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Why Is Shannon So Important To Russian Airlines?

Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:27 pm

I know that Shannon used to be a stopover for Aeroflot on its long haul services across the Atlantic, but I was curious as to why Shannon has in the past and still plays an important role in Russian aerospace. Even today I hear regularly of 2nd hand Western aircraft being delivered to various Russian airlines and invariably they got to Shannon first for their repainting, maintanance and so on.

So if anyone could shed some light on why Shannon sees all this Russian traffic/work aheand of other airports I'd be interested to know why. It may just be my perception and that other airports see just a smuch Russian work, but it seems to me that Shannon gets the lion's share of it.
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RE: Why Is Shannon So Important To Russian Airlines?

Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:34 pm

Can't answer the question, but having worked at SNN for a few years (a while ago) you're right in that the presence of Eastern European carriers in general is huge. IIRC, Belavia have service from SNN to Minsk of all places, Aeroflot IL62s used to be regular visitors.

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RE: Why Is Shannon So Important To Russian Airlines?

Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:44 pm

That may not be so true now.

Yes, Shannon was an important transit stop in the past for USSR / Russian aircraft, who had range constraints across the Atlantic. The Russians even built a fuel farm to supply their own aircraft with their own fuel, for reasons relating to hard currency.

Some, but very little of this type of transit business remains.
Ironically the big transit users of SNN now are US military related movements!

Volga Dnieper usually have an Antonov or two there and the various MRO's there do get some business of that type. Another factor is that some of the leasing companies supplying aircraft to the ex USSR market are Irish based and repatriate their aircraft between leases to have work done in Ireland, not only in SNN but with SR Technic in DUB.

Incidentally SR have just announced redundancies so send more business please!
 
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RE: Why Is Shannon So Important To Russian Airlines?

Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:47 pm

In the old days...it was a nice stop in a neutral nation with inexpensive ground handling and fuel.
The Russian airliners of the time did not have the legs to make it nonstop to NA, Cuba, or S. America; hence, Shannon was geographically prime for these long-distance flights; becoming the stop of choice for thirsty Russian Illyushins and Tupolevs.

As for why it continues to this day; is due to old habits being hard to die.
Over time, the infrastructure has matured to a point of still being an economically viable place to get things done.
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irishmd11
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RE: Why Is Shannon So Important To Russian Airlines?

Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:13 pm

Quoting Dstc47 (Reply 2):
The Russians even built a fuel farm to supply their own aircraft with their own fuel, for reasons relating to hard currency.

During my few years at the College of Hotel Management at Shannon(1975 - 1979) I can well remember many strolls around the airside apron there. The Aeroflot IL 62's were regular visitors, always a uniformed guard on the tarmac whilst the aircraft was parked. Photography was no problem however.

As to the fuel farm, the word was that instead of Aeroflot paying their landing fees, the contract with Aer Rianta allowed the airport to sell some of the Russian fuel to other airlines. Barter, simply bartering...

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dstc47
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RE: Why Is Shannon So Important To Russian Airlines?

Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:20 pm

Indeed correct IrishMD11

Cheap Russian fuel was indeed a selling point for SNN for other transit traffic.

(If SNN weather is like DUB is now, would not fancy a stroll today even for an IL62!)
 
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RE: Why Is Shannon So Important To Russian Airlines?

Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:23 pm

Actually since the Irish and the Russians both like their toddys, the planes need to stop to restock before heading off to Moscow.  Smile
 
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RE: Why Is Shannon So Important To Russian Airlines?

Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:12 pm

Quoting Dstc47 (Reply 5):
(If SNN weather is like DUB is now, would not fancy a stroll today even for an IL62!)

Sorry for you DUB's, don't know about SNN, but I've got lots of sunshine in Geneva right now...

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