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Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:19 am

BOS (like many other cities) used to have many domestic/ continental widebodies. I am trying to remember them all. Here is my list from about 1984:


ATL: DL L10
BDA: DL L10
ORD: AA D10, UA D10, NW D10, TW L10
DFW: DL 767, AA 767
DEN: UA D10
FTL: DL L10
BLD: DL L10
LAX: UA D10, AA D10, TW L10
MSP: NW D10
YUL: DL L10
JFK: TW L10, TW 747
LGA: EA AB3, DL 767
EWR: NW D10
MCO: DL L10, EA AB3
PHL: EA L10
STL: TW L10
SFO: TW L10, UA D10
SJU: EA AB3
IAD: NW D10
PBI: DL L10

Now, this does not included other services, before and since!
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:24 am

I remember 1977 or 1978 Continental had a Dc10 flying Bos-Den
 
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:29 am

NW IAD DC-10 continued on to SEA flew it several times and DTW at times recieved NW DC10's and B747's. In the early 70's SFO UA morning flight was a 747 that continued on to HNL
 
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:32 am

AA had DC10's to both BUF and DTW at one point.
EA often had L10's into ATL and MIA
DL had seasonal L10's into PBI, TPA, and MCO
As posted, CO flew the D10 to DEN.
I believe NW had occasional scheduled D10's to both CLE and TPA
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:33 am

Also not to be picky but at one time EA's service to SJU was operated by an 1011
 
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:33 am

EA had L1011s and A300s out of BOS to MIA, SJU, LGA, EWR and other cities over the years - in the early 1980s, the BOS-LGA shuttle was operated by the A300B2s (ex-IranAir aircraft - strange huh?).

CO did fly DC10s for a short period of time on the BOS-DEN route.

TW flew L1011s and 767s to ORD, STL, LAX and SFO, its likely that 747s flew the transcon flights out of BOS in the early 1970s.

NW had DC10s on the BOS-Detroit route, when BOS was a transatlantic gateway for NW.

I am sure there are more, these come to mind.
 
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:34 am

UA also had a D10 on the BDL-BOS-SFO-BOS-BDL route.
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:36 am

I flew a 767 from ORD to BOS in 1992. Guess that must be too late for your list.
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:38 am

I have flown on the Delta 767-200, 767-300, and L1011 between CVG and Boston.

In addition, TWA used to fly the 767-300 from Boston to JFK.

It's not really domestic, but Delta used to fly the 763 from Boston to Montréal (a route that I found very strange.)
 
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:39 am

The BDL/BOS DL service with L10 was a stop on BDL/BOS/BDA/BOS/BDL.
 
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:43 am

Tw flew flight #16 SFO-LAX-EWR-BOS summer season 1978,1979 and 1980 with a 1011 plus TW#44 flew SFO-JFK-BOS yr round with 1011's
 
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:27 am

As late as 1996 American used to fly 767-200's between LAX and BOS which would go onto/come in from London Heathrow.

At times American will use an Airbus down to San Juan or Miami from Boston, though this was more common in the late-90's.

I pulled up my May, 1985 AA timetable:

LAX-BOS: D10 (2)
ORD-BOS: 767 (1), D10 (2)
DFW-BOS: D10 (2), 767 (1)
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:57 am

From the July 1, 1976 OAG:

ORD-BOS 1x AA D10
ORD-BOS 2x UA D10
ORD-BOS 2x TW L10
DEN-BOS 1x UA D10
BDL-BOS 1x EA L10
LAX-BOS 1x AA D10
LAX-BOS 1x TW L10
JFK-BOS 1x TW L10
JFK-BOS 2x AA D10
PHL-BOS 1x LH 747*
PHL-BOS 1x BA 747*
SFO-BOS 1x TW L10
SFO-BOS 1x UA D10
SJU-BOS 1x EA L10
IAD-BOS 1x AA D10

* Conditional Stopover Traffic Only
 
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:06 am

Quoting Zrs70 (Reply 3):
AA had DC10's to both BUF and DTW at one point.

Are you sure?

From a random date in the 1970's, American had these widebody flights from Boston:

ORD-747/once daily
LAX-747/twice daily
JFK-D10/once daily
PHL-D10/once daily

Trans World Airlines (TWA), again from a random point in the 1970's:

ORD-L10/once daily (LAS)
LAX-L10/once daily
SFO-L10/once daily
LHR-747/once daily
JFK-L10/once daily (LAX)

Eastern:

MCO-AB3/once daily
EWR-L10/twice daily (SJU)
EWR-AB3/once daily

Northwest Orient: (various points)

ORD-D10/once daily
MKE-D10/once daily
LGW-747/once daily
MSP-D10/twice daily
SNN-747/four weekly
EWR-D10/once daily
DTW-D10/once daily
IAD-D10/once daily

Delta:

ATL-L10/twice daily
BDA-L10/once daily
FLL-L10/once daily
YUL-L10/thrice daily
JFK-L10/once daily
PHL-L10/once daily
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:22 am

On that same "random point in time" theme...

At one time there was at TW L10 EWR-BOS (early morning flight).
 
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:24 am

I believe at one time TW offered NS Bos-Las 1011 service
 
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:36 am

All the way up till around and after 9/11, AA and UA were flying 767s on BOS-LAX. A sad thing to remember is that both 762s that hit the towers were flying BOS-LAX
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:59 am

Here's a little gem that popped up a few times: TWA's 747-SP (yep!) on a BOS-LAX routing. The plane servicing the route would come in from Rome.

Another: World Airways DC-10s from Newark/BWI and Oakland

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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:04 am

Quoting Zrs70 (Reply 3):
AA had DC10's to both BUF and DTW at one point.

Are you sure?

AA flight 371 BOS-DTW-ORD

AA flight 372 DAL-ORD-DTW-BOS

From the june 1973 timetable
 
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:36 am

Quoting Dtw9 (Reply 18):
Quoting Zrs70 (Reply 3):
AA had DC10's to both BUF and DTW at one point.

Are you sure?

AA flight 371 BOS-DTW-ORD

AA flight 372 DAL-ORD-DTW-BOS

From the june 1973 timetable

I questioned the BOS-BUF route....I think AA discontinued this route around '72-'73...before that, it was double-daily with a 707.

AA served BUF with a D10, but not from BOS, it was LGA.
2 of the 7 daily flights...the rest were 727.
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:09 am

Quoting Stirling [I questioned the BOS-BUF route....I think AA discontinued this route around '72-'73...before that, it was double-daily with a 707.]

You are correct. But as of June 1 1973 they were still operating

Flight 351-BOS-BUF-DTW-ORD
Flight 479-BOS-BUF-DTW-DAL-PHX

Both flights operated with 707's
 
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:12 am

AA flew SAN-BOS for a very short time (no more than two months) in winter 2003, I believe.

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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:07 am

Quoting Trvlr (Reply 21):
AA flew SAN-BOS for a very short time (no more than two months) in winter 2003, I believe.

they still do fly it, its a daily non-stop flights currently operated with a
757-200.
 
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:11 am

I believe in the 90's BOS-SAN was with a 767. Also BOS-SFO was a 762 until AA downsized it to a 757. I miss the 3-Class 762 flights from BOS.
 
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:25 am

DL used to also run a 767 CVG-BOS and BOS-CVG, I think it was up until 1999 regularly, then some occasional appearances 1999-2001 or so.
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:37 am

in Aug 1981 NW flew a DC-10 on a MKE-CLE-BOS-Europe-BOS-CLE-MKE route. it was flight 48 eastbound and flight 49 westbound. this same period also saw NW 747 service MSP-BOS-Europe-BOS-MSP.

AA flew DC-10's on a BOS-CLE-LAX-CLE-BOS routing. it was flight 37 westbound and 38 eastbound. eastbound was a red-eye.


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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:14 pm

AA also served the BOS-SJC with an occasional scheduled M11
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:07 pm

Flights 222 and 223 over thanksgiving are running 767-200's BOS to LAX instead of the normal 757.

Very cool indeed  Smile


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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:32 pm

Yes, J cabin wil be sold as either F or Y. I have seen both.
 
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:05 pm

Quoting Zrs70 (Reply 26):
AA also served the BOS-SJC with an occasional scheduled M11

True. The BOS-SJC flight was a continuation of the NRT-SJC flight. BOS-MIA occasionally saw the M11...a couple times a month before the fleet started getting phased out.

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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:16 pm

Perhaps the most surprising runs were those 767s and L-1011s that Delta used between Boston and Montreal. Tell someone that you remember when Delta used to fly these big aircraft on that run, and they'll tell you you're probably a few sandwiches shy of a picnic. But that's the way things were 'back then.' And 757s from Portland, Maine to Boston (!). Not a widebody, but a 757 out of Portland looks mighty impressive compared with today: DL mainline is gone from PWM altogether.

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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:26 pm

I haven't seen any reference to MD11's on this thread. I remember seeing AA MD11's at BOS circa 1991. Can anyone confirm that?
 
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:28 pm

Quoting Airbazar (Reply 31):
I haven't seen any reference to MD11's on this thread. I remember seeing AA MD11's at BOS circa 1991. Can anyone confirm that?

A few posts up:

Quoting Zrs70 (Reply 26):
AA also served the BOS-SJC with an occasional scheduled M11
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:29 pm

Quoting Trvlr (Reply 21):

AA flew SAN-BOS for a very short time (no more than two months) in winter 2003, I believe.

AA has flown, and still does fly, SAN-BOS for years.
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:35 pm

USAir ran the B767-200ER on BOS-CLT, as a continuation of their BOS-FRA flight. Not sure if they've run it on BOS-PIT or not.
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:38 pm

The BOS/YUL route was one of many New England routes that Delta obtained when they bought Northeast. (Yellowbirds)!
 
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:23 am

Quoting A330323X (Reply 34):
USAir ran the B767-200ER on BOS-CLT, as a continuation of their BOS-FRA flight. Not sure if they've run it on BOS-PIT or not.

They did have a 762 or 333 that went PIT-BOS-FRA and FRA-BOS-PIT. This was before my time, I have just heard other people talk about it. My understanding is that is did not last that long.
 
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:26 am

Quoting Jdwfloyd (Reply 36):
They did have a 762 or 333 that went PIT-BOS-FRA and FRA-BOS-PIT. This was before my time, I have just heard other people talk about it. My understanding is that is did not last that long.

I thought so, just wasn't sure. BOS-FRA was always a 762.
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:36 am

I think Northeastern International flew the A300 BOS-ISP-Florida.
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:40 am

Quoting A330323X (Reply 34):
USAir ran the B767-200ER on BOS-CLT, as a continuation of their BOS-FRA flight. Not sure if they've run it on BOS-PIT or not.

I thought it was LAX-PIT-FRA that was a 762.
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:51 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 39):
I thought it was LAX-PIT-FRA that was a 762.

They've run LAX-PIT (and LAX-PHL/CLT) as a 762 plenty of times, I wouldn't be surprised if it continued on to PIT-FRA at some point. I know they ran LAX-PHL-FCO on a 762 in the beginning.

But this thread was about widebody service at BOS.  Wink
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:55 am

I think EA used the A300 on the "Midnight Express" out of BOS via IAH to the west coast. Not positive on this one, though.
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:56 am

Quoting A330323X (Reply 40):
But this thread was about widebody service at BOS.

LOL, I know, I just remember seeing a same flight number 762 for a long time on LAX-PIT-FRA and was trying to see if this was the case.
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:02 am

Quoting Cs03 (Reply 35):
The BOS/YUL route was one of many New England routes that Delta obtained when they bought Northeast. (Yellowbirds)!

True, but with NE's largest plane at the time (1972) of the merger was the 727-200; it probably didn't see widebody service (from DL) until after the merger.

NE's order of 3 L1011s was cancelled at the time of the merger, and hence, never saw service.
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:11 am

When the 333 service first started I believe that for a short time it went thru BOS.
 
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:35 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 42):
LOL, I know, I just remember seeing a same flight number 762 for a long time on LAX-PIT-FRA and was trying to see if this was the case.

If you remember it, then it probably was.

Quoting Jdwfloyd (Reply 44):
When the 333 service first started I believe that for a short time it went thru BOS.

BOS-FRA was only operated with the B767-200ER. The route was cancelled a good while before US received any A330-300s.

Aside from the occasional repositioning flight between the hubs, the only scheduled domestic flight to have seen the A330-300 was PHL-MIA.
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:44 am

I recalled seeing Delta DC-10s at Logan. Before Delta was able to get their L-1011s, they used the DC-10 as an interim aircraft to fill the need. This was back in the very early 1970s when Lockheed was having a tough time with Roll-Royce and getting engines.

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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:25 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 33):



Quoting BOSPMV (Reply 22):

Sorry, I was referring to widebody aircraft on the route. A 767-200 operated SAN-BOS for a short time in 2003.

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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:01 am

FIRST, I find it very sad that a lot of these flights have been downgraded from widebodies to regional jets while air traffic volume has INCREASED!  Sad  Sad

Quoting Zrs70 (Thread starter):
BDA: DL L10

BDA is clearly international flight (albeit not that long)

Quoting Cmk10 (Reply 11):
At times American will use an Airbus down to San Juan or Miami from Boston, though this was more common in the late-90's.

One of the daily BOS-MIA flights is now operated by an A300 again!  Smile
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RE: Former BOS Widebody Domestic Routes

Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:21 am

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 30):
Tell someone that you remember when Delta used to fly these big aircraft on that run, and they'll tell you you're probably a few sandwiches shy of a picnic.

I remember this well, and the flights were often packed! The traffic decreased dramatically mid 90s, around the time of the separatist referendum in Quebec. BOS-YUL went from a 763 to a CRJ market.
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