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NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Wed Oct 05, 2005 3:24 am

Wow, it's been several months since my last posting. Nice to drop in again.

Okay, I have a trip already purchased that involves quite a few flight segments on NWA DC-9s (all happen to be -30 series). The flights invlove flying on the -9 to/from MSP, DTW, MEM, and ORF. I'm originating in DEN, but those flights involve an A319 and an A320.

DC-9 questions:

1) Which cities can I expect 'powerbacks' in?
2) What row is the best (behind the wing) and window view-friendly?
3) How many -9s are still in the old NWA colors?

Detroit question:

1) Having never been through Detroit, what is/are the better places to eat a sit-down meal for a long layover?


Memphis question:

1) Having never been through Memphis, what is/are the better places to eat a sit-down meal for a long layover?


I had a chance to book myself onto a 757-300, having never flown on one before, but I went with my gut...I decided the 753s will be around much longer than the Diesel 9s.
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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Wed Oct 05, 2005 3:33 am

Any DC-9 I've ever flown in was still in the old colors. I don't know if they were purposefully putting off repainting them or what...
 
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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Wed Oct 05, 2005 3:46 am

DIA..Welcome back....

Q one...DTW has DC 9 powerbacks from most but NOT all gates.
I believe MEM falls in the same catagory.

Q two...I posted this the other day
model 30 ....row 18,19 or 20
model 40.... row 19 to 21
model 50.... row 21 to 24
The higher the row number, the close to the engine.
The very last row does NOT have a view...see seatguru.com
Q three...only a handful of NW people know this answer...I can tell you most DC 9's are in the new NWA paint scheme. How do I know this? Go to DTW and ride the tram where you can look down on the parked fleet.
There's your answer.

DTW eats....I hang at the Budweiser brew house open to all ages near gate 30.
There is a view by the window if you are lucky enough to get to those tables first.
There is NOT a view at Chilis, but its a good place to read, eat and people-watch.

MEM..I'm not a regular there....sorry
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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Wed Oct 05, 2005 3:47 am

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 1):
Any DC-9 I've ever flown in was still in the old colors. I don't know if they were purposefully putting off repainting them or what...

A fari amount are, but there are quite a few in new colors as well.
 
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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:09 am

Nice to be back, Safe.

Good info here guys. I'm taking notes, as I will plan thoroughly for this trip.

I tried to get a DC-9-50 leg, but it just didn't coincide with my travel plans.

Also, how many -40s does NWA still have?
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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:52 am

I like Chili's in DTW, great for people watching....around gate 38 I think....
 
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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:07 am

I flew DTW-STL , I got a NWA DC-9, and it was in old colors, my only DC-9 and in old colors, every other DC-9 I saw was in new colors. I pushed back from gate A-64 and I had a powerback, my first one on my first DC-9 I got lucky, read my TR if u want more info on the BWI-DTW-STL to know more about it and to see some DTW pictures.

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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:35 am

At DTW, B-20 / B-21 gate areas are good for spotting, especially if they're using 4R/ 4L.
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Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:45 am

Go to MSP. You'll see every version, both color schemes and get a few powerbacks...all within a minutes.

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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:49 am

Quoting DIA (Thread starter):
1) Having never been through Detroit, what is/are the better places to eat a sit-down meal for a long layover?

My girlfriend who recently flew through DTW told me that she was surprised by the decent quality of a few Japanese food joints there. I think it's because of the NRT connection. If you don't want another Chili's or something, those might be something to consider. I don't know where they are though -- I'm sure somebody does.
 
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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:51 am

Quoting DIA (Thread starter):
.I decided the 753s will be around much longer than the Diesel 9s.

I doubt that... With NWA with so many problems, they may get rid of the 753s... ya never know
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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:42 am

When I flew them in May,they powered back both times @ DTW and @ GSO. Very cool.

Here's a good video of a power-back Smile
http://www.flightlevel350.com/viewer.php?id=668

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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:03 am

Quoting United_Fan (Reply 11):

Very Cool! Thanks... I couldn't hear the engine but I could feel the engine noise on my computer ... "noise vibration" ... feels great

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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:34 am

Quoting BR715-A1-30 (Reply 10):

I doubt that... With NWA with so many problems, they may get rid of the 753s... ya never know

They will be in service with other airlines. Northwest is pretty much the only major airline in the world, AFAIK, to still have DC-9s. There no other (large) amounts of DC-9s in the US, none or almost none left in Europe and I doubt there are many left in Asia or Austrailia. That leaves Mexico, South America and Africa.

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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:42 am

Quoting DIA (Thread starter):
1) Having never been through Memphis, what is/are the better places to eat a sit-down meal for a long layover?

The BBQ place there is rather famous and has a great reputation for a sit down meal on a long layover.
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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:49 am

Last time I was thru MEM, there are 2 BBQ places- Interstate BBQ and Corky's. Both are good IMHO.
 
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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:40 pm

Thanks to all who have posted here.

I will be printing out this post when it dies out so that I can have a hard copy of the great info herein.

Atrude777: I'll follow up with your TR, when I have some time.

MarshalN: I'm a sushi fan, so I may check that out.

Folks, I'm Chili'd-out as we have them all over here in Denver. Not that I don't enjoy the food, I'm just looking for that something new...and I know you all understand that.

United_Fan: I'll check out that video in the next couple of days. thanks for the link.

N1120A & TimT: BBQ in Memphis (Corky's and Interstate)...I'll watch for those, thanks.

Powerbacking fans: I've powerbacked in a DC-9 and an MD-80, and almost got to in a 721 in OAK back in the 1980s, but I changed my flight due to a travel change, so I watched "my" 721 powerback as I got ready to board a 732. Opportunity missed.

Thanks to all with any good info/comments...

Regards,
DIA
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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Wed Oct 05, 2005 1:54 pm

Agreed that the best seats on a DC-9 are at the back, unless you can get one of the ones right behind First Class that is in front of the wing. Those are choice. If you want behind the wing, though, get as far back as you can, but not the last row(no window, which sucks).

As far as the powerbacking, I have certainly been on a few out of MSP gates. I think they are chronically short tugs and ground crew up here, hence the large numbers.

Also, don't be certain that you are on -30 aircraft until you check in for the flight. They really like to move airplanes around the fleet to get the best matches possible for each route, so you might wind up being on a -40 or -50 if it is a busy day on a certain segment. Keep your eyes peeled for that. I like the -50s a lot, they are by far my favorite ones.

Its a shame that you didn't get a flight in the NW system on the ARJ85... looks like those are going goodbye, and I have still yet to find a better airplane to fly domestic on. Those things are just good little planes.

Hope this helps.

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Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:51 pm

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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:26 pm

Quoting DIA (Reply 16):
Corky's and Interstate)...I'll watch for those,

Corky's- A23 and B36 or thereabouts
Interstate- before B28 and B16
 
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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:19 pm

Flying727 and Nosedive: Thanks for the good info and link.

Meister808: Regarding NWA switching around the Diesel 9s to better fit the pax load: that is music to my ears, as I haven't been able to fly either the -50 or -40, and I feel my time is running out. Thus far, I have doublechecked with NWA...my segments are all -30 variants. As far as the ARJ85 (isn't that also known as a BAe-146)? If so, I caught a flight on one of those back in the late 1980s on Presidential Airways PWM-IAD.
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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:57 pm

I fly in to DTW a lot (at least 3 times a year) and before I board to go back home I always seem to end up at the Online Cafe, a small little joint with a place you can plug in your laptop if you so desire. Me I just sit at the bar and down a few beers waiting for my flight. It does have a window out to the ramp so you can see some things.
 
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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:09 am

Quoting BR715-A1-30 (Reply 10):
I doubt that... With NWA with so many problems, they may get rid of the 753s... ya never know

I doubt it, they own all of the 753's and they want more, but its a bit too late.

Quoting DIA (Reply 20):
As far as the ARJ85 (isn't that also known as a BAe-146)? If so, I caught a flight on one of those back in the late 1980s on Presidential Airways PWM-IAD.

The BAe 146 is an earlier version of the RJ-85.

Quoting DIA (Thread starter):

1) Which cities can I expect 'powerbacks' in?

Detroit, and very few anymore in MSP, I go out of G and C all the time in a DC-9 but none of them have been self powerback.

Quoting DIA (Thread starter):
3) How many -9s are still in the old NWA colors?

I think its somewhere around 2/5 are still in the old colors.

Quoting DIA (Thread starter):
1) Having never been through Detroit, what is/are the better places to eat a sit-down meal for a long layover?

I enjoy National Coney Island.

Quoting DIA (Thread starter):
1) Having never been through Memphis, what is/are the better places to eat a sit-down meal for a long layover?

Interstate BBQ is a better joint then Corky's IMO. I also like a sandwhich shop there that you can sit down at, but its no different then a subway.

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 8):
Go to MSP. You'll see every version, both color schemes and get a few powerbacks...all within a minutes.

Mark

DTW is a larger DC-9 hub them MSP, MSP is a larger Airbus hub then DTW, he'll get his fair share at DTW and more powerbacks as well.

Quoting DIA (Reply 20):
Regarding NWA switching around the Diesel 9s to better fit the pax load: that is music to my ears, as I haven't been able to fly either the -50 or -40, and I feel my time is running out

The change is not made until the day before or even the day of the flight, its usually a last minute switch.
 
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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:06 am

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 22):
I enjoy National Coney Island

I'm surprised that you were the first person to mention that. Nat'l Coney Island is great, especially for breakfast. They have a great breakfast bagel thing, called the sausage/ham egger, tasty.

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RE: NWA DC-9 Expedition Planned. I've Got Questions...

Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:24 am

I only wish I could get on a -9 again. Did so this past February, SYR-DTW and back for a vacation to Florida. Both flights were -50s, in Row 23 I believe. I loved those flights, and the noises coming from those old PWs. I'm trying to book on US now as much as possible, to accrue more mileage, but I'll never pass up a ride on a Diesel 9 if it's cheaper. So, hopefully I'll be on one soon.

As for DTW: go to National Coney Island, as many here have said. Make sure you ride the tram at least once as well  Wink. It's all in good fun. Have a great time on NW- they treat their customers well, and I wish them all the best.

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