

Most of the "big" carriers tend to be oriented east-west (within North America, or North America to Europe/Asia) during the summer, and north-south (Canada/Northern US to southern US, Caribbean, or South America) during the summer.
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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:04 am

Quoting Wagz (Reply 4):
SNN, DUB, BCN, VCE, and GLA do not operate in the winter

I've noticed US has confirmed them all together for the next summer , maybe it could be a good sign for these seasonal flights. Other infos about those routes?
 
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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:11 am

PHL-GLA has performed very well and there are rumours of the A330 being placed on the route next Summer. I can't speak for the other seasonal flights.

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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:51 am

Quoting Wagz (Reply 4):
MAD downgrades from A333 to 767 in the winter.

Also on the MAD route there is a code-share with Spanair.
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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:08 am

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 5):
If all those trans-Atlantic flights are not operated during the winter, where do the planes go? More domestic flights? Latin America?

Depending on just when during the winter, some combination of CUN, SJU, MCO, STT, NAS.
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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:00 am

I flew on a US AIRWAYS 767 yesterday from Cancun to Charlotte.
 
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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:13 am

last month I flew on N646US and N656US from PHL-BCN and VCE-PHL respectively. When the bookings were made I was excited to be flying the A330 but found out we were going to be flying an ex-Piedmont 767-200ER I was less than enthusiastic. I flew Envoy class and had the seat next to me empty on both legs. It was kind of an empty first class. The service was so-so, they had old lady flight attendants and old crummy seats with no real cool electronics. The food was OK but on the return leg from Venice, they had microwavable pizzas which i liked a lot. I even got extras!

The cabin was very dated looking and I think the planes would better serve US Airways with a cabin spruce-up. New seats would let them charge more for tickets and turn their cabin into a premium, classy cabin. The problem with this is the merger with low-cost America West, which isn't looking to upgrade any sort of first class. So I guess my complaints fall on deaf ears, but at least i've told my story.
 
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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:50 am

Quoting Wagz (Reply 4):
I beleive PIT has lost all trans-atlantic flying.

Yep. Long ago.
 
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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:18 pm

thanks for the info guys !
I personally think the US scheme looks great on the 767..
hopefully one day we'll see them at BHX ?? hahahaha
ohh.. im so funny...

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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:35 am

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 5):
If all those trans-Atlantic flights are not operated during the winter, where do the planes go? More domestic flights? Latin America?

I would think they keep them on European flights as these are (from what I've heard) very profitable.
 
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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:38 am

They used to bring their 762s into LAX often and then every once in a while.

Quoting BHXDTW (Reply 14):

Have you seen their new livery that they'll have when they combine with HP?? It looks pretty nice. There's more detail to it.

Quoting EFCar98 (Reply 12):

Do any of our US/HP fellow employees know if they will be re-furbishing these 762 classics? I know they will be starting HNL service from PHX and LAS? Was thinking they might use these on these trips?

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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:49 am

So is US going to stay part of the star alliance???
 
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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:30 am

Quoting Avpilot01 (Reply 17):
So is US going to stay part of the star alliance???

US is part of STAR ?!?!?!?! since when ?!?!?!?!
 
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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:44 am

Quoting Bhxdtw (Reply 18):
US is part of STAR ?!?!?!?! since when ?!?!?!?!

since May 4, 2004. and yes...they are still in it.
 
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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:55 am

Wow.... how ignorant am I.. !!
and I call myself an enthusiast !... pah ! I am a disgrace to the aviation community !!...
I shall hide under a rock for this !!!!
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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:24 am

Quoting LXsaab2000 (Reply 7):
I've noticed US has confirmed them all together for the next summer , maybe it could be a good sign for these seasonal flights. Other infos about those routes?

Well, I flew the VCE flight this summer and It was at least 80% full, and porbably should have been somewhere around 95% if they hadnt had so many cancellations/delays in PHL due to bad weather. Also they loded a couple cargo containers on too so from that I would say they are doing quite well, at least to VCE. The flight was pretty good too, good service, good food, add some ptvs and I might consider US across the pond more often.

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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:08 am

Quoting LACA773 (Reply 16):
Do any of our US/HP fellow employees know if they will be re-furbishing these 762 classics? I know they will be starting HNL service from PHX and LAS? Was thinking they might use these on these trips?

If the new US uses the 767 on the PHX-HNL route does that require that the aircraft crew be pre-merger US employees and not HP? If so, that would appear to create a political nightmare in PHX.
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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:12 am

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 13):
Yep. Long ago.

Its not even been a year since we lost our FRA flight.
 
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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:23 am

Quoting Jdwfloyd (Reply 23):

Did the US PIT-FRA flight have good O&D yields during the summer? I read about 9 months ago that Pittsburgh was in discussions with United/Lufthansa and un-named others to restart that route (in summer). Anyone know the results of those talks?
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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:33 am

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 5):
Perhaps an ignorant question, but I'm going to pose it anyway:

If all those trans-Atlantic flights are not operated during the winter, where do the planes go? More domestic flights? Latin America?

Regards,

Hamlet69

During the winter period, the 767s are reassigned to some beach destinations such as routes to San Juan and Cancun as well as some turns to major tourist centers such as Orlando where lots of capacity is needed out of US's hubs at CLT and PHL. The 762s stay busy year round. Also, heavy maintainance is scheduled for aircraft during the lower demand winter period so at any given time during the Sept-Dec 15 and Jan-Feb periods, one or more of the 767s may be out of service; of course, US wants the entire fleet available for the summer rush (this is typical of most carriers mx schedules.)

As for a 762 update, its very unclear - US does have orders for the A332 outstanding, the A332s were to replace the 762ERs - its nearly impossible to get a straight answer concerning the status of the A332 order and nothing definite will be known until US winds up its reogranization and the merger with HP is complete. Ten A332s are on order I believe, to replace the 762s one for one. One the other hand, there have been rumors that US/HP plan to keep the 762s around for higher-demand services to Hawaii, the Carib and Mexico, so anything is possible. Its also rumored that the 762s may be used on hub to hub flights between PIT, CLT and PHX, LAS - time will tell.

Finally, dont look for many of the seasonal European routes to go year-round - demand falls off very dramatically on the north atlantic during the winter escpecially on leisure oriented routes to spots in southern europe.
 
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RE: US Airways 767 Routes

Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:25 pm

Quoting Jdwfloyd (Reply 23):

Its not even been a year since we lost our FRA flight.

Almost a year is a long time. Hell in that same time frame US has gone from written off for dead, to one of the legacies with an above average chance of survival.  Wink