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Boeing Orders Summary For 9/13/05

Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:50 pm

Here's Boeing order summary

Interesting to note that LOTs 787 order is finalized!
4 777 UFOs were added
Jade's 744F orders are listed
2 737 cancellations (wonder who from?

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm
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RE: Boeing Orders Summary For 9/13/05

Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:16 am

To me it's the total (605 so far this year, including 34 777s and 118 787s) that is the most striking aspect.

[Edited 2005-09-15 17:37:06]
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RE: Boeing Orders Summary For 9/13/05

Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:59 am

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 1):
To me it's the total (605 so far this year, including 34 777s and 118 787s) that is the most striking aspect.

[Edited 2005-09-15 17:37:06]

Well corrected!

The striking number is the outstanding number of 737 ordered.

Which tends to be huge each great year (2000 the same). I am not impressed by 777 numbers. Overall, 777+787 numbers will be what the 747+757+767+777 have been the past 6 years maybe less. Which shows that both competition and 777/787 have killed the 747-757-767.

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RE: Boeing Orders Summary For 9/13/05

Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:50 am

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
2 737 cancellations (wonder who from?

Judging by the timing, I would suggest LOT's 2 737-800's that have been on the books for years, constantly deferred.

Quoting Eha (Reply 2):
I am not impressed by 777 numbers.

Then you're probably the only one among those who follow commercial aviation. As already stated, Boeing has netted 34 firm orders this year. In addition, airlines have announced pending orders for 59 more. That does not even include the 18 that Air Canada was to buy this year. The firm/pending total of 94 frames would make 2005 the 777's best sales year since 2000 (117), and the third best ever (1995 saw 101 net orders).

However, there remains a handful of large campaigns still pending, that Boeing could net more orders from (I'm not one to jump the gun, but EK and QF both appear to be near significant 777 orders). With these pending campaigns, Boeing could easily surpass the 2000 total.


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RE: Boeing Orders Summary For 9/13/05

Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:53 am

They have got be close to their record, does anyone remember what it was? I thought it was in the mid 600's?
 
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RE: Boeing Orders Summary For 9/13/05

Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:07 am

And when you consider that the US carriers, who in the past have constituted what I would guess is the largest single market, are posting some of the smaller orders (number-wise), in other words not contributing sustantially to this huge pile of orders, given their financial situations, it makes the total amount of orders that much more impressive.
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RE: Boeing Orders Summary For 9/13/05

Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:19 am

maybe these four 777s are for Biman?

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RE: Boeing Orders Summary For 9/13/05

Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:38 am

there is an update for 10 unidentified 777 orders...are those for previously mentioned (on this thread) 9W orders or some carrier/leasing company completely new?

on a side note, its nice to see the 747 get 19 new net orders for this year..this should keep the line long enough for the 747ADV, which I think is coming.. yes

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm
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RE: Boeing Orders Summary For 9/13/05

Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:46 am

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 3):
However, there remains a handful of large campaigns still pending, that Boeing could net more orders from (I'm not one to jump the gun, but EK and QF both appear to be near significant 777 orders). With these pending campaigns, Boeing could easily surpass the 2000 total

You are spot on...an EK order alone could easily make this a record 777 year. I dare say there are additional pending orders that could add to this. There's been significant interest in both the 777F and the 777LR.

Killed the 747? Boeing is showing 19 net orders this year and (based on comments from at least 2 airlines) positioned to launch the 747ADV before year's end.

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RE: Boeing Orders Summary For 9/13/05

Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:33 am

Quoting Eha (Reply 2):
Which shows that both competition and 777/787 have killed the 747-757-767.

I find 19 B747 orders more striking than 34 B777 orders.

Airbus killed the B757 and B767 before the B787 would have killed the B767. That's why Boeing is building the B787 now rather than earlier or later.

That's why A & B will not likely replace the A320 and B737NG while both still enjoy large backlogs.
 
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RE: Boeing Orders Summary For 9/13/05

Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:38 am

The 737s will break the record this year. It, at the moment, has 434 orders, and more than 3 months to go. In 3 months, they can easily get 6-7 more orders. It has NEVER done this well! The closest is year 1996 with 440 orders for the 737.
 
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RE: Boeing Orders Summary For 9/13/05

Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:07 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 10):
The 737s will break the record this year. It, at the moment, has 434 orders, and more than 3 months to go. In 3 months, they can easily get 6-7 more orders

Agree, Boeing currently have 119 737s "pending" from 7 different carriers. CZ alone, once they firm their order, can take them over that total.

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RE: Boeing Orders Summary For 9/13/05

Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:33 pm

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 11):
Agree, Boeing currently have 119 737s "pending" from 7 different carriers.

Does that include the 18 for Garuda?
 
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RE: Boeing Orders Summary For 9/13/05

Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:36 pm

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 12):
Does that include the 18 for Garuda?

No sir, it does not. Garuda appear to be leasing these so I feel those 18 may not be "new" but re-affirmation of a previous order that was deferred by GA.

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RE: Boeing Orders Summary For 9/13/05

Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:31 pm

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 9):
I find 19 B747 orders more striking than 34 B777 orders.

Same here, superb new for the Boeing 747. That will keep the production line of the 747 busy until the 747ADV comes out, which it hopefully will.

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RE: Boeing Orders Summary For 9/13/05

Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:54 pm

Now we have this addition as well!!

Indonesia Garuda Signs $2 Billion Fleet Upgrade Deal With Boeing

Friday September 16, 4:15 AM EDT

JAKARTA -(Dow Jones)- Indonesia's flag carrier PT Garuda Indonesia and U.S. aircraft manufacturer Boeing Co. (BA) (BA) signed a $2 billion deal Thursday to modernize the company's fleet, Garuda said in a statement Friday.

Under the deal, Garuda will operate 18 Boeing (BA) 737-800s by 2006 to replace its five 737-400s. It will also operate 10 Boeing (BA) 787 Dreamliners by 2013, the statement said.

Garuda said the move to operate the Dreamliner is in line with the company's aim to modernize its fleet to make it more competitive and cost-efficient.

The statement said the Dreamliner will use 20% less fuel than today's comparable aircraft, while providing up to 45% more cargo revenue capacity.


The 787 family will carry passengers on routes between 3,500 and 8,500 nautical miles (6,500 to 16,000 kilometers), Garuda said, without elaborating.

Boeing (BA) plans to debut the Dreamliner with a maiden flight scheduled for 2007, with certification, delivery and entry into service in 2008.

The carrier currently operates 57 Boeing (BA) aircraft of various models.


Way to go Boeing, they are truly having a banner year!

Does anyone know the record for the single biggest year of orders for Boeing?
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RE: Boeing Orders Summary For 9/13/05

Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:27 pm

Thanks for the info on Garuda! I wonder what that means for their 777 order ?

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