SafetyDude
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What Planes Does DL Have On Order?

Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:45 am

Hi all,
I read an article (http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/business/industries/aviation/12690088.htm) that says Delta has 55 planes on order. I know some of them are T7s, but what else do they on order?

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RE: What Planes Does DL Have On Order?

Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:06 am

 
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RE: What Planes Does DL Have On Order?

Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:33 am

Looking at that page, DL fleet is in good shape should they desire to cut back in BK. They OWN the planes they would want to keep, and lease the ones they would want to dump, including the older 737s, many MD88s, many CRJ1/200s, non-ER 763s, etc. Frankly a much better position than a NW, who owns so many of their oldest, least efficient planes.
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RE: What Planes Does DL Have On Order?

Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:56 am

The website states that DL has 8 x 772s in service. These should actually be 777-232ERs.

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RE: What Planes Does DL Have On Order?

Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:58 am

Didnt DL arrange that for the 738s on order that they had already arranged for them to be either sold or leased out to another airline without even being delivered to DL themselves?
 
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RE: What Planes Does DL Have On Order?

Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:22 am

Quoting Broncoguy (Reply 4):
Didnt DL arrange that for the 738s on order that they had already arranged for them to be either sold or leased out to another airline without even being delivered to DL themselves?

Some of them, and it actually says that in their corporate financial statements. DL has deferred the remainder of the 738 deliveries, along with the 777s. If DL has no use for these aircraft at the time of planned delivery they will most probably arrange to sell them at that time. At least new 738s and 772ERs with RR engines are in fairly good demand.
 
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RE: What Planes Does DL Have On Order?

Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:40 am

I believe several DL new build 738's went to China/India over the last couple of months. Not sure on the quantity.
 
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RE: What Planes Does DL Have On Order?

Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:44 am

Quoting Broncoguy (Reply 4):
Didnt DL arrange that for the 738s on order that they had already arranged for them to be either sold or leased out to another airline without even being delivered to DL themselves?

Yes, all 11 738s they were scheduled to take delivery of this year, sold to a leasing company I had not heard of before (and honestly don't even remember). IIRC, some of those 738s are flying with Ryanair and Hainan these days.
 
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RE: What Planes Does DL Have On Order?

Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:56 am

Can someone answer me why Delta, and any airline for that matter, would defer deliveries of airplanes? I always thought they payed for the planes upfront, but I'm getting the vibe that they pay for them on an individual basis. Is this correct?
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RE: What Planes Does DL Have On Order?

Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:11 am

I think the 21 leased 733's will be the first planes to go along with the FRJ-328, which 30 are leased. The 733's I believe are pushing 20 years old, probably have a lot of cycles, old WA aircraft. The FRJ-328's are left over from the Atlantic Coast deal. Are they of any use now? How about the small fleet of 12 ATR-72, of which 8 are leased, those might be a canidate to go. Shows 75 planes on order, 51 738, 5 772ER, 19 CRJ 100/200. I would think they would cancel the CRJ order, do they realy need more RJ's ?
 
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RE: What Planes Does DL Have On Order?

Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:16 am

Quoting Db373 (Reply 8):
I always thought they payed for the planes upfront, but I'm getting the vibe that they pay for them on an individual basis. Is this correct?

IIRC from the Boeing Factory tour that I took a few years ago, 1/3rd is paid upon ordering, 1/3rd when it goes to the paint shop, and the final 1/3rd when it's delivered. I might be wrong though, but I do know they are not 100% up front.
 
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RE: What Planes Does DL Have On Order?

Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:40 am

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 7):

Yes, all 11 738s they were scheduled to take delivery of this year, sold to a leasing company I had not heard of before (and honestly don't even remember).

IIRC, the company was called Lombard Aviation.

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