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CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:46 am

I don't thimk anyone has noted this yet, but CO will launch EWR-BCN as CO120/121 in May of 06. 757, of coarse.
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:03 am

wow.. that's really cool. I can't believe AA canceled their JFK-BCN launch, now CO is ahead, like always.
Again, i am impressed that a 757 could do that route.
My best friend just flew EWR-OSL-EWR and wasn't to thrilled with the single aisle plane for 7 hours without PTV.
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:06 am

sounds... good, can imagine CO will get some conecting passengers to Latin-Ameria with that new flight from BCN....

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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:14 am

Where did you get this information from?

I don't doubt you (the route seems to make a lot of sense for CO), but I would just like to see some sort of official source.
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:24 am

Wow, that is great!

Wish AA would do it from here in MIA, but I know, it just doesn't make sense.

Visited BCN for a week just last month. It is a fantastic city!
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:40 am

Im getting married in October '06 and was thinking of taking my Bride to be on a Honeymoon cruise from Barcelona, this would be perfect.
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:45 am

Good news !

Was traveling last week-end to BCN from JFK with DL... and was wondering if there is an alternative to DL as I had experienced my worst check-in at JFK Terminal 3. Also DL return flight from BCN is in the morning, hope CO will schedule BCN-EWR in the afternoon, letting more time to spend in BCN  Wink
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:28 pm

Quoting Mindscape (Reply 6):
hope CO will schedule BCN-EWR in the afternoon

The flight schedule is as follows:

CO120 Newark-Barcelona 2020-1020+1 75B
CO121 Barcelona-Newark 1200-1445 75B

Not sure when the first flight is though.

Does anyone think the equip. for the MAD flight will be downgraded due to this new route?

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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:52 pm

Quoting Xkorpyoh (Reply 1):
wow.. that's really cool. I can't believe AA canceled their JFK-BCN launch, now CO is ahead, like always.
Again, i am impressed that a 757 could do that route.

Of course the 757 can do this TW did it not to long ago when they were still around except from JFK.
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:42 pm

Quoting Xkorpyoh (Reply 1):
My best friend just flew EWR-OSL-EWR and wasn't to thrilled with the single aisle plane for 7 hours without PTV.

The alternative would be a one stop connection as nobody else is flying this route. So you have the choice.
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:46 pm

If I'm right, CO120/121 is currently the second daily MAN-EWR flight is it not?
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:21 pm

GKirk

The 2nd daily MAN flts are 100/101

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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:24 pm

Quoting CB777 (Reply 11):
The 2nd daily MAN flts are 100/101

My bad. The 1st MAN flights are CO20/21 so thats where I got mixed up  Wink
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:26 pm

The flight starts on May 17, 2006. Hopefully the first of many new international destinations for CO in 06!!
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:30 pm

Prior to this the highest trans-A numbers were 106/107 and 108/109 the late bank to GLA and EDI, so 120/121 skips a few, not sure if this "means" anything. Perhaps now that CO is solidly into the 100s,the numbers will be pulled at random as they used to be from the 10s.


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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:01 pm

great! Seems that BCN-NYC route is doing quite well, and add US to PHL...

Is possible that Delta is planing to pull out their NYC flight for the next summer season?

The return of the long haulers in BCN!!! Big grin
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:06 pm

BCN is one market I was surprised that CO did not enter earlier. I'm glad to see they are adding this market.

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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:16 pm

Quoting Mighluss (Reply 15):
Is possible that Delta is planing to pull out their NYC flight for the next summer season?

Why would DL want to do that? They've been in the market for quite a few years now (and added ATL-BCN in a few years ago as well) and they have been doing very well with it during most of the year...
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:47 pm

It Is Official:

Continental Airlines Announces Daily Nonstop Service Between New York and Barcelona, Spain
Only Year-Round, Nonstop Service Between New York and Barcelona to Begin in May 2006
NEW YORK, Sept 21, 2005 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX News Network/ -- Continental Airlines (NYSE: CAL) announced today that it will begin daily nonstop service between its New York hub at Newark Liberty International Airport and Barcelona, Spain beginning May 18, 2006, subject to government approval. This service will be the only year-round, nonstop flight between the U.S. and Barcelona.

"We look forward to adding Barcelona to our trans-Atlantic route network and offering travelers something none of our competitors can match -- award winning, year-round service to Barcelona, with quick and easy same-airline, same-terminal connections from cities throughout the Americas," said Jim Summerford, Continental's vice president, Europe, Middle East and India.

Barcelona will become the 26th city in Continental's trans-Atlantic route network. The airline has served Madrid since 1992 and currently operates a daily Boeing 777 nonstop service between Madrid and New York/Newark.

Flight CO120 will depart Newark Liberty International Airport daily at 8:20 p.m., arriving in Barcelona at 10:20 a.m. the next day. Flight CO121 will depart Barcelona daily at 12 p.m. arriving in New York/Newark at 2:45 p.m. the same day. Flying times will be approximately eight hours traveling east and eight hours and 45 minutes traveling west.

Continental's New York/Newark to Barcelona flights will be operated with a 172-seat Boeing 757-200 aircraft carrying 16 passengers in the BusinessFirst cabin and 156 in the economy class.

Continental and Air Europa of Spain code-share on Air Europa-operated flights between Madrid and Barcelona, Malaga and Palma de Mallorca and on Continental-operated flights between Madrid and New York/Newark and between New York/Newark and 25 U.S. cities. A marketing agreement provides for frequent flyer program reciprocity between the two airlines.

This premium-class cabin features extra-wide electronic sleeper seats with 56-inch pitch, adjustable winged headrests and personal video screens. Other BusinessFirst amenities include gourmet menus and award-winning wines and champagnes. A specially selected and trained corps of concierges provides individualized pre-flight and post-flight services for BusinessFirst customers at 26 key international airports worldwide.

The new flights will feature Continental's renowned BusinessFirst service, which has won the Best Executive/Business Class award in the OAG Airline of the Year in each of the past three years (2005, 2004 and 2003), based on voting by frequent flyers worldwide. BusinessFirst was also voted Best Transatlantic Business Class among U.S. airlines in Conde Nast Traveler magazine's Business Travel Awards 2004 -- the seventh year running.

Barcelona, with a population of 5.1 million, is one of the 10 largest metropolitan areas in Europe and one of Spain's largest industrial centers. Major industries include manufacturing, particularly textiles and motor vehicles, consumer electronics, chemical and pharmaceutical research, design, publishing and advertising.

Barcelona is also famed for its unique cultural identity, from the architecture of Gaudi to the historic Gothic district with its Roman and Medieval remains. More than 3.8 million tourists visited the city in 2003. Barcelona hosted more than 1,150 conventions and corporate meetings in 2004, bringing in 360,000 visitors.

Continental Airlines is the world's sixth-largest airline. Continental, together with Continental Express and Continental Connection, has more than 3,100 daily departures throughout the Americas, Europe and Asia, serving 150 domestic and 131 international destinations, more than any other carrier in the world. Nearly 400 additional points are served via SkyTeam alliance airlines, which include Aeromexico, Air France/KLM, Alitalia, CSA Czech Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Korean Air and Northwest Airlines. With 41,000 employees, Continental has hubs serving New York, Houston, Cleveland and Guam, and together with Continental Express, carries approximately 56 million passengers per year. Continental consistently earns awards and critical acclaim for both its operation and its corporate culture.

For the second consecutive year, FORTUNE magazine named Continental the No. 1 Most Admired Global Airline on its 2005 list of Most Admired Global Companies. Continental was also included in the publication's annual "Top 50" list, which ranks all companies, across a wide variety of industries, that appear in the Global Most Admired Companies issue. Continental again won major awards at the 2005 OAG Airline of the Year Awards including "Airline of the Year" and "Best Airline Based in North America" for the second consecutive year, and "Best Executive/Business Class" for the third consecutive year. For more company information, visit continental.com.

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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:54 pm

Congratulations to CO on this terrific new route!! I too love Barcelona it's a great, fun and beautiful city. If they have one to spare at times, I could see them operating a 762 on ocasion but I know their widebodies are in short supply.

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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:59 pm

Congrats to CO, though one would think they will soon run out of 757s  Silly .
Also, gotta wonder for how long CO will have "the only year-round, nonstop flight between the U.S. and Barcelona." I can see DL making either JFK-BCN or ATL-BCN year-round as a result of this.
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:18 pm

Is it about time for CO to anounounce the new 757 European city? The means BCN is the first of how many?
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:23 pm

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 20):
I can see DL making either JFK-BCN or ATL-BCN year-round as a result of this.

Maybe, but DL is going to have a rough time profitably fillling a nonstop 763 in the winter to BCN.
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:25 pm

Great to see BCN is having long hauls again...
If everything goes as planned, we should have next May JFK, ATL, EWR, EZE, SCL,PVG, KHI, DXB,BOG  spin 
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:28 pm

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 22):
Maybe, but DL is going to have a rough time profitably fillling a nonstop 763 in the winter to BCN.

Well, technically DL does fly nonstop JFK-BCN year-round (just not BCN-JFK nonstop, that's all) Big grin. During the winter. MAD and BCN are combined as DL90 JFK-BCN-MAD-JFK. ATL-BCN is seasonal though.
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:29 pm

Quoting Ti717 (Reply 21):
Is it about time for CO to anounounce the new 757 European city? The means BCN is the first of how many?

Hopefully only the 1st of more to come for 06? Any guesses to any other CO startups? How about WAW...SVO...ATH....HEL....NCL....to name a few.
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:31 pm

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 8):
Of course the 757 can do this TW did it not to long ago when they were still around except from JFK.

3329nm is certainly well within the range of the CO 752, but I do believe TW's 757 to Europe was to LIS
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:32 pm

Quoting GNDOPS (Reply 25):
Hopefully only the 1st of more to come for 06? Any guesses to any other CO startups? How about WAW...SVO...ATH....HEL....NCL....to name a few.

Moscow is quite sure to become a new european destination. Flights to DME and not to SVO  Wink

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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:34 pm

Quoting Ti717 (Reply 21):
Is it about time for CO to anounounce the new 757 European city? The means BCN is the first of how many?

From what I was told at work by management there is to be a total of three new 757 cities to be announced for start-up in 2006. This is in addition to one 767 city. Stay tuned.
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:38 pm

Quoting GNDOPS (Reply 25):
Any guesses to any other CO startups? How about WAW...SVO...ATH....HEL....NCL....to name a few.

Well, AA has beaten CO to it as far as NCL is concerned, but in terms of new UK routes for CO how about STN, CWL, LBA, LPL, EMA, ABZ?
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:46 pm

How about CLE-AMS or CLE-CDG.
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:48 pm

They would probably be better served upgrading a 762 with ptvs, etc. I flew PHL-BCN in August on a 762 in Envoy and I definately appreciated the bigger plane for the longer flight...remember its even longer coming home.
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:48 pm

Quoting Ti717 (Reply 21):
The means BCN is the first of how many?

Moscow (DME) with a 767-200 it's almost a definete.

Other possibilities:

Prague, Copenhagen, Nice, Lyon, Venice, Munich, Newcastle, Basel.
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:48 pm

Quoting Damian (Reply 29):
ABZ?

I guess they could use a 73G on this one. Not sure though...
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:52 pm

Quoting ARGinLON (Reply 33):
I guess they could use a 73G on this one. Not sure though...

Would probably be really pushing it on the 73G.

I think IAH rather than EWR would also be preferred for ABZ, given the oil connections, although ABZ would need a serious runway extension to allow this non-stop.
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:53 pm

Quoting Damian (Reply 29):
Well, AA has beaten CO to it as far as NCL is concerned, but in terms of new UK routes for CO how about STN, CWL, LBA, LPL, EMA, ABZ?

In the UK I would think from EWR they may do ABZ (this one could be flown with B737-700), STN (back up for LGW) and LBA (back-up for MAN). CWL may be too close to Bristol, LPL too close to MAN; EMA - I don't know if it would work but NCL may be a good one (B737-700 OK there?).
B767 IAH - GLA and IAH - MAN may work too - even if not daily, if they add a 3rd IAH - London few days a week this one could be to STN.

Now that they're adding BCN, maybe is time they check VLC, APG, Bilbao and Santiago Compostela; Plus B767 IAH - MAD (even if not daily).
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:58 pm

CO should consider Cork in Ireland for an EWR 752 service. Also, Lyon in France, Copenhagen in Denmark, Stuttgart in Germany, Athens in Greece, Istanbul in Turkey and Moscow in Russia all have potential for CO service.

Newcastle in the UK is out now that AA are to fly to New York. NCL-NYC could not support 2 daily flights.

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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:06 am

Not to sound foolish but which is the busier airport in Moscow in terms of commercial traffic? I know that a lot of flights go into SVO but with people mentioning CO flying from EWR-DME what is DME's status as an airport? Thank you all.  wave 

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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:17 am

Quoting DeltaGuy767 (Reply 37):
Not to sound foolish but which is the busier airport in Moscow in terms of commercial traffic? I know that a lot of flights go into SVO but with people mentioning CO flying from EWR-DME what is DME's status as an airport? Thank you all

I believe SVO is the very old one where most of the airlines fly to. DME is far newer and more functional
The issue is that most of Skyteam carriers fly to SVO
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:23 am

Quoting HUYfan (Reply 36):
CO should consider Cork in Ireland for an EWR 752 service. Also, Lyon in France, Copenhagen in Denmark, Stuttgart in Germany, Athens in Greece, Istanbul in Turkey and Moscow in Russia all have potential for CO service.

Well according to Reply#28, a total of 3 757 routes and 1 762 route will be announced for '06. As many have stated, the 762 is probably for EWR-DME. 1 of the 757s is EWR-BCN, which leaves 2 757 routes. This essentially rules out both ATH and IST due to range issues. MUC would be a stretch as well though STR should be OK. CPH is a real possibility as is NCE but the latter cannot support two carriers on a year-round basis. LYS is possible for the 757 but the market is quite weak on premium traffic...any other guesses?
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:29 am

Quoting Panamair (Reply 39):
any other guesses?

How about Cologne, Germany, and Toulouse, France?
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:33 am

Great news for BCN even if i don't like narrowbodies for long-haul. I heard months ago the possibility of a IAH-MAD with a 767, any news about that?
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:24 am

I think EWR-ATH might be a good one although it is a pretty long route... how about EWR-IST? EWR-BUD?

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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:31 am

Quoting ARGinLON (Reply 38):
I believe SVO is the very old one where most of the airlines fly to. DME is far newer and more functional
The issue is that most of Skyteam carriers fly to SVO

Thanks,
So is there a plan for Skyteam to move to DME or will they remain at SVO?

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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:34 am

That should do well for them. That's the only thing I hate about CO- they keep taking these 752's to all this cities in Europe. gah!
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:46 am

Continental and in a near future PIA

It seems that BCN is getting more and more relevance.

And IB thinks on eliminating many international routes!!! If they don't defend BCN, it will be really a shame.

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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:22 am

Quoting Mbm3 (Reply 18):
Barcelona, with a population of 5.1 million, is one of the 10 largest metropolitan areas in Europe and one of Spain's largest industrial centers. Major industries include manufacturing, particularly textiles and motor vehicles, consumer electronics, chemical and pharmaceutical research, design, publishing and advertising.

Barcelona, 5.1 millions ???????? Is that a joke ? Also counting Tarragona and Girona, may be Castellon and Valencia ...

Quoting STT757 (Reply 32):
Other possibilities:

Prague, Copenhagen, Nice, Lyon, Venice, Munich, Newcastle, Basel.



Quoting HUYfan (Reply 36):
CO should consider Cork in Ireland for an EWR 752 service. Also, Lyon in France, Copenhagen in Denmark, Stuttgart in Germany, Athens in Greece, Istanbul in Turkey and Moscow in Russia all have potential for CO service.

Moscow is possible ... but need at least a 762. Don't forgive Aeroflot will soon be a member of skyteam.

Quoting Damian (Reply 40):
How about Cologne, Germany, and Toulouse, France?

Well, the only serious chance of a second French city is LYS ... But i think Lyon is a bit too close to GVA ... Please guys, don't forgive MRS Sad Sad
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:31 am

Quoting YULMRS (Reply 46):
Moscow is possible ... but need at least a 762. Don't forgive Aeroflot will soon be a member of skyteam.

It isn't just "possible", it is happening. Unless something change on the 13th hour, CO is launching Moscow/DME-Newark in April, daily 767-200ER. In fact, it should be made official within a month.
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:33 am

Quoting STT757 (Reply 32):
Prague, Copenhagen, Nice, Lyon, Venice, Munich, Newcastle, Basel.

It seems to me that Prague , Venice and Munich are the better choices for CO.
 
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RE: CO To Fly EWR-BCN

Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:51 am

Note Continental is advertising a 56" pitch on the transatlantic 757s, a modest improvement of 1" with the new seats.

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