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Do UK Airplanes Migrate In Winter?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:42 am

In the UK there is a heavy demand for non-schedule airline air travel to the Mediterranean in July/August. Where do the extra aircraft required come from and where do they migrate to in winter?  Smile
 
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RE: Do UK Airplanes Migrate In Winter?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:57 am

Quoting Art (Thread starter):
In the UK there is a heavy demand for non-schedule airline air travel to the Mediterranean in July/August. Where do the extra aircraft required come from and where do they migrate to in winter?

Skyservice of Canada have one their A319's operating from Stansted. Also First Choice Airways have leased two A320's from Canada.

Hope this helps

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RE: Do UK Airplanes Migrate In Winter?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:40 am

TCX usually send some to Apple Vacations for a few months, but charters usually become busy at the end of December, not only for the Christmas and New Year period and Santa day trips, but the ski charters too.

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RE: Do UK Airplanes Migrate In Winter?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:46 am

The past couple years USA3000 has wetleased a couple Thomas Cook A320s... using a hybrid scheme.
 
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RE: Do UK Airplanes Migrate In Winter?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:02 am

Some Mytravel and First Choice aircraft go to Skyservice, some Thomas Cook to Apple Vacations, some Excel aircraft go to Kelowna Flightcraft and Zoom.

Mytravel and Skyservice have an agreement, where Skyservice send aircraft over here in summer when the demand is higher, then they all get sent back + some MYT aircraft in the winter, where the demand is higher in Canada. With Excel, they send some of their aircraft over to Canadian operators in the winter, but lease from Islandsflug and Air Atlanta in the summer.
 
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RE: Do UK Airplanes Migrate In Winter?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:14 am

Hi,

there are a lot fewer 'spare' aircraft in winter than you might think, due to the UK ski holiday business, which lasts from mid December to Mid April.

The issue is really what happens to the aircraft in late Spring and Autumn - that's when useage will be at its lowest!

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RE: Do UK Airplanes Migrate In Winter?

Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:39 am

Dan-Air used to send their 727s to Sun Country for the winter...
 
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RE: Do UK Airplanes Migrate In Winter?

Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:42 am

Quoting Rivet42 (Reply 5):
there are a lot fewer 'spare' aircraft in winter than you might think, due to the UK ski holiday business, which lasts from mid December to Mid April.

True, but the ski flights only occur mainly on saturdays and sundays. Also the ski flights in the winter, are much shorter than the greek flights in the summer, so they can fit more or as many flights in, with less aircraft. To be honest, not that many aircraft are leased off over the winter, but during the low season weekdays, a lot of aircraft will be sitting idle at Gatwick/Manchester etc for days at a time.

The agreement between Skyservice and Mytravel benefits both airlines, as they both have extra aircraft when they most need it
 
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RE: Do UK Airplanes Migrate In Winter?

Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:09 am

Quoting PM (Reply 6):
Dan-Air used to send their 727s to Sun Country for the winter...

Now Transavia supplies Sun Country with planes, 738s. Usually they stay in HV livery but get Sun Country titles. From time to time HV leases planes from Sun Country, like last summer.
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RE: Do UK Airplanes Migrate In Winter?

Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:16 am

Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 4):
With Excel, they send some of their aircraft over to Canadian operators in the winter, but lease from Islandsflug and Air Atlanta in the summer.

Note that Excel, Islandsflug and Air Atlanta are all the same company now.
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RE: Do UK Airplanes Migrate In Winter?

Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:30 am

Don't forget that aside from the ski charters, there are also the private charters for company charters etc that take place - and there are more of those than you would think!

It is extremely difficult to get availability in the summer as they are already committed to the tour operators, but in the winter there is more availability so a number are used for those!