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Novair Difference?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:03 am

i just wondered whats the difference between these companies, was the uk version bought out? or is it that one ceased ops and another used the same name, im just curious?



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RE: Novair Difference?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:12 am

The original British Novair was a charter carrier operating DC10-10s and 737-400s they were owned by the Rank organisation who changed the name of the carrier from Cal-Air when they took it over.

BCal wanted to sell its charter operation (Cal Air) so Novair came into being with basically the same livery as Cal Air apart from the star on the tail.

Novair UK didnt last long as they entered the IT market when there was an excess of charter capacity.

The 'other' Novair has nothing at all to do with the British charter carrier. It is a fairly recent Swedish charter carrier carrying sun-starved Swedes to the Canaries etc. I believe before they got the 330/321s they had a L1011!
 
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RE: Novair Difference?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:29 am

Allow me to contribute to your confusion with yet another picture:


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Although this one is NovaAir, not Novair

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RE: Novair Difference?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:18 pm

Hate to nick pick, Orion 737, but CalAir was jointly owned by British Caledonian and The Rank Organisation. BCal had the aircraft without the bums to put on the seats, Rank (through its various tour operating companies which at that time included Wings) had the bums who needed seats but no aircraft. That is why they each put 50% into the airline (which was previously British Caledonian Charter) that took over the leases of 3 ex-Laker DC10s following Laker's collapse. For reasons that are well-documented, BCal had to withdraw from the charter operation and Rank was then left sole owner. Rank could not use the name CalAIr, so they changed it to Novair.

As you say, Novair did not last for long.
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RE: Novair Difference?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:31 pm

The Swedish Novair has also operated some 738s. During the summer, most of their A321 and A332 flights are to Greek or other Mediterranean destinations, while during the winter, the A332 is used on longer flights to Thailand and other faraway destinations.
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RE: Novair Difference?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:36 pm

Quoting Fly727 (Reply 2):
Although this one is NovaAir, not Novair

Although Nova has a special meaning in spanish, I tend not to say what "No va" means in spanish  Smile

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RE: Novair Difference?

Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:24 pm

Quoting Fly727 (Reply 2):
Although this one is NovaAir, not Novair

Intresting, even if the swedish carrier is known as Novair, their full name is Nova Airlines AB.

They started operations around -97 -98 with Airbus 320 and Tristars


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Replaced Boeing 737 with Airbus 321.


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