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What On Earth Is This?

Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:54 am

can anyone tell me?

Any more background info etc?

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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:55 am

center tank from the energia rocket system???
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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:55 am

isnt that the external tank for the russian shuttle?.. kinda like the NASA one
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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:55 am

Really inefficient engines on those old Russian birds. It is an optional fuel tank so that the aircraft can fly intercontinentally.
 
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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:57 am

Quoting Zweed (Thread starter):
can anyone tell me?

Vodka!
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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:57 am

and what kind of aircraft is it?
 
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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:59 am

M4 Myachiev bison also used for transporting the buran?
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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:06 am

It's obviously the Russian's response to the A380. I'll bet you could get 500+ pax in that thing. And that's with seats! Imagine what you could fit if you just dumped 'em in!
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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:26 am

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 4):
Vodka!

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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:31 am

Must be for the Russian Space Shuttle, believe it is called the Boran. Forgive me if I have spelled it wrong.
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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:16 am

Quoting NightFlier (Reply 9):
Must be for the Russian Space Shuttle, believe it is called the Boran. Forgive me if I have spelled it wrong.

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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:22 am

I can't believe that thing got airborne. The Russian's sure have balls. Must be hell in a cross wind. By the way, Can anyone tell me if the Russian shuttle ever went into space? If so, how many times?
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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:25 am

I don't think Buran ever flew more than once. It never flew with a crew. It was just too expensive to lift and recover. It now sits in a park as a tourist attraction.
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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:45 pm

This is the weirdest looking blimp I've seen.
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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:15 am

Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 3):
Really inefficient engines on those old Russian birds. It is an optional fuel tank so that the aircraft can fly intercontinentally.

Funny stuff.

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 4):
Vodka!

Very funny stuff.

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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:21 am

The only remainnig Buran, was distroyed in 2002.

Quoted from Wikipedia - Copyright Wikipedia

'The completed shuttles 1.01 (11F35 K1, "Buran") and 1.02 (11F35 K2, informal "Ptichka"), and the remains of the project are now property of Kazakhstan. In 2002, the hangar housing the sole space-flown Buran 1.01 orbiter and a mockup of the Energiya booster rocket collapsed due to incomplete maintenance, destroying the vehicle. Eight workers were also killed in the collapse of the building's roof.'

Picture of Hangar.
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2169/burandamaged7jm.jpg

Article on the Buran - The above article is under 'Aftermath'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buran

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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:29 am

Ok. Let's clear this one out

The cargo is a probably section for the Energia rocket, which was designed for use with Buran (Russian Shuttle) and other things. For those into trivia, Buran means "Snowstorm". Buran flew once on an unmanned mission. The project was canceled along with the Soviet Union.

The plane is the Myasischev VM-T Atlant. It's derived from the Myasischev M-4 Molot ("Bison") bomber (the first Soviet jet bomber). There are two Atlants and they are used for oversized loads.

EDIT: I was wrong. Buran was in fact flown on the Atlant.

[Edited 2005-10-13 21:33:57]
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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:31 am

Quoting Zweed (Thread starter):
can anyone tell me?

Any more background info etc?

It is this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myasishchev_VM-T

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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:41 am

Quoting NightFlier (Reply 9):
Must be for the Russian Space Shuttle, believe it is called the Boran. Forgive me if I have spelled it wrong.

Russian Space Shuttle was transported using Mriya:

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Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 15):
The only remainnig Buran, was distroyed in 2002.

There was only one built.
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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:44 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 11):
I can't believe that thing got airborne. The Russian's sure have balls. Must be hell in a cross wind. By the way, Can anyone tell me if the Russian shuttle ever went into space? If so, how many times?

Well, I think it's kinda ballsy letting a US Space Shuttle ride piggy back on a 747... If we didn't have balls, we wouldn't be here (a regrettable pun...).

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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:51 am

There was a project back in the beginning of the 90s to stick a container of very similar proportions and shape onto the An-225's back to serve as an extended cargo space for outsized loads that wouldn't be able to fit into the main cargo bay. Maybe that's it, though I don't really know if it was tested on the Atlant.
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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:03 am

The tank in question is the center liquid propellant tank for the Energia launch vehicle. The Energia was used to launch the Buran and one other military satellite. Both launches were successful, but the satellite mission ended in failure as the guidance computers on the satellite failed to insert it into the correct orbit and it re-entered the atmosphere before it could be of use.

The Buran made one space flight, it took off, orbited twice and landed without a crew on-board. Then the Russian space program ran out of money to fund the project and it got the axe.

Three interesting things of note.

  • Its only space flight was on November 15th, 1988.
  • The Energia launch vehicle that it used was the most powerful and one of the most successful liquid fueled launch vehicle ever built. The Russians were liquid fuel aces because that was the only launch technology they ever used. They had used less efficient liquid propellants at first, but then, when they decided to use Liquid Oxygen (LOX) and Liquid Hydrogen (LH), the most powerful liquid fuel combination found to date, they managed to make the most powerful launch vehicle ever.
  • The Buran took off with a 40 kt crosswind blowing at the time of launch. NASA cancels if it has 10 kt or more. Just goes to show you how powerful and well built the vehicle was.

This is a good link to more Buran information:
Buran Facts

And this is a good link to some more pictures and some facts on the Energia:
Buran and Energia Facts and Pics
There are also more good links at the bottem of this link.

Hope that answers some of your questions.

Edited for spelling...stupid me...

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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:09 am

Quoting Levg79 (Reply 18):
There was only one built.

And this is not true, there were actually four in various stages of construction, three that made it all the way to completion. One was the flight model, the AeroBuran, without the engines and other stuff for aerodynamic testing purposes. The one that actually flew and one other that never saw a lauch pad but could have been made lauch ready rounded out the completed ones.
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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:07 am

The one with the engine on, was in Austrellia, but the guy who owned it went bankrupt.

It was found in Bahrain in 2003/4 by Seinhiem Technik Museum and they brought it.

Is going to be taken to Seinhiem during 2005/6.

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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:20 am

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 4):
Vodka!

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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:24 am

No no no.... You know when you have to go to the doctor because that rash in the place you can't mention won't go away?....


Well thats the pill you have to take to get it to go away  duck 


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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:27 am

Quoting Typhaerion (Reply 21):
The Buran made one space flight, it took off, orbited twice and landed without a crew on-board.

Having also taken off without a crew onboard, obviously!  Smile
 
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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:19 am

Quoting Levg79 (Reply 18):

Russian Space Shuttle was transported using Mriya:

Before Mriya went into service in 1989, Buran was transported using the Myasischev VM-T Atlant.
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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:46 am

I heard that another Buran will come to Speyer, the German museum that also has one LH742. They also are connected to the museum in Sinsheim which has Concorde and one Tu-144 (one has to admit, they got some quite unique stuff). It is not complete, but it is "original".

http://www.museumspeyer.de/00004157D51D_D4E36DCD_0000505D_0001.html

[Edited 2005-10-14 01:48:14]
 
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RE: What On Earth Is This?

Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:00 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 27):

Before Mriya went into service in 1989, Buran was transported using the Myasischev VM-T Atlant.

Wow--I didn't know that. Here's what I found though:

http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/models/vault/All%20sorts%20of%20Soviet%20Space/Buran%20fly-in-lowres.JPG

It's amazing what you can find doing a simple image search on Google.  Smile

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