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Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:13 pm

Hey guys and gals -

I'm heading to Las Vegas soon and was thinking about taking a road trip to see one or two of the airplane graveyards.

Can someone tell me where they are all located? I can only think of Victorville, CA and Marana, AZ....

Any help MUCH appreciated!

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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:28 pm

Kingman, AZ
Mohave, CA
Victorville, CA
Marana, AZ
Tucson, AZ (as well as Davis-Monthan AFB here, incredible!)
Roswell, NM

That's the main lot on the west coast.
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:40 pm

Victorville has some strange birds. Also Vegas has a small lot south of the strip where they had a bunch...don't remember if it was at LAS or near LAS.

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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:01 pm

Quoting IRelayer (Reply 2):
. Also Vegas has a small lot south of the strip where they had a bunch...don't remember if it was at LAS or near LAS.

Not any more, being built into private hangers by the Molasky Group. Have not seen any storage in Vegas for a while now, used to be some old props at Henderson Executive (formally Sky Harbor), also Boulder City airport if you are heading out to Kingman. Used to be able to walk around with the planes at Kingman, pre 9/11, not sure if thats still allowed.  Wink
 
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:11 pm

Quoting Expatmatt (Thread starter):
I'm heading to Las Vegas soon and was thinking about taking a road trip to see one or two of the airplane graveyards.

Keep in mind, almost all of them do not allow you on the property to take pictures. If you noticed most of the pictures here were taken at great distance or from the air. I have seen it mentioned here that one or two places offer tours limited to a van driving around.

[Edited 2005-09-23 12:23:12]
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:47 pm

Might want to add Greenwood, Mississippi to the list. About a two hour ride
from Memphis.
 
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:44 pm

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 4):
Keep in mind, almost all of them do not allow you on the property to take pictures.

I tried to get in at the storage facility that's close to PHX (don't know the name) and was told to go away. You can see most planes from the main road but you are too far away too take any good pics... and once you get near the entrance, the bushes around are too high.

Keep us posted if you make it into the any storage near Vegas. I'll be flying to LAS today... so I'll probably take a drive sometime this weekend.

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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:57 pm

I dont know, but there was this graveyard, I went through in Maryland, near APG or Edgewood Arsenal. and all the planes were practically in the middle of a forest. many vietnam era fighters (Super Sabres, Thunderchiefs, Phantoms) and Huey helicopters, also a DC-4 or DC-6 not sure, and some C-47. It was like 10 years ago, but quite surprised they had one up in North Maryland, cause most are out west. but what made it so interesting was that it was summer and the forest was lush almost like jungle and most of the planes were still in SE Asia camouflage, making it feel like I was in the backyard of some Vietnam Airport after 1975, even it was 1995. I was on base pass, so I dont think public can see it.
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:57 pm

Quoting DENplanenut (Reply 6):
Quoting EMBQA (Reply 4):
Keep in mind, almost all of them do not allow you on the property to take pictures.

I tried to get in at the storage facility that's close to PHX (don't know the name) and was told to go away.

Most likely, you're talking about the Goodyear, AZ airport. There are a lot fewer planes there now than just a few years ago. Anything worth flying again is now back in service with some carrier.
 
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:11 pm

There is GoodYear AZ. just west of PHX but thats more of a parking lot than a graveyard. Its good to view over 100 birds. We have never been "run" from GoodYear.

Marana, Pima Air Park, is only good from a distance so bring a gooooooood lens.
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:26 pm

Can anyone tell me why we dont have any graveyard for planes like that in Europe? Atleast not to my knowledge..
 
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:11 am

How about San Bernardino?
Last year there was some writing about SBD as a future storage facility. My source was pe.com. Has these ideas terminated?

A few places that could be of interest could be Chandler - Memorial Airfield (34AZ), Coolidge - Coolidge Municipal Airport (P08 / KP08), Marana (Tucson) - Northwest Regional (Avra Valley) (AVW / AVQ) & Ryan Airfield (RYN).
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:16 am

We do not have big places like MHV or VCV in Europe, but there may be planes of interest at the following airports (quick list from my personal notes):

Belgium:
- Brussels - National (Zaventem) / Melsbroek (BRU / EBBR / EBMB)
- Ostend / Bruges (OST / EBOS)

France:
- Annecy - LFLP
- Bordeaux - Merignac (BOD / LFBD)
- Chalons - Vatry (XCR / LFOK)
- Chateauroux - Deols (Marcel Dassault) (CHR / LFLX)
- Dinard / St. Malo - Pleurtuit (DNR / LFRD)
- Perpignan - Rivesaltes (Llabanere) (PGF / LFMP)
- St. Nazaire - Montoir (SNR / LFRZ)

Netherlands:
- Bergen op Zoom - Woensdrecht (WOE / BZM / EHWO)

UK:
England
- Bournemouth - Int. (Hurn) (BOH / EGHH)
- Bristol - Filton (FZO / EGTG)
- Bruntingthorpe
- Cambridge - EGSC
- Cardiff (- Rhoose / Wales) (CWL / EGFF)
- East Midlands (Nottingham) - Castle Donington (EMA / EGNX)
- Kemble (EGBP)
- Lasham (QLA / EGHL)
- Manchester - Woodford (EGCD)
- Norwich - Horsham St. Faith (NWI / EGSH)
- Southend - Rochford (SEN / EGMC)
Scotland
- Glasgow - Prestwick (PIK / EGPK)

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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:45 am

Thanks everyone for the info -- doesn't look too promising for this trip to visit any of the graveyards. Maybe one of the Grand Canyon-type sightseeing flights would be my best bed...

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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:48 am

Well, don't forget the biggest in the world:

Davis Monthan AFB, Tucson.

I know it's mainly military but lots of civil stuff there (old 707's etc)


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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:09 am

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 10):
Can anyone tell me why we dont have any graveyard for planes like that in Europe? Atleast not to my knowledge..

I always figured it was because you need a large empty area in the dry desert air that has proximity to a large landing strip.

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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:45 am

Quoting Cahiwa (Reply 15):
I always figured it was because you need a large empty area in the dry desert air that has proximity to a large landing strip.

Well how about Spain? They don't want it? I guess not
 
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:48 am

Two other airliner graveyards in the US:

Maxton-Laurinburg, NC (MXB/MEB)

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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:54 am

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 10):
Can anyone tell me why we dont have any graveyard for planes like that in Europe? Atleast not to my knowledge..

Maybe because Europe is the only continent on Earth that does not contain a desert :P

-IR

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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:57 am

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 14):
Well, don't forget the biggest in the world:

Davis Monthan AFB, Tucson.

I know it's mainly military but lots of civil stuff there (old 707's etc)


Jimbo

It should be added that the Davis-Monthan AFB boneyard is open to public tours through the Pima Air and Space Museum, it is about an hour driving through it although you are not allowed off the bus.
The PASM is worthwhile too, mostly military but they have a collection of VIP/Air Force 1 type planes including 707, a DC-6 Kennedy used and Ike's Connie "Columbine". Also on display outdoors are Stratocruisers/freighters, a Caravelle, and a TWA L-049. Well worth the $14.25 combined admission. Check them out at www.pimaair.org!

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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:15 am

You can find a lot of info on this site: http://www.cactuswings.com/storage/index.htm
 
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:09 am

To add to SMOKESCREEN, the bus tour does NOT operate on week-ends. If you get there on a week-day, its worth it. The narration is very informational.
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:21 am

Airliners.net has tons of photos taken at "graveyard" sites - plenty of them ...  thumbsup 
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:36 am

Quoting September11 (Reply 22):
Airliners.net has tons of photos taken at "graveyard" sites - plenty of them

..and your point...?
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:10 am

It should be noted that Ike used three different Connies. One (as previously mentioned) is displayed at the Pima Air and Space Museum. A second is on display at Wright-Pat at the USAF Museum. The third one is privately owned and hangared at Marana. It makes regular appearances on the air show circuit.
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:16 am

Is corrosion Corner at or near MIA an airliner graveyard?
And, back in the late 80's/early 90's Tom Petty did a video called Learning To Fly The background was a vista of sad corroding old prop liners. Where was this graveyard located?
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Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:19 am

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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:28 am

Corrosion corner at MIA is long gone.
 
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:21 pm

OPF has a similar area where they've got some DC-10s and DC-9s, as well as various other smaller aircraft and the occasional A320 or 757, though.
 
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:49 pm

Pima Air Park, is only good from a distance so bring a gooooooood lens.

Do you mean Pinal Air Park? It's about three miles off the highway between Phoenix and Tucson, can't remember how close. There were Korean, Northwest, and Lufthansa 747's and United 777's visible, amongst others. As mentioned, I couldn't get on to the airport. I wound up taking a shot from about a mile away.

Tucson airport is pretty good. When I was there in June, there were 3 Jetsgo MD-83's and a couple of Zip 737's there, along with a lot of Beech 1900's. You can get right up to the fence, and the airplanes are close - too close, in fact to get good photos.

Davis Monthan is worth the trip, it's only a five or ten minute drive away. Go to the Pima air museum and take the bus tour of DM. But also, drive around the DM fence a bit - there are scrap yards with all sorts of airplanes there - lots of US Navy stuff and old props when I was there. There's a Titan missile museum that's worth the trip, too - it's twenty miles or so south of Tucson, but you can get tickets at Pima.
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:14 pm

Fanofjets mentioned ADM/Ardmore, OK...you can skip here as the place that scrapped the UA 747SP/DC10s and CO 731s, etc. has closed up shop. I believe they've moved their ops to Opa Locka.

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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:30 pm

Does anyone know of a scrap yard or graveyard near NJ and NY and do they sell parts like gauges, cockpit pieces or engines ????
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:56 pm

Several years ago I recall seeing numerous airplanes parked at what appeared to be a bone yard off the interstate near Greybull, Wyoming. I think this is where they park the planes which are used to fight the western wildfires.

Not sure if these older birds are still in service
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:19 pm

EADS - Sogerma and SITA are to open an dismantling operation at Tarbes Airport , near Toulouse, France


http://www.flightinternational.com/A...s+aircraft+dismantling+centre.html


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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:01 am

Greybull is still housing some old planes: Greybull - South Big Horn County (GEY)
And they are (at least some of them) for sale at Zenith Aviation

Thanks Ivo for the news.  Smile

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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:56 am

How much does it cost to "store" a plane, and on what conditions do the planes have to be
 
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:07 am

There is a company based at Walnut Ridge, Arkansas (ARG) that does some scrapwork, they've scrapped several 737's, alot of WN 732's went there infact, some of the CO MD-80's went there, and G4 just picked up a spare MD-80 from AM which they flew there to be parted out. The city is going to expand the runways to accomodate larger aircraft which I get the hint means 757 and possibly 767 or larger.

Also, if Beech 1900D is your fantasy, there are heaping loads of them in storage at ABQ.
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:20 am

can you guys tell me all the graveyards that have delta airplanes??
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:40 am

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 37):
can you guys tell me all the graveyards that have delta airplanes??

deltal1011man,
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Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:45 am

is there any place that has dl planes other than vcv gyr???
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Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:46 am

is there any place that has dl planes other than vcv gyr???
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:07 am

Quoting Dc8jet (Reply 27):
Corrosion corner at MIA is long gone.

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A blast from the past!  crying 

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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:38 am

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 40):
is there any place that has dl planes other than vcv gyr???

Yeah, I saw a load at ATL last time I was there  Wink


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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:58 am

Quoting IRelayer (Reply 2):
Victorville has some strange birds. Also Vegas has a small lot south of the strip where they had a bunch...don't remember if it was at LAS or near LAS.

It was at LAS, though not so many there any more

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 1):
Kingman, AZ
Mohave, CA
Victorville, CA
Marana, AZ
Tucson, AZ (as well as Davis-Monthan AFB here, incredible!)
Roswell, NM

That's the main lot on the west coast.

Well, none of those are actually on the coast, and some are many hours from the coast. Goodyear, AZ can also be added to that list

Quoting RC135U (Reply 5):
Might want to add Greenwood, Mississippi to the list. About a two hour ride
from Memphis.

That is more of a chop shop than a boneyard, but I see your point

Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 9):
Marana, Pima Air Park, is only good from a distance so bring a gooooooood lens.

MZJ is Pinal Airpark, named after Pinal County, Arizona
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RE: Airplane Graveyard Locations?

Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:10 am

If you wanna go to MZJ Pinal Air Park, go to TUS and get the local flying club to take you there in a Cessna 172. You can at least do touch-and-goes, low approaches, and even land, taxi around take shots, and depart again.

Evergreen is there, and has a load of big stuff, B747's and such, but like said earlier, impossible to get close by road.

I forget the name of the outfit at TUS, but they were quite familiar with nutters like ourselves who wanted to do it.


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