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AI's CCU-LHR Service. Viewing At BOM Airside

Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:48 am

One of my options for returning from CCU to LON is to fly AI non-stop (772). When was this service announced? It must have completely bypassed me.

Also, one of my options would involve a wait in BOM of either 3 hours 10 minutes or 6 hours 40 minutes. If I am flying AI and am connecting, would I get good views at BOM?

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RE: AI's CCU-LHR Service. Viewing At BOM Airside

Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:01 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Thread starter):
When was this service announced? It must have completely bypassed me.

It started in June or July, afair.. announced few months b4 - it rather seems that you were too drunk to follow the announcements  drunk 

Quoting Pe@rson (Thread starter):
wait in BOM of either 3 hours 10 minutes or 6 hours 40 minutes.

Every minute in BOM is one minute too much. BOM airport is a Dump, and nothing great to see.. however, the area around permits great spotting!
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RE: AI's CCU-LHR Service. Viewing At BOM Airside

Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:03 am

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 1):
the area around permits great spotting!

What, in the connection area (for AI pax)?
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:09 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 2):
What, in the connection area (for AI pax)?

No, outside of "The Dump".. see f.i.
India-Kenya 9W/AI Cum A.net Meet BOM +Pics/Vid/Long (by Mrniji Aug 8 2005 in Trip Reports)

Some pics of that area and the view along
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:11 am

And what about in AI's connection area?
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:15 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 4):
And what about in AI's connection area?

It is the absolute dump.. see the thread I referred to cum the pics.. in the night, you can virtually see nothing due to reflection, and the sight is impaired by dual-glass

Btw I still have to call the Indian High Commission in LON to warn them of your visa application and consider it with more scrutiny whether or not a visa can be granted for security reasons  Wink
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:18 am

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 5):
Btw I still have to call the Indian High Commission in LON to warn them of your visa application and consider it with more scrutiny whether or not a visa can be granted for security reasons

Well, as ex-PM of Cooooonguah, I am not surprised I am an increased security risk. :-P
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:02 am

Blimey, Nijiiiiii, it'd take me a year to read everything in that thread! Could you copy-and-paste the relevant bits re. viewing in AI connection area at BOM? Thanks.

Also, what is AI's IFE like?

What are its 744 and 772 machines like, too, in terms of comfort, etc?

I presume the food aboard AI would be good. Am I right?

Would I receive a meal on BOM-MAA and CCU-BOM (both on 310 machines)?
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:24 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 4):
And what about in AI's connection area?

If you're flying First or Business, the spotting is great from the Air India lounge. Otherwise, its a dump, and there is precious little access to windows, because you are separated from them by security gates. Take the nonstop to CCU and spare yourself BOM.

AI will ply you with food and alcohol on all sectors. The IFE is wretched (even on the ex-SQ 744s that should be having multiple programming - only about 6 channels of rubbish). Don't know how the 777s do on the IFE side.
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:32 am

At this rate it seems BA would be better, albeit less exciting.

I could go LHR-BOM-MAA and then CCU-LHR non-stop, both with AI. That'd spare me 3 hours or so or 6 or so hours at BOM. Hmm. It's a shame I wouldn't be able to see much at BOM.

Would it be possible, as an AI connecting passenger, to exit the connection area and go landside, to then proceed airside when necessary? If yes, are there any good places for watching while landside?
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:44 am

I forgot to ask: is it possible to watch the (limited) movements while both airside and landside at CCU?
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:34 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 9):
It's a shame I wouldn't be able to see much at BOM.

The city is great. The airport is nothing to talk about. Period

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 9):
Would it be possible, as an AI connecting passenger, to exit the connection area and go landside, to then proceed airside when necessary?

Yes, provided you have a valid multiple entry visa

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 10):
I forgot to ask: is it possible to watch the (limited) movements while both airside and landside at CCU?

CCU is OK

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 7):
Blimey, Nijiiiiii, it'd take me a year to read everything in that thread! Could you copy-and-paste the relevant bits re. viewing in AI connection area at BOM? Thanks.

You oughta read the essence out yourself and bump it up with a (positive) comment..  - nothing about booze (ahh!) please  

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 7):
Also, what is AI's IFE like?

See my TR  - the image with the board magazine

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 7):
What are its 744 and 772 machines like, too, in terms of comfort, etc?

Seat pitch in the own 744 is great.. seats are 80s style, which make them more comfortable than the seats of the FR new economy..  

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 7):
I presume the food aboard AI would be good. Am I right?

Dilicious.. the best I have had thus far

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 7):
Would I receive a meal on BOM-MAA and CCU-BOM (both on 310 machines)?

Now YOU talk about meals.. - how about you email this to M.O.L@ryanair.com  

Yes, there are meals on every sector, even on BOM-GOI (1/2 hr).. delicious Kheer for dessert, if you are lucky   - see my TR 

[Edited 2005-10-14 01:40:21]
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RE: AI's CCU-LHR Service. Viewing At BOM Airside

Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:57 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 9):
I could go LHR-BOM-MAA and then CCU-LHR non-stop, both with AI. That'd spare me 3 hours or so or 6 or so hours at BOM. Hmm. It's a shame I wouldn't be able to see much at BOM.

The lesser time you manage to spend at Indian airports - the better. And especially if the airport is BOM. Howver if you do get stranded at BOM, walk over into one of the airport lounges/restaurants - in India the lounges will offer you free food/drinks if you have a Citibank Gold/Platinum or a Diners card or a Standard Chartered Gold card (I'm assuming you're not flying Business) - and a much needed sanctuary from the mayhem outside. The last time in BOM I visited the lounge run by one of the hotel chains (I think it was the Oberoi?) - they had a good selection of juice/soft drinks and beer/spirits - and also nice snacks on offer. The best part was this was completely deserted - so very peaceful.
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RE: AI's CCU-LHR Service. Viewing At BOM Airside

Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:05 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Thread starter):
If I am flying AI and am connecting, would I get good views at BOM

Not from inside the Terminal.

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 7):
presume the food aboard AI would be good. Am I righ

Thats the best part of India.

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RE: AI's CCU-LHR Service. Viewing At BOM Airside

Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:28 pm

Hi again folks,

Thanks for your replies.

I have some more questions which I'd appreciate answering:

1) If I were transferring at BOM from the LHR flight to the MAA flight (on a 310), would I be bussed to the aircraft?

2) Is there any viewing area, or some such, at MAA?

3) If I were flying CCU-BOM (310), would I be bussed from the aircraft to the terminal?

4) If I had either 3 hours or 6 hours at BOM, would it be worth my while going landside? If yes, is there any decent place to watch, i.e. a cafe or whatever?

5) How will BA's meals on its UK-India-UK services be altered? Any info.?

Cheers again.  Smile
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RE: AI's CCU-LHR Service. Viewing At BOM Airside

Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:33 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 14):
1) If I were transferring at BOM from the LHR flight to the MAA flight (on a 310), would I be bussed to the aircraft?

No

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 14):
3) If I were flying CCU-BOM (310), would I be bussed from the aircraft to the terminal?

in CCU or BOM? In BOM: No.. and afair CCU has bridges, too (I forgot how it was when I arrived with TG December last year)

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 14):
4) If I had either 3 hours or 6 hours at BOM, would it be worth my while going landside? If yes, is there any decent place to watch, i.e. a cafe or whatever?

The airport is very central, but you could be caught in a rush-hour.. BOM is simply amazing, says my experience, lots to see, shopping, cafes, dhabas - and for you also booze shops and clubs.. you are not far from Bandra, Juhu Beach etc., where the life's movin'... When I arrived in BOM in January with my ex-madam, we had a wonderful day-stay there.. take the 6 hr stay and get out of the airport asap
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RE: AI's CCU-LHR Service. Viewing At BOM Airside

Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:46 pm

Thanks, Nijjjjjjjjiiiiiii.

Re. BOM: I would not be going into the city from the airport (I’d have 3-5 days in Mumbai itself during my 2 ½ month trip). I meant are there views landside in the terminal, i.e. from a café or whatever? And, if yes, would I be able to go landside from airside, watch for however long, and then proceed back airside to the connection area to catch my flight to LHR? Would this be worthwhile, if it is possible, considering I'd have either 3 or 6 hours at BOM?
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:58 pm

Everything considered, I think I'll choose BA, although I would have certainly have choosen AI if BOM was good for viewing. Never mind.  Smile
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RE: AI's CCU-LHR Service. Viewing At BOM Airside

Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:36 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 17):
Everything considered, I think I'll choose BA, although I would have certainly have choosen AI if BOM was good for viewing. Never mind.

BOM IS good for viewing! You just need to get out of the airport and take a riksha to the spot of my trip report (20 min).. it's amazing.. you stand on the top of the hill, see the runway, planes descending over your head, along with many locals who live in the attached slums.. see my pics in the TR  Wink
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RE: AI's CCU-LHR Service. Viewing At BOM Airside

Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:48 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 17):
Everything considered, I think I'll choose BA

Reasons please  Smile

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Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:52 pm

Quoting Nimish (Reply 19):
Reasons please

Because there won't be any viewing possibilities at BOM (and no, I won't be going around the airport per.)

BA arrives into MAA at a slightly better time (0110)

Better IFE and seat comfort

OK, I would ordinarily choose more unusual carriers - BA isn't exactly exciting - but if I can't see bugger all at BOM then there's no point going through there. Besides, AI seems to be a very inconsistent carrier.

Anyway, I haven't even booked BA yet.
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RE: AI's CCU-LHR Service. Viewing At BOM Airside

Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:41 pm

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 18):
BOM IS good for viewing! You just need to get out of the airport and take a riksha to the spot of my trip report (20 min).

Only in the Day  Smile
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Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:24 am

Btw don't buy a non-refundable ticket.. I haven't called the Indian High Commission yet in regard to denying your visa for security reasons  bigthumbsup   Wink
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RE: AI's CCU-LHR Service. Viewing At BOM Airside

Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:46 am

After a period of great uncertainty, I have booked my ticket - with AI.

I'll be flying LHR-BOM-MAA and CCU-BOM-LHR. I will get 2x 744 and 2x 310.

It's a shame I'll be arriving into MAA at 0325 and departing CCU at 0315, but if I had flown BA I'd have arrived into MAA at 0110 and departed CCU at 0445, so not much difference at all.

I've also never flown from T3 - but I've flown from the other 3 many times. And I've been meaning to fly from T3 for a good while.

Now, I am on AI122, LHR-BOM, which departs LHR at 1005. When will check-in open? I need a definite answer please.

Would my luggage go straight through to MAA?

I am on AI681 CCU-BOM, connecting with AI125 BOM-LHR. What time - for definite - will AI's check-in open at CCU?

Also, will my luggage go straight through to LHR?

Anyway, if I'm going to be travelling a lot in India (again), I might as well start from stratch and fly the national airline.

Will I need to reconfirm any of those flights?

Cheers!

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Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:38 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 23):
Would my luggage go straight through to MAA?

Yes.. AI flights are ALL from the International terminal.. customs at last station

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 23):
Also, will my luggage go straight through to LHR?

Yes

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 23):
Will I need to reconfirm any of those flights?

Yes, the return.. possible online on AI's webpage (the box there, click on PNR or so, then the small miniature link to reconfirm).. till then you need to find your passport, and don't loose it Big grin

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Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:04 pm

Enjoy the Trip.
How do you go from MAA to CCU.
At the Time of year.It'll be HOT.
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Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:05 pm

Have a nice stay in India!!

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Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:40 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 25):
How do you go from MAA to CCU.

2 1/2 months working my way around. Have been to India for a good while before.

Thanks Mr N.
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Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:38 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 27):
2 1/2 months working my way around

Bharat Darshan Huh  Smile
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Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:56 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 28):
Bharat Darshan Huh

Don't you swear at me.  Silly

What does that mean?
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Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:01 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 29):
What does that mean?

He means that you are a male drunk slut  bigthumbsup 
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Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:05 am

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 30):
He means that you are a male drunk slut

I do intend to be a male slut, what with now being single.  Silly But I don't really like alcohol any more, so I won't be a drunk male slut.  Smile
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RE: AI's CCU-LHR Service. Viewing At BOM Airside

Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:42 am

AFAIK , Alcoholic beverages are not served on AI domestic flights .

Arriving MAA at 0110 is not bad at all - much better than what you think is a more civlised time of between 2100-and 2400.

Why? Because you will have SQ, MH , LH , the evening IC flight from SIN and may be the evening AI flight as well from IC all landing up around this time. Wit the huge crowd in immigration, and the long wait for the baagae, you will be lucky to geat away without a 2 hour wait in the ground!

0110 arrival more re;laxed - every one in good humour that the crowds have gone .....

MAA airport is not a bad one at all..defintely 100 times better than BOM.....
 
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Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:20 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 29):
Don't you swear at me.

What does that mean?

Relax mate it means

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Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:33 pm

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 33):
Relax mate

I was just joking.  Smile

Quoting TKMCE (Reply 32):
Arriving MAA at 0110 is not bad at all

Shame my flight arrives at 0325.  Silly
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Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:42 pm

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 18):
it's amazing.. you stand on the top of the hill

hehe, that hill from where you once took pictures with us is no longer standing high !. 80% of it is demolished (sparing the dargah) and it has been fenced by AAI for their rapid taxitrack construction.
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Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:40 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 34):

Shame my flight arrives at 0325. Silly

Even better!
 
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Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:04 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 29):
What does that mean

Bharat Darshan....Actually meant Tour of India  Smile

Quoting AirIndiaOne (Reply 35):
Quoting Mrniji (Reply 18):
it's amazing.. you stand on the top of the hill

hehe, that hill from where you once took pictures with us is no longer standing high !. 80% of it is demolished (sparing the dargah) and it has been fenced by AAI for their rapid taxitrack construction.

I heard Even the Dargah has been demolished I heard.A reason qouted by AAI Employees for the series of Incidents at BOM.
The Jari-Mari hill is being demolished to Extend Rnwy 14-32 & construct the much needed Taxitrack from the 32 end.

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