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Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:58 am

On my last two flights with CO, I saw a strange SSSS in my boarding pass. I was directed towards lane 9 in the security.
In there, a very deep security awaited me. I was put into a machine that sprayed weird smelling air to me (to detect bombs) and all my bags were instected as well as myself. I then received a stamp in my pass and went to the gate.
Does this incresed security ever happened to you? What are the rubrics for choosing people to go to SSSS? I know security is important, but I was kind of upset when CO choosed me again to pass throught SSSS. I even wrote a complain letter (don´t kill for this, I know security is important).
Share your opinions.
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:02 am

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
Does this incresed security ever happened to you?

No, never happened to me on all my flights from the USA back to Europe, but my carry-on luggage and my jacket was searched two times at the departure gate (both times at JFK Terminal 1).

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
What are the rubrics for choosing people to go to SSSS?

I have no idea, the check-in agent apparently decides which passengers get an extra screening.

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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:03 am

You're right, the SSSS means you're a "selectee" for enhanced security screening (my wife likes to joke that it stands for Super Secret Special Security).
I don't know all of the selection critieria is, though.
I'm (and my family members, too) frequently selected for the enhanced screening, and I'm a crew-member.
I don't think writing a letter will do you any good, though. CO didn't create the selection criteria, blame the TSA. Every carrier has their own methods of enforcing the TSA's regulations
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To Y

Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:05 am

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 1):
I have no idea, the check-in agent apparently decides which passengers get an extra screening.

I think it is actually done by computer, and it not as though the gate agent presses a button to mark it SSSS. This thread goes into some detail about selection criteria, and is pretty interesting to read:
Did I Raise A Red Flag For The TSA Today? (by Vincent32 Oct 8 2005 in Civil Aviation)

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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:05 am

I have had it done to me a couple of times. The one thing that i actually liked about it was that i got thru the lines quicker. FOr example, MDW has some of the longest lines and i got "pegged" with the SSSS. THey had me go off to the side behind some makeshift walls where they had me take off my shoes, wanded me down, etc. IT took only a couple of minutes and i was thru security. It is actually much faster than going thru the "regular" lines.
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:07 am

This ssss means that you need to undergo special security. It often happens for the strangest reasons. I recently read an article about it, and it said that often pilots are ssss-rated, just because these security companies need to fulfill a certain percentage of these ratings. (Reminds me of arrest quotas in the good old SSSR under Stalin.)

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
I even wrote a complain letter (don´t kill for this, I know security is important).

Absolutely the right thing to do. Security has a justification, but there is a difference between helpful watchfulness, and useless and annoying paranoia. Just remember this story about the nun that got into a hell of trouble, because some alleged "terrorist" once used the same last name she has.
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:08 am

It happens to me in Dec. 2003, both ways.
In Paris it was really strange, after I passed thorough normal security it was simply a hand search. After that they escorted me to the jetway and gave my passport back just before I boarded the aircraft. On my way back I just was searched with hand metal detector, and my shoes were searched separately.
Ok. Those people was not very polite.
 
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:16 am

Happened to me just once, at LAX (outgoing) - not as bad, I just got an extra frisking.

You guys know how argumentative I am  Smile So I asked the security bloke why I'd been singled out.

He said, "I don' know really. Oh, wait a minute, you come from Orstraylia but you got some kinda different passport......."

That was true, I have a British passport as well, and use it most of the time because it costs me less in visas.

I think it is probably just the check-in people 'playing hunches'. Presumably they HAVE to flag a certain number of people or they look as if they're slacking.
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:03 am

The check-in agents have nothing to do with it. It is random and the computer will somtimes consider a one-way ticket suspect (even flying on a buddy pass too). Another possiblity of seeing the "SSSS" is if you booked last minute I think.
 
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Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:10 am

I forgot to mention that my ticket was not by me but by my university.
Perhaps it was the reason?

Also I am Estonian and was flying from France.
 
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:17 am

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 1):
I have no idea, the check-in agent apparently decides which passengers get an extra screening.

No. Absolutely not.

Quoting Thorben (Reply 5):
Absolutely the right thing to do. Security has a justification, but there is a difference between helpful watchfulness, and useless and annoying paranoia.

That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard, unless your letter went to your Congressman, since its Federal Law.

Since none of you are Americans, I assume you wrote it to your foreign office? To the airline? To the TSA? All useless.

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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:36 am

SSSS is so misunderstood. When Queen Noor was on Larry King Live, she made mention that she's under so much scrutiny while traveling in the U.S., "I don't just get S on my boarding pass, I get SSSS", and went on to define it as if she was just a regular American a simple "S" for extra screening would have been printed.

There has to be an amount of both randomness and algorithm to it. I've had boarding passes without it, then had to change flights, and bingo, it's on the new set.

It's just part of the new system. It's much less intrusive than what we experienced in the late 80's/early 90's flying an American carrier from overseas back to the U.S. We could go back to that happy experience, NOT.
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:43 am

SSSS stands for "Whiney Foreigners Who Like to Bitch and Moan About America Even if They Have no Clue Why Things are Done a certain Way in The States". Obviously it is super secret code thought. The test of the code while still encrypted reads "shithead shithead shithead shithead".The Quote below proves the point.


Quoting Thorben (Reply 5):
I recently read an article about it, and it said that often pilots are ssss-rated, just because these security companies need to fulfill a certain percentage of these ratings

Seriously, the gate agent has nothing to do with it. If there is selection criteria, no one who knows what it is will tell you on this board. I have gotten it with tickets purchased a 2 weeks in advance. My 9 year old daughter has gotten it once while the rest of the family did not. I have mad last minute business trips and trips with no return ticket purchased and never been SSSSed for it. If I had to guess I would say it's random.
 
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:54 am

Quoting Thumper3181 (Reply 12):
SSSS stands for "Whiney Foreigners Who Like to Bitch and Moan About America Even if They Have no Clue Why Things are Done a certain Way in The States".

Whatever!

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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:00 am

Had that printed on my ticket a few times, every time I've been thorugh ORD in the last three years...

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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To Y

Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:40 am

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
On my last two flights with CO, I saw a strange SSSS in my boarding pass. I was directed towards lane 9 in the security.
In there, a very deep security awaited me. I was put into a machine that sprayed weird smelling air to me (to detect bombs) and all my bags were instected as well as myself. I then received a stamp in my pass and went to the gate.
Does this incresed security ever happened to you? What are the rubrics for choosing people to go to SSSS? I know security is important, but I was kind of upset when CO choosed me again to pass throught SSSS. I even wrote a complain letter (don´t kill for this, I know security is important).
Share your opinions.
Regards,
Adam

Not quite as "thorough" but when I fleet EDI-EWR September 04 I was taken aside at check in for a random bag check. My bag was completely emptied, then once they were satisfied, everything methodically put back in place.

Later at the security check heading for the gates, I was again asked to open my bag for a random explosives "sniff" where they scanned for explosive residues on and inside my bag, including my cameras (small handheld digicam and a larger Olympus camera).

Then, as my luck would have it, on boarding I was taken aside for yet another random bag check and a shoe check. Also, I was frisked this time. Felt strange standing there at the gate without my shoes and my legs spread apart

I suppose I was "targeted" as I was traveling alone, with just my carry on bag, no hold luggage and returning 3 days later. Either that, or I had "MUG" written on my forehead.

Either way, I didn't mind. In this day and age I'd expect nothing less.
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:14 am

Quoting Thumper3181 (Reply 12):
If I had to guess I would say it's random.

Then why didn't you just say that instead of being so damned sarcastic, rude and foul-mouthed about it? All the poster wanted to know was if there is a method to the system. I wonder how civil you'll be the next time you and your family fly and your daughter is forced to be touched up by a total stranger all in the name of security.
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:40 am

I feel i must apologize for Thumper's remarks...not all american's are as self-centered and so damned ignorant at that person.

p.s.

I am looking to go to London next summer from IND, any recommendations on airlines?  Smile
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:42 am

Only once, flying on a combined Alaska/American ticket PHX-SEA-DFW-RDU, the BP checkers missed the SSSS and it wasn't until I got to the gate that it was noticed so I had to run all the way back to the check point to get a late screen.
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:46 am

It only happened to me once. I was flying IAH-AMA on an ID90 on CO (ExpressJet). As I am going through security they direct me to secondary screening due to the SSSS on my seat request card. I should of been exempt since I am an airline employee but since the secondary screening had started before I showed the screeners my airline ID, they had to finish the process.
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:19 am

It seems to happen to me almost everytime I fly, but I am perrty sure the reason why is that most of the flying I do for work is one way. I know that it bothers alot of people but it doesn't phase me.
 
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Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:21 am

Does anyone else think it gets you thru quicker having an "SSSS" as opposed to going thru "regular" security?
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:28 am

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 10):
Quoting Thorben (Reply 5):
Absolutely the right thing to do. Security has a justification, but there is a difference between helpful watchfulness, and useless and annoying paranoia.

That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard, unless your letter went to your Congressman, since its Federal Law.

Since none of you are Americans, I assume you wrote it to your foreign office? To the airline? To the TSA? All useless.

You didn't really read my post, did you? I don't have a congressman and I don't travel to that SS-country anymore.

Quoting Thumper3181 (Reply 12):
SSSS stands for "Whiney Foreigners Who Like to Bitch and Moan About America Even if They Have no Clue Why Things are Done a certain Way in The States". Obviously it is super secret code thought. The test of the code while still encrypted reads "shithead shithead shithead shithead".The Quote below proves the point.

Or maybe it stands for: "We need to spy on everyone in our country because our endless disrespect of all Non-Americans has given some of them the wish to pay us back."

Quoting Thumper3181 (Reply 12):
Seriously, the gate agent has nothing to do with it.

Who is talking about the gate agent?

Quoting Thumper3181 (Reply 12):
My 9 year old daughter has gotten it once while the rest of the family did not.

If you still believe in the sense of that measure, you really need some help.
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:31 am

Once when flying OAK-BNA-DTW on WN, I got the SSSS on my boarding pass. Apparently there was some kind of non-specific "security alert" for Detroit that day, and I suspect that is the reason I was flagged. I did seem to get through security faster that way, though. Oddly enough, they did not ask me to remove my shoes (which they do every time I go through normal security), but did search my backpack and laptop bag by hand, and appeared to have a stronger metal detector (the buckle on my ordinary run-of-the-mill belt set it off, and I have never had that happen at any other security metal detector). Also, the TSA agents in the extra security screening area seemed more friendly than regular ones, but that was surely coincidence.
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:33 am

I've found the special security agents to be nicer as well.

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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:34 am

Quoting 7E72004 (Reply 21):
Does anyone else think it gets you thru quicker having an "SSSS" as opposed to going thru "regular" security?

It definitely is quicker than normal security, but who would prefer getting touched by a stranger, bags checked deeply, getting into a machine that throws weird-smelling air into you- in short, you are treated as a terrorist.
I repeat, I don´t mind at all, security is the most important thing, but I´m really kind of mad that i happens to me ONLY when flying Continental (both ways, I bought the ticket with credit card and few months in advance, there has to be something else, maybe an AIRLINE BLACK LIST or something).
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:36 am

I would get it a lot. I generally would buy my ticket a couple of hours before my flights. Never caused me much trouble except on the way home when my rollaboard is packed. They have a heck of a time closing it with their rubber gloves and my screwy zippers.

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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:37 am

what kind of machine are you talking about that blows weird smelling air?? Anytime i have gone thru SSSS screening...either at TPA, MDW, IND or even SEA i have only had to take off my shoes, get patted down very lightly and get wanded. I don't use a carry on so i don't have to worry about that  Smile
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:38 am

I didn't get that weird-smelling air treatment, or even frisked, as I recall.
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:41 am

Can anyone tell me what the security is like in an airport such as Tel Aviv?
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To Y

Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:03 am

During my business trip to the USA I entered the country in JFK and left it in LAX, both transatlantic flights on company aircraft, no problem with SSSS.
However the domestic US sectors were a pain... I flew 4 times (all one way) and every time I heard "You have been randomly selected". Yeah right.. "randomly". I am sure that the fact that I was a foreigner travelling on one way tickets had nothing to do with it....

Well, at least I know what to expect on the next trip.
 
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:08 am

The SSSS happened to me recently. I was booked on a round trip on American. On the return trip, my first leg was cancelled. So American put me over onto USAirways. No problem: flight scheduled in two hours. Then came the realization that I had a SSSS on my boarding pass. Time then went into super slow motion in security. I wound up being one of the last passengers to board the flight after running down the long concourse from security.

Seems that it was a changed itinerary (even though it was no fault of my own).

Mindless burearcratic system! Yeah, like I really did the change myself so that I could take three segments to get home instead of two on the orginally booked carrier.

What bothers me is that there is no way to find out why that is a rule in the system. That is what makes so many of my fellow passengers lose respect for the security system.
 
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:18 am

Ahhhh, another selectee  Smile

I have never been a selectee. I love it. Even when I bought my ticket for SJC in June the day of travel I wasn't, which I was certain I would be.
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:25 am

I've had the SSSS on my boarding pass on many occasions. Luckily being an airline employee all I have to do is whip out my airline ID and then I am no longer a selectee anymore.
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Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:41 am

You know, I used to be Chairman's Prefereed on USAirways for all the years they had that highest traveler designation. Having moved to the West Coast in late 1999 I no longer had a reason to travel on them. I usually make the highest each year on two other carriers. Maybe it was USAirway's way of punishing me for no longer traveling with them.

All kidding aside, if having to be a very frequent traveler is one way of "the system" not making a person a selectee, then that is one more way to harm the competitiveness of this industry.
 
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:54 am

Who Cares? It takes what... 5 minutes at most? Suck it up and deal. I've gotten it numerous times, if you've got nothing to hide... what's it hurting you?
 
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:58 am

You can thank the CAPPS (Computer Assisted Pax Pre-Screening) System for the quad-S's. Pax who check in the U.S. are run through the CAPPS system to determine if they are a selectee. For security reasons, I will not disclose the exact criteria for selection. Most are fairly obvious. Let's just say that everyone starts as a selectee and certain information in your PNR can exempt you from screening. Then after all of that, there are a certain amount of pax who are selected at random to make it "fair".

Here is a suggestion if you want to avoid SSSS status...join your airlines Frequent Flyer program and provide as much information as early as possible when you make your flight reservation.
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Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:10 am

There are a lot of qualifications that can result in a passenger receiving this "honor". Our bag tags used to actually say something on them, now the SSSS you refer to probably makes it less obvious to a passenger before they get to security.

Items that can get you screened:
Last names that are ethnic or Middle-eastern sounding (racial profiling at its best)
One way ticket purchased
Tickets paid for in cash
No checked luggage - I think (?)

I know there's more but I don't recall the rest
 
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:18 am

I can't believe how much sarcasm there is from both sides on this thread and very few factual responses.

My understanding is that there are certain flags which will trigger an SSSS stamp, many of which have been discussed above, such as buying tickets at the last minute (particularly one-way), multi-city iteneraries, paying with cash, etc. But then there are also just a certain percentage of people who get randomly selected for no reason at all.

Of course the government isn't going to tell us exactly what tips off an SSSS designation. Then it would be pointless because people trying to do bad things would deliberately avoid those behaviors.

On UA, I think every time I or one of my friends have travelled on a "buddy pass," we've gotten tagged SSSS, both domestically and internationally. When I was still on employee passes, I would get pulled for additional screening as well if I was on an itenerary with a buddy, even though my pass didn't have SSSS.

Personally, I don't think it's that big of a deal, and sometimes--depending on the airport--it can be faster than the regular line. And while I agree that a lot of recently added security feels superficial, what are they supposed to do? If they do any sort of profiling, they get accused of being racist. If they make additional screening completely random, they get accused of violating civil liberties. The TSA/airlines can't win. My attitude is flying is a privilege, not a right. Like them or not, these days the rules of the game say if you fly and if you exhibit certain behaviors, you are going to get selected for additional screening. If you don't like those rules, then don't play the game. Go Greyhound or drive.

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Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:20 am

anytime i have had the SSSS designation, i have gotten thru security much faster than the regular line. Even in the regular line, you can get pulled over if you set the alarm off and essentially get the same screening you would get as if you went thru the SSSS screening.
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Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:31 am

Tornado82: this event took nearly two hours.
 
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:40 am

Got the SSSS on a trip from PDX to SFO on June 25th this year on Alaska. Actually went faster. Got pulled out of a loooooong line and was put in a much shorter one. Had to wait for my wife for ten minutes as she negotiated regular security. Big grin
 
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:24 am

I got the now-dreaded SSSS on my boarding pass once.

I was flying SAN-PHX on America West Express. My roommate at the time drove over the night before, and I was driving back with him later, so it was a one-way ticket. I bought my ticket seven days prior. I sent my luggage on ahead with my roommate, so I was travelling bagless.

I did not know these were all TSA's warning signs. I learned later that a good-natured attitude to TSA people is your most valuable weapon. I smiled and answered their questions about the purchase of the ticket as they double scanned me. Didn't have to go to a private room, luckily.

Haven't had that happen anymore, but that set of circumstances has never come up again.
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:48 am

If anyone's a fan of "Airline", there was an episode with a man who had the SSSS on his boarding pass. He was obviously foreign as judged by his accent. Anyways, he was complaining to a Southwest Supervisor that he was being treated un-fairly. In fact, at one point he actually referenced the SSSS to the treatment during the "Hitler Years". I think he took it a bit too far (OK, he was a complete nutcase!!!)! Nonetheless, the best thing you can do these days is just comply with everything that happens once you enter the terminal. At CYYZ, once you pass through the trans-border security, you are technically walking on US soil, so they must take security very seriously.
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:33 am

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
Does this incresed security ever happened to you?

Yes -- about 90 percent of the times I have flown non-rev on a particular airline who shall remain unnamed, and about 25 percent of the time I have flown non-rev on another airline who shall likewise remain anonymous. Several of my co-workers also report that they are almost always SSSSed when they non-rev on various other airlines.

Literally never have I been SSSSed in the many times I have flown non-rev on the airline for whom I work or when I have chosen to purchase a confirmed ticket (including the airline on whom I am SSSSed almost every time I non-rev with them).

Seems like there just might be a pattern of targeting other airline non-revs for the SSSS treatment...?
 
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:40 am

To basically all the replies:

I know security is the most important thing, specially in some countries. I love the US and that´s why I visit them so regularly. I´m not mad so much on TSA, Bush, USA or similar, who I´m mad to is basically CO. I fly them and DL inside the US. I always buy my tickets in their office, months ahead and I always pay with credit card.
With DL, I NEVER had this SSSS, but with CO, almost always. This is slowly descouraging me from flying CO in the future. I don´t think it is a concidence always getting choosen by CO to this additional screening.
This behavior get me to the idea that maybe there is an AIRLINE BLACK LIST which every airlines makes according to their own rubrics. Maybe I´m on CO´s black list by whichever reason (the last thing I recall is that before these screenings, I got twice said by a FA that I cannot take pics onboard a plane). I think that maybe THIS is the reason why I always get SSSS on CO flights and not on any others.
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:50 am

Quoting FlyHoss (Reply 2):
You're right, the SSSS means you're a "selectee" for enhanced security screening

Yes.... it bloody well does and I've tested it. I found some airlines worse than others... Delta was the guiltiest of the lot.

Back in 2003, I was based in Utah for a while, and obviously flew out of SLC (which often means delta for non-stops). I used to use either my Australian Passport or a European passport for checkin... AND ON DELTA WOULD ALWAYS GET SSSS.... so i got curious...and decided to use my Utah drivers licence as check in ID and put on an American accent. Guess what? NO SSSS!!!!!!

Now i'm am blonde and have blue eyes and speak english with a native British/Australian hybrid accent... both allied countries and both also terrorist targets!!!! The check in ppl are simply fricken simpletins....
 
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:50 am

Well, at least with the SSSS u know its some kind of system choosing you. The last time I was in Frankfurt, before I had even gotten my boarding pass, I was "randomly" picked from the line of 100 or so ppl for a nice little chat in the back. The guy, trying to not make it obvious, started by talking to the germans behind me asking them questions and such. At this point I knew i was going to the back. I was right, he then came to me and went on about how I was being "randomly" chosen to go to the back. I told him it was a nice coincedence that I was the only brown guy in the line. Either way, even after this incident, I got the harsh screening at security, not once, but twice in FRA, since I was on an american carrier. I guess I could get something in my shoes between the first security check point and the second one. My security nightmare continued when I arrived in Detroit, I got another super screening. Then when I returned to Ottawa my bags hadn't made it. When I got my bags back, there was a nice little note saying the TSA had opened my bag and had thus caused it to miss my connecting plane. I waited 4 hours in DTW, and it still missed the plane. Either way, I can understand having to go through some security, but having them tell me its "random" gets me pissed. I'm Canadian, born and raised, but obviously having a middle eastern name and a private pilots licsence is going to get me noticed. Thats life  Sad
 
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:54 am

Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 46):
AND ON DELTA WOULD ALWAYS GET SSSS....

Exactly the opposite experience as I had. See reply 45 for more.
I never get SSSS on Delta and always in Continental.
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RE: Ssss In Your Boarding Pass- Ever Happened To You?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:56 am

I dont belive it is entirely random, i think there are things that can trigger it. I allways get the SSSS code, literally, every time i fly. I book all my flights thru a dive shop (diving vacations) and hense carry lots of equipment. I havent flowen anywhere in the past few years without getting the Super Slow Silly Screening Big grin
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