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Busiest Airports?

Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:19 am

Hello everyone!

where can I find a ranking of the world's busiest airports (passengers/aircraft movements)

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RE: Busiest Airports?

Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:38 am

this month's airliner world magazine has top 100 by passengers
 
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RE: Busiest Airports?

Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:48 am

Also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_busiest_airports

A bit outdated but it gives you a good idea.

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RE: Busiest Airports?

Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:56 am

Quoting IRelayer (Reply 2):
A bit outdated but it gives you a good idea.

Wikipedia is an absolutely horrible resource when giving air transport industry information.

The world's busiest airport is ATL, followed by ORD. For international passengers, it is LHR. For O&D, it is LAX
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RE: Busiest Airports?

Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:28 am

In the USA, ORD usually has more flights than ATL, but it's very close on a day to day basis.

Here are top 15 US Airports in terms of movements, based on data from this week. Note: Most of the airports after DFW are pretty close in number of movements, so vary slightly from day to day, week to week.

1 ORD CHICAGO OHARE INTNL,CHICAGO
2 ATL THE WILLIAM B HARTSFIELD ATLANTA INTL,ATLANTA
3 DFW DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTERNATIONAL,
4 DEN DENVER INTL,DENVER
5 IAD WASHINGTON DULLES INTERNATIONAL,WASHINGTON
6 MSP MINNEAPOLIS-ST PAUL INTL
7 LAX LOS ANGELES INTL,LOS ANGELES
8 PHX PHOENIX SKY HARBOR INTL,PHOENIX
9 DTW DETROIT METROPOLITAN WAYNE COUNTY,DETROIT
10 PHL PHILADELPHIA INTL,PHILADELPHIA
11 IAH GEORGE BUSH INTERCONTINENTAL HOUSTON
12 CLT CHARLOTTE/DOUGLAS INTL,CHARLOTTE
13 CVG CINCINNATI/COVINGTON/CINCINNATI, OH
14 LAS MC CARRAN INTL,LAS VEGAS
15 MEM MEMPHIS INTL,MEMPHIS


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RE: Busiest Airports?

Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:39 am

It will surely be ORD from now on as delta, has filed for CH.11 protection, and will cut flights at ATL as they already have at CVG.

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RE: Busiest Airports?

Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:55 am

Um, are we talking movements or passengers??

Most airports are ranked by the number of passengers that go through. Passengers=$

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RE: Busiest Airports?

Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:56 am

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 4):
In the USA, ORD usually has more flights than ATL, but it's very close on a day to day basis.

Here are top 15 US Airports in terms of movements, based on data from this week. Note: Most of the airports after DFW are pretty close in number of movements, so vary slightly from day to day, week to week.

1 ORD CHICAGO OHARE INTNL,CHICAGO
2 ATL THE WILLIAM B HARTSFIELD ATLANTA INTL,ATLANTA
3 DFW DALLAS/FORT WORTH INTERNATIONAL,
4 DEN DENVER INTL,DENVER
5 IAD WASHINGTON DULLES INTERNATIONAL,WASHINGTON
6 MSP MINNEAPOLIS-ST PAUL INTL
7 LAX LOS ANGELES INTL,LOS ANGELES
8 PHX PHOENIX SKY HARBOR INTL,PHOENIX
9 DTW DETROIT METROPOLITAN WAYNE COUNTY,DETROIT
10 PHL PHILADELPHIA INTL,PHILADELPHIA
11 IAH GEORGE BUSH INTERCONTINENTAL HOUSTON
12 CLT CHARLOTTE/DOUGLAS INTL,CHARLOTTE
13 CVG CINCINNATI/COVINGTON/CINCINNATI, OH
14 LAS MC CARRAN INTL,LAS VEGAS
15 MEM MEMPHIS INTL,MEMPHIS

That is commercial airports, as I can assure you VNY is up near the top overall
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RE: Busiest Airports?

Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:09 am

Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 6):
Um, are we talking movements or passengers??

The initial question: where can I find a ranking of the world's busiest airports (passengers/aircraft movements)

Quoting N1120A (Reply 7):
That is commercial airports, as I can assure you VNY is up near the top overall

Nowhere close! The busiest 'non-airline' airport in the world is Teterboro, closely followed by White Plains (HPN) and Dulles IAD, but the number of movements are a fraction of ATL and ORD. Around 600/day as opposed to 2500/day.

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RE: Busiest Airports?

Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:11 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 7):

That is commercial airports, as I can assure you VNY is up near the top overall

Oh really? Did they put in triple-parallels at VNY in the recent past?  Silly
 
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RE: Busiest Airports?

Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:13 am

Quoting NASOCEANA (Reply 5):
It will surely be ORD from now on as delta, has filed for CH.11 protection, and will cut flights at ATL as they already have at CVG.

Don't look for DL to cut many flights from ATL, CVG will take most. Even if DL cut 100 daily mainline flights at ATL, which they won't, it would still be overwhelmingly the busiest airport in the world. That's only gonna change if DL folds, which is a long way away hopefully.

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RE: Busiest Airports?

Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:18 am

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 10):
100 daily mainline flights at ATL, which they won't, it would still be overwhelmingly the busiest airport in the world.

I don't think ATL's passenger count lead on ORD is that substantial, but I'm willing to be called wrong if someone has the cold, hard facts.
 
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RE: Busiest Airports?

Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:20 am

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 11):
I don't think ATL's passenger count lead on ORD is that substantial, but I'm willing to be called wrong if someone has the cold, hard facts.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004547.html

Just look at the fact that DL's adding 8 new international flights in the coming future. ORD is not expanding.

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RE: Busiest Airports?

Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:28 am

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 12):


Just look at the fact that DL's adding 8 new international flights in the coming future. ORD is not expanding.

Rank Airport Total Yearly Pass. % Growth 2003-2004
1. Atlanta, Hartsfield (ATL) 83,578,906 5.7%
2. Chicago, O'Hare (ORD) 75,373,888 7.1%

7.1% seems bigger than 5.7% to me.
 
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RE: Busiest Airports?

Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:21 am

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 4):
In the USA, ORD usually has more flights than ATL, but it's very close on a day to day basis.

Actually, ATL has surpassed ORD not only on passenger numbers but also the number of a/c movements.
 
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RE: Busiest Airports?

Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:27 am

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 14):
Actually, ATL has surpassed ORD not only on passenger numbers but also the number of a/c movements.

Well...like I said, I have real numbers here and it's a wash, but ORD usually ahead by a few. Not really worth arguing that one is more than the other .... roughly equal depending on day of week etc.

Here is last 24hrs actual arrivals:

1298 ORD
1194 ATL


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RE: Busiest Airports?

Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:11 am

From the ACI:
http://www.aci.aero/cda/aci/display/...sp?zn=aci&cp=1-5-212-218-224_9_2__

Airport rankings in PASSENGER counts for the past 12 months ending May 2005, updated August 17, 2005

(total pax enplaned and deplaned, passengers in transit counted once)

Airport Total %Chg

1 ATL.........................85 373 958.....4.5
2 ORD.........................76 476 261.....5.3
3 LHR.........................67 955 909.....3.2
4 HND.........................62 548 787.....(0.2)
5 LAX.........................61 273 359.....6.8
6 DFW........................58 920 061.....4.3
7 CDG.........................51 841 391.....8.7
8 FRA.........................51 375 644.....2.8
9 AMS........................43 036 171.....4.3
10 DEN........................42 629 682.....7.1
11 LAS........................42 590 531.....10.6
12 PHX........................40 383 751.....5.9
13 MAD.......................39 749 488.....6.8
14 JFK........................39 078 239.....14.2
15 HKG.......................38 613 000.....22.2
16 BKK........................38 436 059.....14.9
17 IAH........................38 070 247.....8.1
18 MSP.......................37 638 484.....8.3
19 PEK........................37 310 503....29.1
20 DTW.......................36 300 355.....8.3
21 SFO........................34 005 966.....10.1
22 MCO.......................32 347 143.....9.9
23 EWR.......................32 235 342.....4.6
24 LGW.......................32 233 003.....6.0
25 NRT........................31 748 795.....11.3
26 SIN.........................31 190 591.....14.0
27 PHL.........................30 743 775.....19.0
28 MIA.........................30 373 331.....0.3
29 YYZ........................29 598 686.....12.8
30 SEA........................29 053 873.....5.1

Airports participating in the ACI Monthly Traffic Statistics Collection. Results are preliminary.

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Airports ranked by MOVEMENTS:

http://www.aci.aero/cda/aci/display/...tent.jsp?zn=aci&cp=1-5-54-57_9_2__

Traffic Movements 2004 FINAL, Last update: July 12 2005

Rank City (Airport) Total Movements % Change

1 ORD..........................992 427............6.9
2 ATL..........................964 858............5.8
3 DFW.........................804 865............5.2
4 LAX..........................655 097............5.3
5 DEN..........................560 198...........11.9
6 PHX..........................546 763............0.9
7 LAS..........................544 679............8.7
8 MSP..........................541 093............5.6
9 CDG..........................525 660............2.1
10 DTW.........................522 538............6.4
11 CVG..........................517 520............2.4
12 IAH...........................517 197............8.9
13 PHL...........................486 164............8.9
14 FRA...........................477 475............4.1
15 LHR...........................475 999............2.7
16 IAD...........................469 634...........40.0
17 VNY..........................448 681..........( 2.6)
18 EWR......................... 437 828.............7.6
19 CLT...........................427 390............(3.6)
20 AMS..........................418 613.............2.5
21 SLC...........................411 978.............2.9
22 BOS..........................405 258.............8.6
23 YYZ..........................403 778.............8.8
24 MAD..........................401 503.............4.6
25 MIA...........................400 864............(4.0)
26 LGA...........................398 957.............6.4
27 MEM..........................387 968............(3.6)
28 MUC...........................383 110.............7.7
29 SEA...........................358 898..............1.2
30 SFB............................357 076............(7.3)

Airports participating in the ACI Annual Traffic Statistics Collection.
Total Movements: landing and take off of an aircraft.

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And for historical amusement, non-commercial Opa-locka Airport (OPF) held the #1 ranking in movements nationwide (yes, busier than ORD at the time) for one or two years in the early 70's due to Vietnam Era GI bill flight training activities at several flight schools on the field.
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RE: Busiest Airports?

Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:40 am

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Quoting DB777 (Reply 16):
Total Movements: landing and take off of an aircraft.

You mean landing or takeoff?

How do touch-and-go's count?
 
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RE: Busiest Airports?

Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:30 am

It's ACI's language, not mine. If I were to guess, it would really be landings per year because generally takeoffs are the same amount or very close to it. I know they say "and" but it's misleading in that one could think that X airport has 1000 ops and 500 of those would be landings and 500 would be takeoffs, and I don't think that's the case.

I could be wrong but I believe touch and goes are counted as one operation, just like a pax arrival and then departure hours later.
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RE: Busiest Airports?

Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:41 am

No, a movement would be a landing OR a takeoff.

If you take my landings figures and do a rough multiply by 365, you get around 50% of your last years total movements.

A touch and go is counted as 2 movements.


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[Edited 2005-09-16 04:43:11]
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