HBIHLtoEZE
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Cielos Cargo

Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:04 am

MIA is becoming a heaven for DC-10s.

I was taking some good old slides at MIA some 10 days ago and was pleasantly surprised by 10 different DC-10s (South Wind Cargo N140WE, Arrow N524MD and N526MD (in all white colors) and N478CT, and especially Cielos Cargo N305FE, N322FE, N833LA and OB-1749, Centurion N612GC and Gemini N602GC.   

Above all I was pleased by Cielos, as I did not expect MIA to be so well visited by them and I must say, nothing is better than being overwhelmed by some unexpected 3-holers:


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According to their webpage their base is MIA rather than LIM (at least there are many more flights leaving Florida's biggest airport than Peru's). Is it just me who is surprised how big they have grown? I just think this is an airline that is somehow not talked about enough even though they have now one of the biggest DC-10 fleets worldwide (7 Dc-10Fs).

So what makes them so unknown ? Any help to solve this mysterious riddle?

Thank you for your comments,

cheers y saludos

HBIHL

[Edited 2005-09-12 20:07:14]
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RE: Cielos Cargo

Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:45 am

All I know about Cielos is the 757 on the basic MS FS programme is a Cielos 757. Not sure if they ever had any, I thought it was a made-up airline at the time (late 90s). Then I saw a few DC10s (or an MD11?) and found out they really existed.
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HBIHLtoEZE
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RE: Cielos Cargo

Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:31 am

Well, another try: is it still a Peruvian company or has it become predominantly American?

What makes them so successful?

[Edited 2005-09-13 18:32:33]
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Avianca
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RE: Cielos Cargo

Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:25 am

Quoting HBIHLtoEZE (Reply 2):
Peruvian company

as I know it´s an airline from Peru, but mostly flights are ex MIA....

All flights that I know for the moment.


CCS:

Days of Flight
Service Dep Arr Day Number Type Class Stops
12345 0800 MIA 1100 CCS A2 305 D1F BBF 0


MDE:

Days of Flight
Service Dep Arr Day Number Type Class Stops
12345 0800 MIA 1400 MDE A2 305 D1F BBF 1
6 1800 MIA 2200 MDE A2 703 D1F BBF 1


CLO:

Days of Flight
Service Dep Arr Day Number Type Class Stops
2 4 6 1900 MIA 2230 CLO A2 325 D1F BBF 0


BOG:

Days of Flight
Service Dep Arr Day Number Type Class Stops
3 1400 MIA 2000 BOG A2 307 D1F BBF 1
12 456 1900 MIA 2130 BOG A2 605 D1F BBF 0
2 5 2300 MIA 0130 1 BOG A2 303 D1F BBF 0


VCP:

Days of Flight
Service Dep Arr Day Number Type Class Stops
4 7 1530 MIA 0130 1 VCP A2 311 D1F BBF 0


EZE:

Days of Flight
Service Dep Arr Day Number Type Class Stops
3 0400 MIA 1630 EZE A2 321 D1F BBF 1
7 1330 MIA 2300 EZE A2 321 D1F BBF 0


SCL:

Days of Flight
Service Dep Arr Day Number Type Class Stops
3 0500 MIA 1700 SCL A2 323 D1F BBF 1
4 1400 MIA 0500 1 SCL A2 323 D1F BBF 1
7 1400 MIA 2300 SCL A2 323 D1F BBF 0


LIM:


Days of Flight
Service Dep Arr Day Number Type Class Stops
2345 0330 MIA 0800 LIM A2 341 D1F BBF 0
7 1330 MIA 1800 LIM A2 341 D1F BBF 0


PTY:

Days of Flight
Service Dep Arr Day Number Type Class Stops
2 5 2300 MIA 0530 1 PTY A2 303 D1F BBF 1


BAQ:

Days of Flight
Service Dep Arr Day Number Type Class Stops
6 1800 MIA 1930 BAQ A2 703 D1F BBF 0




will come with more information...

regards
Avianca
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Avianca
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RE: Cielos Cargo

Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:31 am

they are also present in europe as they have block space agrements on cargolux flights from lux to vcp and cwb....(brazil)....

it would be great if Cielos would open a mia-europe-mia flight to conect to all latinamerican destinations......


the former name was Cielos del Peru....

as I know they are tranporting mainly flowers, asparagus and other perishables northbound to the us, and industrial goods and consumer products down to Latin-America...

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BigOrange
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RE: Cielos Cargo

Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:46 am

Quoting HBIHLtoEZE (Reply 2):
Well, another try: is it still a Peruvian company or has it become predominantly American?

Think Challenge Air Cargo and you will have your answer  Wink

Possibly why a B757 appeared in FS!
 
747srule
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RE: Cielos Cargo

Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:40 am

I was pleasantly surprised to see N831LA at LAX on 9/3. It was a DC-10.
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miamix707
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RE: Cielos Cargo

Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:55 pm

..and all of their DC-10s are named "PETETE"

Cielos had their own aircraft at least since 1998. I know they had 1 or 2 B707 freighters in full colors then. The first DC-10s first appeared at Miami in 2002. I believe they're somehow related to Argentinan airline STAF, which had an almost identical livery. STAF flew to Miami with a DC-10 during the 1990s and then leased an MD11 for a year or so but then stopped flying to Miami around 2001. I dont think STAF are flying any planes anymore. Cielos seem to have taken over for them and become much bigger than STAF ever were.
 
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RE: Cielos Cargo

Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:10 pm

So Centurion/Challenge owns this company?
 
miamix707
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RE: Cielos Cargo

Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:22 pm

I dont get the Challenge example. That was an American company that flew mostly to Latin America. IT's been renamed Centurion and only fly DC10s too but they're still American. Cielos was supposedly Peruvian but is it now American? (since the Peru part of the name was dropped)
 
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RE: Cielos Cargo

Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:20 am

Ok, maybe I'm confused...nothing new there!

My apologies it is Centurion who are related to Challenge not Cielos!

Cielos seem to have MIA as there main hub, but they do fly between LAX and South America.

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