MAH4546
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Delta Applies For ATL-ZIH

Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:47 am

Delta has applied with the US DOT to offer service between Atlanta and Ixtapa. They propose year-round SaSu service using 737-800 aircraft.

They currently don't fly to Ixtapa, but have also applied to fly Los Angeles-Ixtapa.

http://dms.dot.gov/search/document.c...m?documentid=347379&docketid=22620
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RE: Delta Applies For ATL-ZIH

Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:38 am

Here we go again. Do you think Airtran will match this application from ATL or AA/UA from LAX?
 
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RE: Delta Applies For ATL-ZIH

Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:22 pm

Quoting Juventus (Reply 1):
Do you think Airtran will match this application from ATL

What incentive does FL have to match it? It's not like 2 more carriers would be interested in the route.
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RE: Delta Applies For ATL-ZIH

Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:16 pm

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
It's not like 2 more carriers would be interested in the route.

I'm amazed that one carrier is interested in the route.

February/March/April maybe. The rest of the year - forget it.

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[Edited 2005-10-04 06:16:40]
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RE: Delta Applies For ATL-ZIH

Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:25 pm

Ixtapa loads are actually quite high year round oddly enough. Been travelling down there this past year and flights have been packed, both on 4x weekly ERJ and Sat 735 service on CO.

I'd love DL to fly the route and hope it's successful so I can fly LGA-ATL-ZIH!

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RE: Delta Applies For ATL-ZIH

Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:48 pm

Is Delta attempting to unseat Continental as the unofficial foreign flag carrier of Mexico?  Wink
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RE: Delta Applies For ATL-ZIH

Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:22 pm

Quoting SHUPirate1 (Reply 5):
Is Delta attempting to unseat Continental as the unofficial foreign flag carrier of Mexico?

Who knows. DL is adding new routes and destinations to Mexico like crazy, but unlike CO mainly on mainline and not dreaded RJs  Wink .
 
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RE: Delta Applies For ATL-ZIH

Wed Oct 05, 2005 3:32 am

Every Mexican destination that DL offers on mainline, CO does as well. While CO uses ERJs to many of the smaller Mexican markets, CO offers mainline service to the following Mexican cities

Los Cabos, Ixtapa, Puerto Vallarta, Acapulco, Monterrey, Guadalajara, Mexico City, Leon/Guanajuato, Cancun, Cozumel, and Merida.
 
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RE: Delta Applies For ATL-ZIH

Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:24 am

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 6):
Who knows. DL is adding new routes and destinations to Mexico like crazy, but unlike CO mainly on mainline and not dreaded RJs

Isn't ATL-MTY still a 1000 mile long CRJ route... not even CR7?

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RE: Delta Applies For ATL-ZIH

Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:49 am

Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 8):
Isn't ATL-MTY still a 1000 mile long CRJ route... not even CR7?

Yes, but it is currently DL's only RJ route to Mexico. Every other route uses at least the E70 like SLC-MZT, but the sheer majority of flights is 738s.
 
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RE: Delta Applies For ATL-ZIH

Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:02 am

That ramp is tiny, I'd love to see it at the peak hours with more airlines. It will be like Cabo!
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RE: Delta Applies For ATL-ZIH

Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:08 am

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 9):

Yes, but it is currently DL's only RJ route to Mexico. Every other route uses at least the E70 like SLC-MZT, but the sheer majority of flights is 738s.

SLC-SJD uses a CRJ-700 during the off-season.
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RE: Delta Applies For ATL-ZIH

Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:20 am

Well, Delta is restructuring, could it be to boost revenue? They also said they were going to wean the Domestic Market.
 
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RE: Delta Applies For ATL-ZIH

Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:59 am

Quoting Juventus (Reply 1):
Here we go again. Do you think Airtran will match this application from ATL or AA/UA from LAX?

UA already holds one of the ZIH route authorities from LAX. The other is held by AS, who have done quite well on the route for quite a time. I really hope AA or F9 jumps on this and the DOT tells DL to shove it considering their crap service and tear down of the WA network out of LAX
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RE: Delta Applies For ATL-ZIH

Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:39 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
UA already holds one of the ZIH route authorities from LAX. The other is held by AS, who have done quite well on the route for quite a time

Thanx for the info. I knew Alaska flew to ZIH with very good load factors, but I wasn't aware about UA.
 
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RE: Delta Applies For ATL-ZIH

Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:22 am

DL wants to increase Mexican routes by 124%...

http://biz.yahoo.com/bizj/051004/1172805.html?.v=2
 
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RE: Delta Applies For ATL-ZIH

Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:23 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
. I really hope AA or F9 jumps on this and the DOT tells DL to shove it considering their crap service and tear down of the WA network out of LAX

If anything I would only expect AA to file as they have a larger presence in LAX than F9 which would give them a better chance of DOT approval. Also with all other airlines quiet for this long about the new routes I owudn't expect too much competition with the DOT slots for DL.

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