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Biman Banglasdesh DC-10 JFK-BRU-DAC

Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:49 pm

Does anyone know for how long BG is still going to be flying DC-10's out of JFK?. Apparently BG flights are fully booked most of the time. Also they have had many technical problems with their DC-10's and have heard that BG was interested in buying other aircraft.

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RE: Biman Banglasdesh DC-10 JFK-BRU-DAC

Wed Oct 12, 2005 5:19 pm

The BRU stop is a dog for BG (their view, not mine). They want to do it from AMS but the competition is too strong to the US (hence out of BRU). Ideally they would like to do it over London but they struggle for slots. Also their punctuality at LHR would mean they would lose their slots under the rules.

They pick up very few pax at BRU to NYC and the stop is effectively a tech-stop.
 
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RE: Biman Banglasdesh DC-10 JFK-BRU-DAC

Wed Oct 12, 2005 5:49 pm

due to fuel taxes and fees, it's impossible to get from Amsterdam to New York for anything below € 480 inclusive even in low season (November). Only a few years ago, € 250 including taxes was always possible AMS-NYC.
So I think BG would be welcome back in Amsterdam  Wink
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RE: Biman Banglasdesh DC-10 JFK-BRU-DAC

Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:31 pm

Airevents.com offer an excellent fare on this flight if you book through their website. I'm seriously tempted to fly them next year, especially if they still have DC-10's!!  bouncy 
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RE: Biman Banglasdesh DC-10 JFK-BRU-DAC

Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:45 pm

Quoting Meridian (Reply 3):
Airevents.com offer an excellent fare on this flight if you book through their website. I'm seriously tempted to fly them next year, especially if they still have DC-10's!!

And for a few EUR more, you fly in Business Class... It's not BA, but hey..

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RE: Biman Banglasdesh DC-10 JFK-BRU-DAC

Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:54 pm

AMS do not want it because of the problems of handling transit passengers and also poor puntuality. AMS is glad to see the back of some transit flights because of pax handling issues.
 
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RE: Biman Banglasdesh DC-10 JFK-BRU-DAC

Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:15 pm

Does New York have a large Bangladeshi community?
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RE: Biman Banglasdesh DC-10 JFK-BRU-DAC

Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:05 pm

Quoting Billy (Reply 1):
They want to do it from AMS but the competition is too strong to the US (hence out of BRU). Ideally they would like to do it over London but they struggle for slots.

Partly true. They would like to fly LHR-JFK but of course Bermuda III does not allow that. They dropped AMS for a different reason. When KLM introduced flights to DAC, KLM was taking away a lot of Bangladesh bound passengers from the UK. KLM wanted their own grond handlings in DAC, but Biman -- which provies all foreign carriers handling services in DAC, refused. The dispute lead to the Dutch and Bangladeshi authorities to withdrawing bilaterals and Biman swiching DAC-AMS-JFK service to DAC-BRU-JFK. BG lost a good revenue stream as AMS-JFK had a lot more traffic than BRU-JFK does.

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 6):
Does New York have a large Bangladeshi community?

Yeah. Some say around 200,000 in greater areas. Definitely over 100,000. Astoria, Jackson Heights, Jamaica in Queens and parts of the Bronx and Brooklyn have very large Bangladeshi communities.

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RE: Biman Banglasdesh DC-10 JFK-BRU-DAC

Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:59 am

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 2):
due to fuel taxes and fees, it's impossible to get from Amsterdam to New York for anything below € 480 inclusive even in low season (November). Only a few years ago, € 250 including taxes was always possible AMS-NYC.
So I think BG would be welcome back in Amsterdam

Are you sure? Because I am flying KLM (JFK-AMS-JFK) on Oct 20/23 for $520. That is less than Euro 480!
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RE: Biman Banglasdesh DC-10 JFK-BRU-DAC

Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:23 am

Given the Bengali population in England, If they were to fly to JFK via STN or LTN or BHX or MAN, flights would do good. They don't need LHR enroute to JFK.
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RE: Biman Banglasdesh DC-10 JFK-BRU-DAC

Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:34 am

Quoting Schipholjfk (Reply 8):
Are you sure? Because I am flying KLM (JFK-AMS-JFK) on Oct 20/23 for $520. That is less than Euro 480!

You booked through the net?

At our agency, seeing that EUR 35.00 is a service fee to East coast US, it's the same...

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RE: Biman Banglasdesh DC-10 JFK-BRU-DAC

Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:23 am

Quoting Schipholjfk (Reply 8):
Are you sure? Because I am flying KLM (JFK-AMS-JFK) on Oct 20/23 for $520. That is less than Euro 480!

KLM might have different prices for US originating passengers, also the landing fees of NYC-AMS-NYC can be different then AMS-NYC-AMS.
You might also have booked before the fuel surcharge went up to 50 euro for each sector.
If I book their special 299 Euro AMS-NYC tariff (saturday stayover) in november straight on the KLM website (so without added agents costs), I get a total price of 478,05 Euro, including 69,05 taxes, 100 fuel surcharge and 10 reservation costs.
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RE: Biman Banglasdesh DC-10 JFK-BRU-DAC

Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:17 am

I recall that they lost a DC10 recently, I think that it was scrapped after leaving the runway on landing.

Have they replaced it yet, if not scheduling must have been affected.
 
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RE: Biman Banglasdesh DC-10 JFK-BRU-DAC

Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:07 am

Quoting AMS (Thread starter):
have heard that BG was interested in buying other aircraft.

They are planning to acquire six Airbus A330s and four Boeing 777s.
http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1111660372.html
This undated article states that they will arrive next year...
http://www.bangladeshinfo.com/business/headline_news.php?nid=8248

No idea whether this actually is going to happen though.

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