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A WW2 Bomb Found Near AMS

Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:26 pm

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RE: A WW2 Bomb Found Near AMS

Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:18 pm

They are expecting severe delays today. It's a British made 500 pounder from WW2. It's position is instable and bomb is probably armed.

Runway 18R-36L is closed and the 18C-36C can only be used for southbound departures. Only two instead of three runways can be used today.

They expect the explosive to be removed by Friday morning.
 
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RE: A WW2 Bomb Found Near AMS

Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:09 pm

The article didn't say much. Was it found in the ground during an excavation? Or did someone just run across it somewhere?
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RE: A WW2 Bomb Found Near AMS

Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:13 pm

Lots of diversions due to this and the present heavy fog at the airport, planes now even divert into Bremen. Dusseldorf and Cologne don't even except anymore diversions from Schiphol at the moment.
 
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RE: A WW2 Bomb Found Near AMS

Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:25 pm

Quoting Eham (Reply 3):
Lots of diversions due to this and the present heavy fog at the airport, planes now even divert into Bremen. Dusseldorf and Cologne don't even except anymore diversions from Schiphol at the moment.

Spotters: Flock out to BRE, DUS & CGN for some unusual visitors ! S*** I´ve to work, though it´s only slightly more than 1 h driving time for me to BRE (but still a bit foggy here - west of HAJ - with visibilities around 100 meters).
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RE: A WW2 Bomb Found Near AMS

Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:27 pm

Quoting Eham (Reply 3):
Lots of diversions due to this and the present heavy fog at the airport, planes now even divert into Bremen. Dusseldorf and Cologne don't even except anymore diversions from Schiphol at the moment.

except? Accept?

Interesting for the spotters in Bremen. Do they also divert planes to Maastricht??

In Germany we're finding bombs all the time. Will probably take forever to get rid of them.
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RE: A WW2 Bomb Found Near AMS

Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:34 pm

KLM flight 1664 is now on the way to Bremen, at first ATC suggested Hamburg to the crew but the crew itself decided to try Bremen first.

Visibility now slowly improving, but average holding times still at least 50 minutes.
 
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RE: A WW2 Bomb Found Near AMS

Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:09 pm

Quoting Thorben (Reply 5):
In Germany we're finding bombs all the time.

Agreed, but in case of AMS I think the combination of closing one rwy AND the fog is the real problem. W/o fog the situation should have been much more relaxed.

P.S. The fog also seems to slow down access to website http://www.schiphol.nl/ Big grin
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RE: A WW2 Bomb Found Near AMS

Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:33 am

I flew in to LGW from AMS with U2 a few hours ago - the flight schedules were in chaos at AMS! Two young ladies behind me in the queue at duty free had been due to fly out at 9am, however I overheard them say their flight was delayed till 7:30pm (although I didn't catch where they were trying to get to). There seemed to be almost constant announcements for pax to go to gate x to get free meal vouchers, and there were queues of angry pax at all of the information desks.

Luckily, my U2 flight left only an hour late! It looked as thought things were gradually getting back to normal, but we were much luckier than a lot of folks.
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RE: A WW2 Bomb Found Near AMS

Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:58 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 2):
The article didn't say much. Was it found in the ground during an excavation? Or did someone just run across it somewhere?

found during an excavation
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1812384,00.html
http://www.newkerala.com/news.php?action=fullnews&id=31673
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RE: A WW2 Bomb Found Near AMS

Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:21 am

Quoting Thorben (Reply 5):
In Germany we're finding bombs all the time. Will probably take forever to get rid of them.

I can believe that. After WWII, the USAAF estimated that as many as 10%-15% of all bombs they dropped failed to explode. For the RAF, the numbers are about the same, but since the RAF flew mostly night bombing missions (the USAAF flew mostly daylight missions), I don't know how they would know with much accuracy.

My guess is the Luftwaffe had a similar number of bombs that did not detonate.

I would also guess that there are still undiscovered unexploded bombs in most of the European Countries, from Russia to England.

There are probibly thousands of artillery shells, land and sea mines, and torpedos, as well as air dropped bombs all over Europe that are still potentionally dangerous.
 
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RE: A WW2 Bomb Found Near AMS

Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:46 am

The French government has an entire department of brave lads (Department du Deminage?) devoted to the removal of millions upon millions of rounds of ordnance that have accumulated on French soil throughout the course of three wars...(I didn't forget 1870)....particularly in the areas where the fronts were static and stalemated, huge quantities of arty were expended....as I understand it sometimes the farmers'll schlepp the rounds out to the road...a dangerous business as some are gas shells.

http://www.aftermathpictures.com/aftermat/demineur.html

The stuff is damned deadly....here in the states a few years back a Virginia farmer plowed up a musket barrel, which was all that was left of a civil war muzzle loading rifle abandoned on the field in 1863 or thereabouts...as it was a likely looking piece of iron he attempted to heat it with a torch to do...something or other....the charge fired and the minie ball in the barrel killed him dead.

Here's an interesting story on UXO

http://www.hq.usace.army.mil/cepa/pubs/apr01/story6.htm
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