iberiadc852
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Can You Imagine A World Of 2 (underwings) Holers?

Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:38 pm

Well, now that I have more space, I will explain the situation better:

Now that:

- The longest-haul airliner is a 777, which is clearly selling better than
the 340.

- Airbus substitute for 200-300 series is a 2-holer (the 350).
(For the 500-600 we still don't know)

- Many 773 are substituting 747's, which have practically stopped
selling.

- The future of 380 doesn't look so bad, but it's still unclear

- Even EMB-170-190 success is changing the standard looks of regional
planes.

- And of course, the absolute kingdom in medium narrowbodies of A320-
737's

So the real question I wanna make is:

How much interest would aviation lose for you if the "worst 2 holers underwings panorama" became real?
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jush
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RE: Can You Imagine A World Of 2 (underwings) Holers?

Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:52 pm

Yeah it is pretty boring. But i see it from another site. Many 747s A340 and soon A380 despite some of them are barely sold anymore (not matching for the A380) will remain in the sky for quite a time to come.
So the scenario which you are talking about shouldn't become real pretty soon.
Then again the look of two holers is not that boring. Imagine to see a T7/200LR landing after a 787 landed. That would be two completely different and amazing sites.
That would made my day in a few years.
And i have to admit, though i'm airbus fan and truly support the A380 project, i will always rather watch T7's and 787s landing in the future than an A380.
Once you get used to see that huge bird i reckon it just remains ugly...

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jush
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RE: Can You Imagine A World Of 2 (underwings) Holers?

Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:57 pm

Quoting Jush (Reply 1):
Once you get used to see that huge bird i reckon it just remains ugly...

What?? It's all about the bendy wings  Smile
 
legacy135
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RE: Can You Imagine A World Of 2 (underwings) Holers?

Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:04 pm

Sad but true  Sad The airplane world of the future does pretty much look as the ones with "the prop in the nose" will be the turboprops, the ones with "the engines in the back" the biz jets and "the ones with the 2 engines under the wing" the airliners...
 
iberiadc852
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RE: Can You Imagine A World Of 2 (underwings) Holers?

Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:54 pm

Quoting Legacy135 (Reply 3):

Yes, that's a good sum-up.

In this forum it is continously debated the future and success of aircraft from a commercial product point of view, but I think we shouldn't forget that nowadays, the few remaining DC-10, MD-11, MD-80, the still many 747,340 and the next in service 380, are what give a little "joy" to nowadays aviation's landscape, and without them, maybe some of us (me at least), would not even appreciate the 2 holers the same.

Quoting Jush (Reply 1):
Once you get used to see that huge bird i reckon it just remains ugly...

I remember when I first saw the design of 767 and 777, I found their tails quite ugly (especially the 777's, too thin, tall, and plain), but as very partial aspect of the plane I finally got used to them. In the same way, I think that with the A380, in general it will be easier to get used to its nose, (and the tail, which I also find out of proportion), than to its size. And, besides, I hope God listens to me  pray  and make the A380-900 succeed, because, as I find it much better proportioned, I am sure many of the A380 detractors would change their opinions.
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TomFoolery
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RE: Can You Imagine A World Of 2 (underwings) Holers?

Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:19 pm

Dont panic!
The Chineese have receintly unveiled a plan for the ARJ 21 which will carry around 70-90 pax. It is due out in '08, however one site www.aerosite.net/arj21.htm has completely different information.
I am rather partial to the aft mounted a/c because you dont have to spend quite so much money to sit on the quieter end of the engines, ,unless you are in the last 5 or 6 rows.
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