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Helping Others With Excess Baggage After 9/11

Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:56 pm

It has been a norm in our part of the world like Dubai, Lebanon, Jordan and the Middle East Area to have alot of fellow passengers ask you if you can help them by slipping in one of their bags with yours during checkin ask alot of them travel with trillions of bags!!!! I never allowed this before 9/11 cause it was simply unsafe and could get you in trouble - (In Thailand it could be the death penalty if they find narcotics in these bags)

And now after 9/11 as I am a frequent traveller, I still get the same kinda request from people who beg us to slip one or more of their bags to avoid paying the excess weight charges..... Will these people ever learn???

Do you experience this in your part of the world?
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RE: Helping Others With Excess Baggage After 9/11

Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:05 pm

Israellis in general and these religious jews in particular are probaply some of the worst offenders, altough they tend to do it amongst eachother.

RE: Helping Others With Excess Baggage After 9/11

Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:06 pm

Never had anyone ask - but I would certainly refuse - and I would feel obliged to inform airport security - after all , how do you know that the person is a genuine traveller - unfortunately in the real world terrorists do not look like the stereotypes in the movies - how often have you read a news item where friends/family/neighbours have said afterwards "I can't believe it , he/she seemed just a normal everyday person"
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RE: Helping Others With Excess Baggage After 9/11

Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:31 pm

As far as I know from pax and colleagues, this practice is still going strong in certain parts of the world and amongst certain groups of travellers (I am not going to publicly point the finger here). Also, we have noticed at our base that the worst offenders for (temporarily) unattended baggage around the terminal are those from areas/groups trying to strongly prevent terrorism at all costs....

I am tearing my hairs out (should be bold by now) about this, but it's hard to stop this 'slipping stuff into other pax' bags' when pax lie during the mandatory security questions... (I am not sure if these questions are mandatory across the world, by the way.) This unpreventable practice somehow mutes the legal requirement (here in the UK) that only bags may be loaded when the associated pax are definitely on board, meaning, how do you know that the person who gave you something to slip into your bag is actually travelling? The airlines have to rely on common sense of the public, but that is not very much as we all know...  crying 
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RE: Helping Others With Excess Baggage After 9/11

Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:37 pm

I would not even think twice about doing this, and refuse point blank to help. We already had the potential terrorist scene, but just suppose the person who asked if he could slip in his bags with yours at check-in was smuggling illegal drugs and got caught on arrival. He might say that the case was yours, and the customs could confirm that you checked the case in, so you are an accomplice. Fancy spending the rest of your life in a Thai or Indonesian jail, just to save someone you do not know from having to pay for his/her excess baggage?

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RE: Helping Others With Excess Baggage After 9/11

Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:24 pm

Simple answer - NO! While most of the time, there could be legitment reasons for this, unless it was pre-arranged before you got to the airport and was a family member or trusted friend one shouldn't make that decision. Even then, I would still want to think about it and examine the luggage. As noted above, a possible terror device or drugs could be in those bags but also illegal and hazardous foods or plant products, protected antiquities, counterfit goods and so on.