glidepath73
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ZRH - Among The Three Best Airports Worldwide

Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:09 pm

Hi!

The website of ZRH states the following in the news section:

>>With the completion of expansion stage 5, Zurich Airport has become one of the most important and most attractive civil aviation hubs in Europe. According to current passenger surveys, it is now among the best three airports in the world, but in order to maintain this position in the future, a variety of measures will have to be implemented, including the ongoing inspection and maintenance of all installations and facilities.<<

http://www.zurich-airport.com (go to: Your insight)

I think it's really true. The new facilities are just awsome in ZRH. I feel really comfortable in the new "Airside Center" and the "Dock E".

What's your lately expieriences in ZRH?

Regards,
Patrick
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Wed Oct 12, 2005 5:59 pm

It is indeed an awesome airport- the best in Europe, IMHO.

Connecting there is a breeze; shopping is good and the Airside Center is a wonderful design. There are also good shops and facilities landside. I think that ZRH is truly unique in that they actually welcome visitors to the airport on their website.

A range of Unique Airport branded goods is also available for sale in the arrivals hall.

I have spent many happy times at the longest airport bar in the world- inside the Swiss Business lounge in the Airside Center.

ZRH+LX is a great formula!
 
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Wed Oct 12, 2005 6:07 pm

Quoting Cambrian (Reply 1):
There are also good shops and facilities landside. I think that ZRH is truly unique in that they actually welcome visitors to the airport on their website.

Thats really true, the shoppingcenter landside makes fun to go for....
And they really welcome spotters in ZRH. The spotting facilities are amazing as well. (Terrace Dock B and E, bus airport tours and a lot of other for spotters prepared places around the fence)

I'm always amazed how quick I get my luggage back in ZRH... Once, the luggage was there on the belt before me!

Regards,
Patrick
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Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:42 pm

Actually Im not even that surprised. ZRH has always been as superb airport. I guess the two visitor terraces really add to this. Everything runs smoothly: security, baggage handling, check-in, Terminal transportation, etc. and everyone is basically always very friendly, even the security.
The only thing that has not been rated so positivly are the delays on take-off. the average delay per flight is 37 min. But the delays are a result of the usage of the German airspace.
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Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:04 pm

Well, I am absolutely pleased with my home airport and I am glad that ZRH's reputation has not suffered against all odds -

What I personally like best is that one can get out of super fast and that the public transport system is fabulous. Once, when I was in a hurry I managed to go through passport control, take my luggage from the claim, clear customs (green channel) and catch my train in the subterranean railway station in a mere 10 minutes...

and from an enthusiast's and photographer's point of view it is indeed heaven.

It is nice to observe that the post 9/11 measurements are performed with care and without unnecessary hassle.


ZRH makes an effort to please its customers.


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Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:07 pm

well, I cant quite understand that there is no Lufthansa/Staralliance Business lounge. One should think thats mandatory for a destination like zurich.

what shocked me also was the incredibly low passenger traffic when i connected there in september. ZRH seems to be pretty down in pax figures, since SwissAir is gone.
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RE: ZRH - Among The Three Best Airports Worldwide

Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:11 pm

Quoting Macc (Reply 5):
I cant quite understand that there is no Lufthansa/Staralliance Business lounge

There is one in Terminal B. It has been there for some time and was actually the world´s first lounge in StarAlliance design.

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Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:38 pm

Quoting Macc (Reply 5):
well, I cant quite understand that there is no Lufthansa/Staralliance Business lounge. One should think thats mandatory for a destination like zurich.

Don't worry there will be soon a new one, when all Star Alliance airlines change into Terminal 1. I think the Swiss lounge will become Star Alliance. I have to agree, after finishing the construction works the airport is very convenient and fast to connect. At the opening of Dock E some people complained that it is far away but with the people mover you are there very fast, even faster than to many A-Gates. The trains run every two minutes and it takes only 90 seconds out there. It is also amazing how fast the baggage claim is, even when you arrive at the E-Gates. A few Weeks ago I arrived there. 10 minutes after deboarding I already cleared immigration and was at the baggage belt. 5 minutes later my suitcase was there, after an other ten minutes I caught a train into the city which took me a ten minutes ride: only 35 minutes from deboarding at the E-Gates to the city center incl. customs, baggage claim and train ride! This is outstanding.
The Airside Center is really beautiful to wait, shop or spot. It has plenty of restaurants, shops and bars, has huge windows which makes the building very bright.

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Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:45 pm

Quoting Macc (Reply 5):
what shocked me also was the incredibly low passenger traffic when i connected there in september. ZRH seems to be pretty down in pax figures, since SwissAir is gone.

Yes, the pax figures went down from 22 millions to 17 millions p a after the Swissair bankruptcy and 9/11. At the moment they are increasing steadily, this year they expect again more than 18 millions. It of course depends when you are there. In the morning and at noon it is rather crowded, about between 14.30 and 16.30 it is quiet and later in the afternoon and evening there are more passengers again.
 
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Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:46 pm

ZRH is indeed an excellent airport. Not oversized and also not too small. Just the perfect size  Smile


Quoting ZRH" class=quote target=_blank>ZRH (Reply 7):
At the opening of Dock E some people complained that it is far away but with the people mover you are there very fast, even faster than to many A-Gates.

Just shows you how spoilt and lazy people are nowadays, but I also got the impression that it was more the media as usual trying to make Unique look bad.
 
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Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:00 pm

Quoting Aviationmaster (Reply 9):
Just shows you how spoilt and lazy people are nowadays, but I also got the impression that it was more the media as usual trying to make Unique look bad.

Yes you are right. The medias always criticize every move Zurich Airport (Unique) makes and a lot of people only copy them without making their own experiences. Many things are not in the sphere of influence of the airport authorities, for example the delays because of airspace (Germany) it is matter of politics.
BTW you are faster at the E-Gates than when you have to walk or use the moving walk-ways to the farthest A-Gates.
 
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Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:44 pm

the star alliance lounge in B is only for GOLD members.

and I connected in the evening SAA to JNB and on return in the morning.
both times it was unusual quiet.

the airport itself was nice. and the people mover connects quite well. would like to see VIE improving from this provinciality...
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Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:01 pm

Quoting Macc (Reply 11):
and I connected in the evening SAA to JNB and on return in the morning.
both times it was unusual quiet.

This is very possible. Actually peak times are between 1000 and 1400 and less between 1600 and 1900 (as I know take or give an hour). As the SAA flight arrives at 0705 and leaves at 2025 it is quiet of course.
 
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Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:02 pm

Quoting Macc (Reply 11):
and I connected in the evening SAA to JNB and on return in the morning.
both times it was unusual quiet.

It's even comfortable not to have all the time a totally overcrowded terminal or transit area. Sometimes on airports, you can't even free walk how you would like, cause there permanent people in your way.

The passengers will further increase in the next years in ZRH. The times during the day, in which you'll find a almost empty airport, will be reduced more and more then.

Regards,
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Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:17 pm

It is indeed very good to see such nice compliments about Swiss aviation. This gives to all of us, working in this business, a big motivation. Let's all do our best to bring the glory days back as soon as possible  Wink
 
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Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:18 pm

Quoting Aviationmaster (Reply 9):
Not oversized and also not too small. Just the perfect size

Excuse me, but it is 'a little' overbuild. Yes, it is beautiful, but the airport is a financial disaster. It is build to handle 30 million passengers, but it will probably only handle 20 this year. Some over capacity is no problem, but operating at 2/3 is not healthy.
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Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:42 pm

Quoting Bassie2010 (Reply 15):
Excuse me, but it is 'a little' overbuild. Yes, it is beautiful, but the airport is a financial disaster. It is build to handle 30 million passengers, but it will probably only handle 20 this year. Some over capacity is no problem, but operating at 2/3 is not healthy.

The airport management realized early, while they extended the airport that it might be to big after SR went down, and world traffic decreased past 9/11.
That was one reason why UNIQUE decided to close temporarily the Dock B and almost all gates there, by side the bus gates. (Dock B got converted to the "EVENTDOCK")

Therefore, I think the capacity right now is not oversized. It's just comfortable to have a bit more space available for the growing traffic in the future.

Regards,
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Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:09 pm

Quoting Macc (Reply 11):
the star alliance lounge in B is only for GOLD members

Well, I am SILVER member and have no problems getting in there regularly.

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Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:12 pm

I've always loved Zurich airport and doesn't surprise me at all.

Quoting ZRH (Reply 8):
Yes, the pax figures went down from 22 millions to 17 millions p a after the Swissair bankruptcy and 9/11. At the moment they are increasing steadily, this year they expect again more than 18 millions

Wow, close enough to DUB... also about 18 million a year... and it's a complete disaster. Could you lend us some of your airport managers to teach the DAA (Dublin Airport Authority) how to build/run an airport...

Changing subjet, but since this thread has lots of Swiss posters, while I'm p***ed of with you all this morning, I must congratulate on last night's match at Lansdowne Road in Dublin. Just to show you how us Irish feel, I sent my 19 year-old nephew, a huge football fan, an sms last night after the match, saying what a pity about the match, so now we'll just have to hope for 2010... his response: First email regarding 2010: "Yeah right, unless we have a completely new squad! DON'T THINK SO"... second sms: "Excuse me (he doesn't like cursing in front of his uncle (me)!, but they (us, Ireland) were fu**ing terrible! They don't deservve to be in the World Cup".
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Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:53 pm

Quoting Bassie2010 (Reply 15):
Excuse me, but it is 'a little' overbuild. Yes, it is beautiful, but the airport is a financial disaster. It is build to handle 30 million passengers, but it will probably only handle 20 this year. Some over capacity is no problem, but operating at 2/3 is not healthy.

I know it's not all that healthy when the airport is overbuilt, but I was looking at it from a passengers view and not from the financial side  Wink

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 18):

Changing subjet, but since this thread has lots of Swiss posters, while I'm p***ed of with you all this morning, I must congratulate on last night's match at Lansdowne Road in Dublin.

Thanks!  Smile To be honest with you, I'm not all too happy at our performance last night, since we had about 2 or 3 huge chances to decide the game (which would have been enough to qualify) and now in the playoffs we have to play against either Spain, Czech Republic or Turkey  Sad The only plus is that there is a slight chance of attending the home game. As for the Irish team, you will recover as time moves on. Switzerland went through a smilar phase after the 96 Euro.
 
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RE: ZRH - Among The Three Best Airports Worldwide

Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:01 pm

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 18):
Wow, close enough to DUB... also about 18 million a year... and it's a complete disaster.

I unfortunately have to agree with you. I flew twice to DUB within one year (holidays on the River Erne with a cruiser boat) and we had to wait both times almost an hour for our luggage (perhaps we are spoiled because here it usually comes very fast). This year the airbridge did not work and the captain had to order stairs. When they came after about 15 minutes the passengers got off but nobody of the airport authorities was there to show us the entrance into the building. So we walked like a flock of sheep to the terminal and did not find an open door. We had to go back to where the airbridge ends and there was a rusty door and narrow staircases. For me it was fun because I am an aviation fan and like to walk on the apron but not all passengers liked it. But nevertheless Ireland is a beautiful country.

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 18):
Changing subjet, but since this thread has lots of Swiss posters, while I'm p***ed of with you all this morning, I must congratulate on last night's match at Lansdowne Road in Dublin. Just to show you how us Irish feel, I sent my 19 year-old nephew, a huge football fan, an sms last night after the match, saying what a pity about the match, so now we'll just have to hope for 2010... his response: First email regarding 2010: "Yeah right, unless we have a completely new squad! DON'T THINK SO"... second sms: "Excuse me (he doesn't like cursing in front of his uncle (me)!, but they (us, Ireland) were fu**ing terrible! They don't deservve to be in the World Cup".



Quoting Aviationmaster (Reply 19):
Thanks! To be honest with you, I'm not all too happy at our performance last night, since we had about 2 or 3 huge chances to decide the game (which would have been enough to qualify) and now in the playoffs we have to play against either Spain, Czech Republic or Turkey The only plus is that there is a slight chance of attending the home game. As for the Irish team, you will recover as time moves on. Switzerland went through a smilar phase after the 96 Euro.

Thanks for your congrats. But as my fellow Swiss I was a little bit disappointed. One goal and we could have won the group. But I am optimistic to win over Spain, Czech Republic or Turkey...  Wink
 
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Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:31 pm

Quoting Bassie2010 (Reply 15):
but the airport is a financial disaster

You might want to look up the performance of the Unique shares and bonds on the Swiss stock exchange.

They have been among the top performers in the past two years. I wish I had put my money in this company.

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Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:17 pm

Hi!

I have to give also my comment to ZRH. I've been going to ZRH since 1987 regulary and that airport always make feel good! I still saw ZRH in the glory days with a lot of airlines, and beeing very buzzy! I got a few delays leaving ZRH due to traffic! I also think the ZRH have a great train network to the rest of Switzerland and that impresses me a lot!!! It's unbelievable the fact that you can board a train in a small swiss village and get right to ZRH airport! I got that experience in December 2002 on transit from LIS to LAX I stayed one night with some friends at a place called Oberdiessbach in the Canton de Berne! Next morning I left Oberdiessbach to LAX and the train connection was just... fantastic!!!
Last time I was there was December 2003 and I already saw the new terminal, I actually used it, very modern, lot's of space and light and of course has a trademark of ZRH my luggage was already there going around when I got to the luggage station..... I've visited a few airports but ZRH is also on the top on that!
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:17 am

Quoting ZRH (Reply 20):
and we had to wait both times almost an hour for our luggage

Only an hour!!! That's not bad for DUB...

Good luck in the play-offs my Swiss friends.
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:45 am

Quoting HAJFlyer (Reply 21):
You might want to look up the performance of the Unique shares and bonds on the Swiss stock exchange.

They have been among the top performers in the past two years. I wish I had put my money in this company.

Just looked in the 2004 annual report of Unique: net proft over 2004: 17 million swiss franks or 11.4 million euro. Not even a euro net profit per passenger. Compare that to other major airports and I doubt you can call it a top performer.

As I said: beautiful airport, but too much over capacity since the collapse of Swiss. Unique has taken measures, sure, but they can't hide the fact that they have to depreciate a lot of infrastructure that they don't use.
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:59 am

Quoting Bassie2010 (Reply 24):
Just looked in the 2004 annual report of Unique: net proft over 2004: 17 million swiss franks or 11.4 million euro. Not even a euro net profit per passenger. Compare that to other major airports and I doubt you can call it a top performer.

Sorry for not expressing myself precisely enough. The term "top performer" was meant to qualify only the stunning rise in the price of its shares and not its overall financial performance.

Quoting Bassie2010 (Reply 24):
but they can't hide the fact that they have to depreciate a lot of infrastructure that they don't use

I would say "underutilise" would be a more appropriate term as Unique has demonstrated an amazing creativity when its comes to using its assets. The conversion of the old dock B into the "Event Dock" is just one example.

Of course you are right in stating that all the new infrastructure that was build as part of "fifth expansion phase" will have to be depreciated and this will weigh on their earnings for years to come. However thanks to some smart refinancing of their debt involving private placements, they did manage to reduce their interest rate cost and achieve a more balanced maturity profile.
 
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:09 am

A profit of 17 million Francs might not seem as much when compared with other airports, but it is an excellent result, considering what Unique has had to go through in the past five years (9/11, SR bankruptcy, constant LX downsizing, "Flüglärmstreit"...).
 
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:11 am

Patrick,

A top airport, I can agree !!! (as seen by myself during the A.net meet last Summer): it's even organizing bus-trips through the various areas - not many airports do this for visitors; a VERY (spotters/visitors) friendly airport, especially Dock E is excellent...

(when will be the next A.net meet ???)
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:12 am

Quoting DeltaWings (Reply 3):
But the delays are a result of the usage of the German airspace.

That's a sensitive one, but on topic indeed!

I like ZRH very much!
You ARE a passenger over there, not an item like on AMS/CDG/LHR/FRA.

The only thing that isn't quite attractive at ZRH are the huge concrete walls in the Airside Center and E pier, it gives an unfinished look in my eyes...
But that is personal off course, everithing is very clean, the lounges are exellent; those lights in the floor like a taxiway to show your way to the E pier lounge is very cool!
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:32 pm

Quoting MH017 (Reply 27):
(when will be the next A.net meet ???)

I try to plan a winter A.NET meeting in ZRH. This is not easy since the weather is not very stable in ZRH in winter. Let's see how it goes.  Smile
The best would be to have the meeting while snowfall messes up the airport.
Very cool to see the conga- snowblowers to clear up the taxi- and runways.

Regards,
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:37 pm

Quoting Glidepath73 (Reply 29):
I try to plan a winter A.NET meeting in ZRH

 bigthumbsup 

Keeps us posted on your plans.

ZRH can be truly great place in winter especially in January when its is usually cold enough to have dry blowing powder and not just wet sleet.
 
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:19 pm

Very good idea. If somehow possible I will join again. With snowfall it would be great but, as you know, we have here very seldom heavy snowfall.
 
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:43 pm

I'm not surprised to find ZRH among the top three. There may be a reason for this: on Sunday, the city is literally asleep. Nothing seems to be going on. It's crazy but true. On Sundays, my parents frequently take me to ZRH because all the other places outside the airport are closed. The very first time my dad went there was about four years ago and he was shocked that "the entire damn city" showed up. ZRH was totally jampacked. He was more shocked that even the bank was open. There was a VERY long line there, most likely people depositing their pay checks (do most Swiss get paid on Fridays or Saturdays?) I have never seen an airport so crowded on a Sunday. It leads me to think: they better make sure it has excellent facilities or everyone will be miserable. ZRH is fantastic. It's easy to get around and is very clean and efficient. I've been to too many overrated airports but ZRH is for real. The only thing bad is the Nordsee seafood restaurant. The fish is stiff and tasteless. Avoid it.
Glidepath73, try to have that meeting on a weekday. Sunday, it will be pretty jampacked and it will be hell trying to find a parking space. Remember, the whole city seems to show up on that day!  biggrin 
 
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:54 pm

Quoting Swisskloten (Reply 32):
On Sundays, my parents frequently take me to ZRH because all the other places outside the airport are closed.

I guess the main reason for this are the very restrictive laws regarding opening owners of retail shops. Besides gas station convenience stores only some shops at Zurich main station as well as at ZRH are allowed to open on Sundays. The fifth expansion phase has brought ZRH a large number of land side shops including a grocery store and restaurants and this has actually turned ZRH into a weekend destination in its own right.

What amazes me is the fact that the outrageous parking fees at ZRH are evidently not so high as to dent peoples enthusiasm to flock to ZRH on Sundays

If the Swiss laws were ever relaxed - and with way things are going I will probably be retired before that happens - Unique and the shop owners at the land side mall would probably be hurt pretty bad.
 
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Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:32 am

Quoting Swisskloten (Reply 32):
ZRH was totally jampacked

I heard somewhere, that ZRH is the second most visited place in Switzerland.
(Observation decks)
Is that true? Amazing, if we regard all those amazing and stunning nice places in Switzerland.

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Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:22 am

Quoting Swisskloten (Reply 32):
There was a VERY long line there, most likely people depositing their pay checks (do most Swiss get paid on Fridays or Saturdays?) I

Pay check???  Actually NO Swiss gets paid by a check. This is only a weird old fashioned US method. Here everybody gets his/her money onto a bank account at end of the month and not every week. Most people here even don't know what a pay check is.
In our days a the main station in the city center about 140 stores are opened on Sundays.

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Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:30 am

Quoting ZRH (Reply 35):
Pay check??? Actually NO Swiss gets paid by a check. This is only a weird old fashioned US method. Here everybody gets his/her money onto a bank account at end of the month and not every week. Most people here even don't know what a pay check is.
In our days a the main station in the city center about 140 stores are opened on Sundays.

LOL!

I think you need to have a bank account before you even can work!
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Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:42 am

I will be visiting ZRH (on business) in two weeks, and I am looking forward to it. Do you know if the train to Zug leaves directly from the airport? That is where our company's office is.
 
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Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:46 am

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 36):
LOL!

I think you need to have a bank account before you even can work!

LOL, yes perhaps. No seriously, to pay the salary with a check is really very old fashioned. I think you would not find here any employer who would pay with a check. Actually everybody has a bank or post account. It is also more practical and less dangerous. You have the money on the bank and can withdraw it at ATMs and it can't get stolen like a check. Also for other things checks are almost unknown in Switzerland. Either you use cards, cash or pay from your account (e.g. via Internet).
 
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RE: ZRH - Among The Three Best Airports Worldwide

Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:49 am

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 37):
Do you know if the train to Zug leaves directly from the airport? That is where our company's office is.

Travelin man, there is one direct train every hour leaving at xx:47 at the underground railway station under the airport.

If that one is inconvenient for you, there are lots of other options by changing trains at Zurich main station. You will find monitors with the up to date departure times in the baggage claim area. For further information on train schedules go to www.sbb.ch

Hope this helps.

Enjoy your trip to Sowtzerland
 
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RE: ZRH - Among The Three Best Airports Worldwide

Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:56 am

Quoting HAJFlyer (Reply 39):

Thank you for the information HAJFlyer. It will be my first visit to Switzerland in over 10 years, and my first ever to ZRH. (I went to GVA with a tour group in College).
 
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RE: ZRH - Among The Three Best Airports Worldwide

Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:17 am

HAJflyer is absolutely correct. Here only an example which trains you have between Zurich Airport and Zug (it is every day and hour the same):

Station Dep/Arr Time Change Train
1 Zürich Flughafen ab 09:47 0:41 0
Zug an 10:28

2 Zürich Flughafen ab 10:13 0:48 1
Zug an 11:01

3 Zürich Flughafen ab 10:20 1:04 1
Zug an 11:24

4 Zürich Flughafen ab 10:47 0:41 0
Zug an 11:28

As said you have one train per hour without changing trains (XX:47, time of journey 41 minutes) and two where you have to change at Zurich Main Station (XX:13; 48 min; XX:20 1h 04 min: not recommended).
 
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RE: ZRH - Among The Three Best Airports Worldwide

Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:11 am

Quoting HAJFlyer (Reply 33):

I guess the main reason for this are the very restrictive laws regarding opening owners of retail shops. Besides gas station convenience stores only some shops at Zurich main station as well as at ZRH are allowed to open on Sundays

So why do they do this? It can't hurt the Swiss economy to have a few stores open on Sundays can it?
 
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RE: ZRH - Among The Three Best Airports Worldwide

Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:28 pm

Quoting Swisskloten (Reply 42):
So why do they do this? It can't hurt the Swiss economy to have a few stores open on Sundays can it?

There's a large majority saying that people aren't supposed to work un Sunday, and that there might be abuses by shop-owners forcing employees to work on Sunday. The Swiss population seems to believe this, and until this doesn't change, stores will remain closed on Sunday...
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RE: ZRH - Among The Three Best Airports Worldwide

Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:31 am

Quoting ManuCH (Reply 43):
There's a large majority saying that people aren't supposed to work un Sunday, and that there might be abuses by shop-owners forcing employees to work on Sunday. The Swiss population seems to believe this, and until this doesn't change, stores will remain closed on Sunday...

Same here in Belgium,
but for the fortunate ones that need to work on sundays (like airport jobs!) earn that day double!

So no need to change it for me (for now)  Wink
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RE: ZRH - Among The Three Best Airports Worldwide

Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:20 am

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 44):

Same here in Belgium,
but for the fortunate ones that need to work on sundays (like airport jobs!) earn that day double!

Double!? Damn, I need to move to Brussels soon! I've been there twice. It's a great city. Swisser, does anyone know why the Belgians absof*ckinlutely refuse to yield? Just walk down the street and look at the cars. The front left or right side over other car was dented in. Obviously, the Belgians never hesitate when they play chicken! My dad could not believe his eyes when he counted how many cars were dented in the front.

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