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AA Or CO To NRT

Sat May 13, 2000 4:10 pm

Im going to be taking a trip to NRT in December and my options of getting there are either American or Continental. I would like to know what people thought about AA and CO's international services. The routes I was looking at are BUF-EWR-NRT on CO or BUF-ORD-NRT. I would like to know everyones opinion... especially those who have flown on AA or CO's intl routes.

Thank you!
 
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RE: AA Or CO To NRT

Sat May 13, 2000 4:22 pm

I have flown AA from OKC-DFW-NRT twice and I must say that the service was excellent. The 777's are wonderful, especially if you are sitting on the side with a window or aisle. The international service is great. We had sushi, with other Japanese dishes, and then they gave us a box of chocolates that said, "International Flagship Service." It was very impressive. I have also heard good things about Continental, but can't comment on them since I haven't flown on the internationally. Oh, by the way, the AA flight attendants on the DFW-NRT trip were HOT! There was one especially who said she was half-hawaiian and she was the translator. OH MY GOD!! Well, just thought I'd let you know. It's nice to have something to look at for the 13 hour trip from DFW. As far as entertainment goes, it is pretty decent. There are around 20 channels on the PTV's, one being the airshow, and I think there are 2 different movies playing continuously throughout the flight so you can watch them anytime you want to. It was really a great flight and once you are at cruising altitude, those big RR engines whine down to a soft purr, and the ride is very smooth and quiet. There are some people that will say that the 777 is a lot louder than the A340, but I didn't think so at all. And I know that people bitch about the 2-5-2 seating, but the cabin seems much more airy and open than the A340, not to mention more attractive and modern. Have a great trip and enjoy Japan. It is a wonderful country with wonderful people who go out of their way to make sure you are a satisfied visitor. I love it there.
Phil
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RE: AA Or CO To NRT

Sun May 14, 2000 12:24 am

I can't comment on AA since the last time a flew them internationally was 6 years ago flying JFK-LHR, although I remember it being a good flight on a 763. I did fly CO EWR-CDG and back last summer and had two great flights on their 777s. I am a big fan of CO and a big fan of their operation at EWR. Their 777s are excelent and they have chosen the 3-3-3 seating which some find more comfortable than 2-5-2. The PTVs are great!! I'm sure you will have a great flight no matter who you choose! If you choose CO you can count on a good flight!

-NYC-air
 
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RE: AA Or CO To NRT

Sun May 14, 2000 12:30 am

You will probably have the same experience on either airline but it will be better than most because of the fact that they use 777s. A few Japanese publications ranked Continental as the best foreign airline to go to Japan, if that helps any. If you want to space your trip out, though (east-coast to NRT is a long way!!), maybe you should try the minutely shorter AA trip from ORD.

Aaron G.

 
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RE: AA Or CO To NRT

Sun May 14, 2000 1:39 am

I'm sorry I can not comment on the service on AA. All I can say is look at the facts. We have won almost every award for service the past 4yrs both domestic, and internationlly. The size of American Airlines says that they know what they are doing also,and I'm sure it is nothing to laugh at; however, NRT flight is one of our most visiable flights and we run it very well from what I see. One last thing is , if you chose coach, or business class, I think you will like the 3-3-3 CO in back much more than 2-5-2 at AA; plus the Buss. seats on CO have all the same extras as almost every airline is using with these seats. Thank you for your consideration in CO.

Greg..
 
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RE: AA Or CO To NRT

Sun May 14, 2000 2:44 am

i recomend going with the airline that you always fly with because your flight is going to get you allot of miles. My dad gained executive platinum status by flying dfw-nrt a few times
 
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RE: AA Or CO To NRT

Sun May 14, 2000 3:02 am

Serving Heathrow means having prestige as an international airline, bottom line. Unless you are a plane spotter, Gatwick is a better airport, easier to get to and less crowded. The US carriers feel they need this prestige to be a player in the international market. Even AA (UA didn't fly to London) felt like stepchildren because of PA and TW when they had Heathrow services.
 
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RE: AA Or CO To NRT

Sun May 14, 2000 3:52 am

i would recommend AA even though i haven't flown continental international. I flew ord-zrh on AA buissness class on a 763 and even with out the extended legroom, i still found the legroom to be a very generous amount, the seats were very stylish and comfortable and reclined 150 degrees and i slept very well on that flight. and the menu was all gourmet and the service was very generous and I would recommend AA internationally to anyone who asks me. go with AA
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AAFlyer
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RE: AA Or CO To NRT

Sun May 14, 2000 7:57 am

Thanks for your opinions!
I normally flew Delta to NRT when I lived at PDX. but now im either switching to AA or CO.

Jason
 
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RE: AA Or CO To NRT

Sun May 14, 2000 8:49 am

CALPilot makes a very good point about the EWR-NRT being one of CO's most visible flights. I remember a while back they had radio advertisements here in NYC specifically for that flight. CO probably puts a lot into it because it is quite new and CO had to try to get the customers in NYC who were loyal to JAL, NW, UA, and ANA as they all fly from JFK. AA's ORD-NRT flight is just another one of AA's many flights. Fly CO!!

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RE: PDX-NRT

Sun May 14, 2000 2:16 pm

Hey AAFLYER,

Just curious, being that you have flown the PDX-NRT route on delta, what you think of it?
 
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RE: PDX-NRT

Sun May 14, 2000 3:54 pm

about the DL PDX-NRT service. The service was overal good. They fly MD-11's on that particular route. The seating in economy is 2-5-2. I would recommend getting a seat on teh window side, I've been stuck in the middle row of 5 and found it to be the most uncomfortable espeically for a flight of that length. The movies played in economy aren't that great. 30 minutes after take off they'll show you a sitcom.. either friends, home improvement, wil and grace or seinfeld.. later on they'll show 1 late run movie and then after that it's pure crap.. either films from the 80's and some lame short films.. you'll get served drinks once you reach the cruising altitude.. of about 33,000 to 35,000 ft. Shortly after that you'll get served lunch, since the flight departs around lunch time.. The meals are usually your typical beef, chicken and sometimes they offer japanese selections. Leg room is generous if you're lucky enough to get seat 30.. which is hte first row of seats in the main economy cabin.. the rest of hte sears are tight on legroom that's if you're tall.. in my case im only 5'9" and don't mind it. Last december I flew to NRT and used my miles to upgrade to business elite and got seat 1a.. which is merely feet from teh cockpit. The service in bus elite is excellent! They offered us a choice of orange juice or champagne before take off and we also got bottled water before we took off as well.. Like all busness/first class services on other airlines, you'll recieve the typical amentites kit, which includes: a toothbrush, toothpaste, mouthwash, kleenex, ear plugs, do not disturb stickers, lotion, socks, and a blind fold.. The seats in bus elite were very comfortable.. and they went back far enough for you to enjoy a good nap on the trip.. the food services were good. They start out with a snack of roasted nuts, which was nice and warmed up.. you get drinks offered allll hte time through out the flight. They will refill it for you as often as you'd like. I thought they were generous with the amoutn of drinks offered. The lead FA usually caters to all bus elite passengers. They call you mr. name, ms name. etc.. very polite.. You get 2 menues.. 1 has a selection of meals.. which I should've kept, but I left it on the plane.. and a 2nd menu with a big selection of wines and spirits. They offer you a ton of different appetizers.. such as sushi, rolls, salads. etc.. and then onto the main entrie.. they serve it to you by first placing a table cloth, and placing everything onto your table neatly.. after your meal you're then offered more drinks.. The bus elite was far better than other business classes that i've expericesed with Northwest and Korean Air. Well if there is anything else you'd like to know post it here and i'll get back to you..

Jason
 
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RE: AA Or CO To NRT

Sun May 14, 2000 4:00 pm

Thank you everyone!
I will get back to you guys on what I choose.. I will probaly make the reservations this summer.. I am leaning a little more towards continental.. as they have partnerships with northwest. I've heard many good things about continental and appreciate everyones comments on CO and AA.

Jason
 
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RE: AA Or CO To NRT

Mon May 15, 2000 6:00 am

Thanks AAFlyer, I've heard similar views about pdx-nrt from others. I'd like to get over to tokyo sometime, though it takes a little more planning than other vacations.

Just curious, if you don't mind me asking, do you usually go to japan just for pleasure, or business, or family? I'm always interested in travel tips, etc.

Thanks, Mario
 
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RE: AA Or CO To NRT

Mon May 15, 2000 6:09 am

I don't know about service to Japan, but I do fly frequently to Bogota as my wife is Colombian. CO and AA are the only two U.S. airlines currently serving Colombia and I fly both depending on cheapest airfare and flight availability.

AA flights are consistent. No frills, they get you there safetly, efficiently, relative comfort and on time more or less. AA uses B757 and A300-600 which is comfortable for these flights.
CO service is better to me because the entire staff seems to value your business more in comparison to AA who doesn't even seem to notice you are there. However, because CO has fewer flights, delays can be a problem. I spent one long, cold night in Newark waiting for connection to Boston, and also flying IAH-BOG in a 737 is not the most comfortable thing.

My first choice would be CO because of the little extras in service. I am sure that will make a difference in the very long flight between East Coast and Japan...
 
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RE: AirNondo

Mon May 15, 2000 10:38 am

I usually go to NRT for pleasure.. not business as im only in unversity right now. I also visit family, but in SEL.. which is a short flight from NRT. I usually take about 3-5 trips to NRT per year. I always look for new routes to NRT. I've flown on Northwest, United, and Delta to NRT and im intersted in flying AA or CO. I would fly USAir if they were awarded a route to NRT.

Jason
 
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RE: AA Or CO To NRT

Mon May 15, 2000 11:42 pm

I have flown AA from NRT-SJC, SEA, DFW and SEA-NRT twice. I loved the service as they did. The MD-11 and B777 are great. I am going to take the other trip from ORD-NRT at the end of May. I must say AA is the best airline in the American. Even though the stuffs who was badly to me from ticket office and advantage department.
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UAL 744

Tue May 16, 2000 12:41 am

Honestly, I'd consider flying UA via ORD to get on a 744. I have flown on 777's of UA and BA, and they are extremely nice, but I have yet to get on a 744. I would think that that would be the best aircraft for long trans-pacific flights. But both AA and CO offer great servive. Enjoy!

PANAMAN
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RE: UAL 744

Tue May 16, 2000 3:43 am

I would not consider UAL as I haven't heard anything good about United. They lost my dads luggage on an international flight last year and they also lost my dads friends luggage too. I prefer American and Continental over UAL. I've flown on lots of different aircrafts including the 744-400. I prefer the 777 over those aircraft.

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