B707Stu
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Impact Of DL Filing Bankruptcy.

Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:41 am

I'm wondering if Song stays, or domestic DL stays? Does SLC get reduced or bumped up? Which aircraft go and come? Is it time for them to merge? So many questions..
 
panamair
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RE: Impact Of DL Filing Bankruptcy.

Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:03 am

Operationally, you're not going to see significant changes. What DL has been doing in the past 12-18 months with the Transformation Plan (closing DFW, retiring a/c and simplifying fleet, expansion of international flying, expanding Song in certain markets, etc.) are things they would be doing in BK. The additional things that BK basically accomplishes for DL are things they cannot or are having a difficult time doing outside the courts:

1) Buys them more time against creditors (repayments due, etc.) till all the beneifts of the Transformation Plan and additional cuts kick in
2) Buys them more time till Pension and potentially other reforms pass through Congress
3) Allows them to renegotiate leases, debt, etc., that have been very difficult to do outside of BK
4) Allows them to potentially dump expensive DALPA and Comair contracts
 
DLPMMM
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RE: Impact Of DL Filing Bankruptcy.

Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:07 am

To answer your question briefly:

Nothing changes from a customer point of view.

DL gets DIP financing, sheds it's defined benefit pension plan liabilities, renegotiates leases and contracts (most of which are probably already renegotiated), renegotiates union contracts with pilots and dispatchers, cancels outstanding stock shares, reissues new shares to debt holders in exchange for debt relief, perhaps issues new shares in exchange for cash.

Merger is possible after these steps are done, but a likely merger partner is not evident at this time due to industry woes.
 
uadc8contrail
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RE: Impact Of DL Filing Bankruptcy.

Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:17 am

no real changes other than most delta employees(non union) will not have a choice when it comes to paycuts, also do not know what your pass benefits are but ual started charging its employees(at the request of some committee)--my a$$ just more ways to get more out of the employee. pension will probably be dumped to the pbgc other than that its status quo. one thing that i hope does not happen but could is when ual dumped the pensions ual and iam came up with a additional pension paid out by the iam along with the pbgc pension, although it was not as much as the orig ual pension it was better than just relying on the pennies that the pbgc is going to pay, that could happen to non union employees......also remember the word"kerp", if delta does what ual did, some employees could get a pay raise as crazy as it sounds...uals reasoning was that they had to pay top dollar to keep the IT guys and the top dogs from jumping ship...expect bonuses for management if they stay with in the covenants set by the dip people.....
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panamair
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RE: Impact Of DL Filing Bankruptcy.

Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:54 am

Quoting Uadc8contrail (Reply 3):
most delta employees(non union) will not have a choice when it comes to paycuts

Actually, most DL employees today already have no choice when it comes to pay and benefits cuts as they are non-union. DL could have imposed more cuts on them already without the help of the courts. BK will enable them to tear up the DALPA contract though...
 
ghymes
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RE: Impact Of DL Filing Bankruptcy.

Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:59 am

Will this impact the Delta non-rev (and friends of family) benefits?

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