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Sat May 13, 2000 6:51 am

Could someone please tell me who is in the following alliances?

Delta/AirFrance (is it more than just these two, if not, dont bother answering)

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Sat May 13, 2000 7:10 am

Qualiflyer members:
Swissair, Sabena, TAP Air Portugal, Turkish Airlines, AOM (French), Crossair (Swiss), Air Littoral, Air Liberte (both French), Air Europe (Italien), LOT Polish Airlines, Portugalia, Volare (Italian).
These are the members at the moment.
They codeshare with many airlines for example:
AA, South African (perhaps new member, because SAirGroup is stake-holder), Qantas, JAL, Thai (member of Star, still), Malasian Airlines, Cathay Pacific and others.
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RE: Alliances

Sat May 13, 2000 8:18 am

DL/AF Alliance:

Air France
Korean Air
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RE: Alliances

Sat May 13, 2000 8:23 am

Delta/Air France: Delta, Air France, soon Aeromexico and probably Korean.
OneWorld: AA, Cathay Pacific, British Airways, Qantas, Finnair, Iberia. (Canadi>n is dropping out)
Star: United, Lufthansa, ANA, Mexicana, Singapore Airlines, Austrian Airlines, Tyrolean, Lauda, Thai, Air Canada, Air New Zealand, Ansett Airlines, Varig.
Qualiflyer: Listed above by ZRH.
Wings: Its up in the air. The original members would have been Continental, Northwest, Alitalia, and KLM, but KLM nixed its alliance with Alitalia and now Wings' future is uncertain.

Aaron G.
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RE: Alliances

Sat May 13, 2000 8:51 am

Add Aeroflot to the DL-AF alliance. And remember the rumor that was spreading early this week about them and BA coming in???

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RE: Alliances

Sun May 14, 2000 1:50 am

I do not believe Aeroflot will be included in the initial alliance. From what I have heard, Delta & Air France will code-share & cargo initially and will evaluate full membership later.
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RE: Alliances

Sun May 14, 2000 2:09 am

Continental isn't yet a member of the Wings Alliance. Although NW owns CO, CO hasn't join Wings (I've heard they will soon). The original members are NW and KL. AZ joined later.

To DeltaAirlines I would say that BA is also in talks with KLM about joining Wings or a merge Oneworld with Wings (at least the rumour was spread at an airline convention in Phoenix). So don't be sure BA will come to DL and AF.

Laurens Janssen
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RE: Alliances

Sun May 14, 2000 2:38 am

Northwest owns Continental? That is a new one to me.
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RE: Alliances

Sun May 14, 2000 12:20 pm

Delta772- Northwest doesnt own Continental, they own a partial stake and have some say in what Continental does, but CO is trying to buy back that stake.
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Sun May 14, 2000 12:39 pm

american airlines, british airways, Iberia, Cathay Pacific, Qantas, Finnair, Lan Chile, Aerolineas Argentinas(dropped out?). What about JAL?
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RE: Alliances

Sun May 14, 2000 12:58 pm

British Midland is also due to join Star within months
717, 721/2, 732/3/4/5/7/8/9, 742/3/4, 752/3, 762/3, 772/E/W, 300,310, 319,320/1, 332/3, 359, 388, DC9, DC10, F28, F100, 142,143, E90, CR2, D82/3/4, SF3, ATR
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RE: Alliances

Sun May 14, 2000 6:52 pm

Sorry, but NW controls CO. NW has all the preferential stocks (I think they're called class A stocks). Although these stocks represent somwhere around 15% of all stocks outstanding they give NW 51% of the voting rights, so NW controls CO. For the record:
Total stock outsanding:
54.2 million class B shares (1 vote per stock)
11.3 million class A shares (10 votes per stock)

total number of votes: 164.5 million

Norhwest has 8.66 million class A stock which means 86.6 million vote which is more than 50%.

Northwest and Continental agreed to a period of 6 years where NW wouldn't exercise its rights.

For more info look on the CO webstie

Laurens Janssen

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