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MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:37 am

We announced today that MSY will be reopened to passenger service next Tuesday, September 13. Myself, and many others, have spent today, and will spend the next several days, getting the terminal ready to receive pasenger service.

We have some dates for certain airlines that are planning to resume service to MSY, but they're not cast in stone. Without being specific, service could resume as early as the 18th.

We'll use concourses A and B to start. C and D will still house relief and recovery personnel. The ramp between concourses B and C houses a tent city that houses a mess tent and living quarters. I spent a great deal of today doing roofing inspections and setting up repair schedules on A and B.

The text of the press release is on the Katrina page at http://www.flymsy.com.

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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:44 am

Great news and great job Tom. Keep up the great work!
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:45 am

Good luck with the start up.

And, its good to see some of our friends out of New Orleans returning to this forum......please know that our thoughts have been with you.
 
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:56 am

Tom, What about the parking personnel and TSA folks? Will you have enough people?
 
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Sun Sep 11, 2005 9:01 am

WOW!! Good work to you, your co-workers and others that seemed to perform a miricale there. I would assume that the pax allowed to be mainly people involved in the clean up, government officials, people to get the port and oil/chemical facilities working, access critcal information from major business in the area as well as removing sick and ill people. I would assume that people whom live in N.O. will not have easy access to these flights so not to be in the way.
 
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:07 pm

Any news on who is going to flying in and from where? I am sure we will see CO from IAH, DL from ATL and AA from DFW, but anything else?
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:35 pm

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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:27 pm

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 6):
Looks like I'm ready to go!

Not yet, better take a couple of gallons of bleach for decon....  Smile
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:32 pm

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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:16 pm

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 6):
Hot damn! Just in time for my vacation!

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Looks like I'm ready to go!

Yeah totally....my question is why would they resume flights when they just kicked everyone out of the city? Seems like they would wait until the area is more inhabitable. I suppose they could fly in and go to surrounding regions, but still I can't imagine they are in any better shape...
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:17 pm

I would think to possibly to bring people in to start the rebuilding process for the areas that whern't flooded and that they have already restored power to.
 
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:06 am

Some airlines are tossing around the idea re-directing or expanding what was MSY service to Baton Rouge . I saw one news tidbit which stated Baton Rouge has doubled in population from about 1/4 million to half a million people.
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:55 am

Quoting Flyboyaz (Reply 9):
Yeah totally....my question is why would they resume flights when they just kicked everyone out of the city? Seems like they would wait until the area is more inhabitable. I suppose they could fly in and go to surrounding regions, but still I can't imagine they are in any better shape...

New Orleans accounts for just part of the metropolitan area that was served by MSY. Surrounding communities suffered a lot of damage and flooding, but are not quite as uninhabitable as New Orleans.

People need to get back at some point to begin restoration of homes and businesses... and others need to assist in the assessment of how safe New Orleans will be for residents and how to clean it up.

This re-opening will see only 17% of MSY's pre-Katrina daily departures and arrivals, and by the end of October the number of daily departures and arrivals is expected only to be 34% of pre-Katrina service. That's a stunning drop in service and illustrates how bad the situation is in New Orleans.

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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:38 am

Interesting how they got that wrong about the history of the airfield. New Orleans actually owned the property and was building an airport there when WWII came and the federal government took it over. They gave it back, with a good field developed in 1946.
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:56 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
Interesting how they got that wrong about the history of the airfield. New Orleans actually owned the property and was building an airport there when WWII came and the federal government took it over. They gave it back, with a good field developed in 1946.

I think you have your history wrong.

From the New Orleans Airport's web site:

"However, before any construction began, the United States became involved in World War II in December, 1941. The land for Moisant Field was taken over by the U.S. Government for use as an air base. Facilities were constructed on this land by the Federal Government and were used by the Army until the end of the war in August 1945. In 1946, the Federal Government returned the land plus 295 adjacent acres to the City of New Orleans.

In May, 1946, a commercial air service began at Moisant Field."
 
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:57 am

Quoting BostonGuy (Reply 12):
This re-opening will see only 17% of MSY's pre-Katrina daily departures and arrivals, and by the end of October the number of daily departures and arrivals is expected only to be 34% of pre-Katrina service. That's a stunning drop in service and illustrates how bad the situation is in New Orleans.

I bet the airport will boom with all the work on rebuilding the city that'll be going on. Of course this will be once the water is drained from the city and relief efforts are moved out of the airport terminal.
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:01 am

Quoting BostonGuy (Reply 14):
From the New Orleans Airport's web site:

"However, before any construction began, the United States became involved in World War II in December, 1941. The land for Moisant Field was taken over by the U.S. Government for use as an air base. Facilities were constructed on this land by the Federal Government and were used by the Army until the end of the war in August 1945. In 1946, the Federal Government returned the land plus 295 adjacent acres to the City of New Orleans.

In May, 1946, a commercial air service began at Moisant Field."

I didn't say construction had started. They had planned for the place to be an airport, hence why the Army built one there.
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:17 pm

NW gets the ball rolling with two MEM flights. DL has a morning ATL flight, adding a second flight on Wednesday.

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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:23 pm

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 17):
NW gets the ball rolling with two MEM flights. DL has a morning ATL flight, adding a second flight on Wednesday.

Who will be utilizing these flights?

Hopefully, life is getting a little bit easier for you and your collegues.
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:18 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
I didn't say construction had started.

Actually, you did.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
New Orleans actually owned the property and was building an airport there when WWII came and the federal government took it over.

Just a friendly English tip... "building", when used as a verb, indicates "construction" has already started.
 
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:55 am

DL has several MD88 flights a day to/from ATL, and also one 767-300, so there must be container loading gizmos that are operable.
 
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:26 am

Quoting BostonGuy (Reply 19):

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
New Orleans actually owned the property and was building an airport there when WWII came and the federal government took it over.

Just a friendly English tip... "building", when used as a verb, indicates "construction" has already started.

A friendly English tip here from an American, born and raised in California, currently attending a top law school in the city you live in, "building" can indicate both plans to build and building already in progress
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:27 am

Does anyone know whether flights are still daylight only visual approaches?
 
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:44 am

According to the press release--only daylight flights.
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:44 am

What's interesting, is looking at flytecomm's list of flights today, there's oodles of "planned" flights that we know will never get flown, still listed ...

I guess the database still isn't updated.

Also - DL's flight today, 9895, was a 732, but still flown under a 9xxx series flight #.

Northwest's flights, 947 (A320) and 1932 (DC9-50), are listed under normal flight #s.

Those seem to be the only flights for the day ...

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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:01 am

The first arrival was a NW A320 (N332NW). He landed right as I was getting off one of the Firehawk helicopters after taking another 1-hour flight over the entire New Orleans area. We flew along the Lake Ponchatrain shoreline out beyond NEW, out to the I-10 bridge failures, then back over the flooded out, torn up Chalmette/Lower 9th Ward areas (this area looked like a bomb went off), past the downtown area (Superdome, Convention Center, etc), and back to the airport.

A DL 732 landed just after NW, N376DL.

A very, very busy day around here otherwise. Lots of us doing a ton of work.

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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:04 am

Is anybody on those planes in and out?
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:15 am

The NW flight, 947, had about 30 people on board.

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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:00 am

As local parishes are reopened (Jefferson yesterday to businesses) to residents and busineses to clean up, and the restoration effort fully kicks in, I would expect the load factors to go through the roof, and many more flights added. Obviously it'll be years and years before we get back to pre-Katrina type levels, but we're coming back.

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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:07 am

How many flights per day did MSY average before all of this?
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:28 am

Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 29):
How many flights per day did MSY average before all of this?

174 per day.

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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:41 am

Hi, Tom. I was able to visit your great city in February of this year, and enjoyed it immensely. One thing I'm wondering is if you saw the Audobon Zoo in your helicopter flights. I haven't heard any coverage of what happened to it and the animals that live there.
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:26 am

Good to hear things are slowly coming online - especially when given the grim predictions of several months that the media was kicking around!

Tom, just out of curiosity do you happen to know how the Causeway fared in the storm?
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:36 am

Quoting Revelation (Reply 31):
I was able to visit your great city in February of this year, and enjoyed it immensely. One thing I'm wondering is if you saw the Audobon Zoo in your helicopter flights. I haven't heard any coverage of what happened to it and the animals that live there.

The zoo is on relatively high ground, and both the zoo itself as well as virtually all of the animals made it through Katrina unscathed. Two or three animals were lost due to the lack of power to keep conditions optimal.
 
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:43 am

Quoting Revelation (Reply 31):
if you saw the Audobon Zoo in your helicopter flights.

I didn't get a good look at the Audubon Park/Zoo area, but I have read that the Zoo came away fairly well, and the animals. I saw that the alligators floated away for a time, and that all but one have returned. Quite a few of the animals were evacuated, and many have returned.

I also hear that NW will be up to 5 daily flights by this time next week.

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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:50 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 32):
Tom, just out of curiosity do you happen to know how the Causeway fared in the storm?

From what I hear, it took a lot of damage
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:57 am

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 11):
Some airlines are tossing around the idea re-directing or expanding what was MSY service to Baton Rouge . I saw one news tidbit which stated Baton Rouge has doubled in population from about 1/4 million to half a million people.

Yes, AA is increasing the BTR service. They've had 3 flights on MD-8x aircraft DFW-BTR.

Delta has operated a mainline flight in the 9xxx range to BTR nearly daily, sometimes more than 1 daily for a destination that is not usually ATL-BTR mainline.
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:02 am

As I recall, the Causeway damage was pretty much cosmetic, and, like I-10, was being used for emergency services only.

We flew over the I-10 bridge between New Orleans and Slidell this morning. That thing is trashed. A lot of span sections down, etc.

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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:21 pm

Quoting AirWest (Reply 27):
The NW flight, 947, had about 30 people on board.

Only about 30 people on a A320...no wonder Northwest is on the brink of filing for bankruptcy  Smile
 
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RE: MSY To Resume Pax Operations Next Tuesday

Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:28 pm

Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 38):
Only about 30 people on a A320...no wonder Northwest is on the brink of filing for bankruptcy

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