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TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:01 am

Sorry, only in Spanish:

http://www.terra.com.mx/deportes/articulo/172446/

A Binational Olympic Committee is studying the feasibility of Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico and San Diego, California, U.S.A. submitting a joint bid for the 2016 Olympics. The mayors of the two cities have gotten together to discuss this possibility. The article I am linking also mentions the possibility of Tijuana and San Diego sharing a cross-border airport, although it is unclear if this would be operational during the games only. The article only mentions that TIJ is located just a few yards from the borderline.
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:38 am

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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:46 am

Quoting EddieDude (Thread starter):
The article I am linking also mentions the possibility of Tijuana and San Diego sharing a cross-border airport,

Uh... Nope. Never gonna happen.
 
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:03 am

Oh yeah, there's an idea: build an already-proved infeasible airport for a single event which may very well leave the facility troubled and useless afterward.

Nevertheless, a joint bid is an intriguing idea. I always thought it would be a possibility for the future, but I had been thinking 2020 more than 2016. Nevertheless, anything's possible...

On a side note: Which mayor(s) of San Diego have discussed an Olympic bid? I believe Toni Atkins still presides over the city.

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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:47 am

Quoting Trvlr (Reply 3):
Nevertheless, a joint bid is an intriguing idea. I always thought it would be a possibility for the future, but I had been thinking 2020 more than 2016. Nevertheless, anything's possible...

Why should the people of San Diego County who are raped financially, medically and educationally on a daily basis by people from Tijuana, who come across legally and illegally - taking up highway capacity they don't pay for, Hospital Emergency Rooms they don't pay for, Classrooms they don't pay for where their children go and refuse to learn English and Construction jobs that hard working Americans can't get - pursue a project that benefits the people of Tijuana over the San Diego County population by virtue of it's location?

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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:57 am

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 4):
Why should the people of San Diego County who are raped financially, medically and educationally on a daily basis by people from Tijuana, who come across legally and illegally - taking up highway capacity they don't pay for, Hospital Emergency Rooms they don't pay for, Classrooms they don't pay for and Construction jobs that hard working Americans can't get - pursue a project that benefits the people of Tijuana over the San Diego County population by virtue of it's location?

Yup, why I love this city...  banghead 

Anyway, only two places they can put the airport, in the ocean or at Miramar. The whole county is a city basically. There's El Centro, but way too far of a drive and Riverside is too far north. Nope, this city is stuck with this SAN for the time being.
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:27 am

Quoting JakeOrion (Reply 5):
Anyway, only two places they can put the airport, in the ocean or at Miramar.

Move the Marines to Lindbergh Field and move the Commercial flights to Miramar.
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Air

Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:14 am

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 4):

This is why we're talking 2020 rather than 2005. The border brings a lot of benefits to the economy despite its headaches, and the latter obviously need time to work out.

Still, no one's saying it isn't far-fetched.

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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:17 am

Quoting Trvlr (Reply 7):
Still, no one's saying it isn't far-fetched.

It is far-fetched and a transborder airport will never happen. Besides, the Mayor has nothing to do with the airport.

Happy???   Smile

Feel free to educate yourself on the issue:

http://www.san.org/flash/assp/pdf/3....guez%20International%20Airport.pdf

And all the other options:

http://www.san.org/flash/assp/map_load.swf

Miramar is it. It's not of issue of if, but when. Like a 2010-2015 BRAC without Duke Cunningham at the wheel.

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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:56 pm

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 8):
It is far-fetched and a transborder airport will never happen. Besides, the Mayor has nothing to do with the airport.

I was talking about the Olympics, not the airport  Wink.

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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:40 pm

Quoting Trvlr (Reply 9):
I was talking about the Olympics, not the airport .

That may be too!  Smile
 
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:19 pm

The Hank family better stop dreaming about doing things like a join bid for the olympic games. They sure want to do fancy stuff (after all, the Hanks liked to go to Africa for Safari Trips spending the money they got from politics), but there is no money to do it!! And Tijuana is one of the ugliest cities in Mexico along with all border cities, what major attraction do we have there besides the contaminated sea and beaches!!
 
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:23 pm

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 4):
Why should the people of San Diego County who are raped financially, medically and educationally on a daily basis by people from Tijuana

Well thankfully your opinion is in the minority(as evidenced by this little report http://www.icfdn.org/publications/bl...dborders/14CompAdvtgChallenges.htm ), but is a reality, as there are people on both sides of the border who do not understand that both communities have benefited from each other's prescence, but of course it's easy for some to blame the other party for your woes. I wonder if those pesky Tijuanenses are also responsible for clogging up the traffic in LA?

In any case, I don't think this idea about the airport is not gonna fly, there are just too many issues that are quite a doozie to work out. And the Olympic bid... no comment.  silly 
 
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:37 pm

Quoting SR117 (Reply 12):
Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 4):
Why should the people of San Diego County who are raped financially, medically and educationally on a daily basis by people from Tijuana

Well thankfully your opinion is in the minority(as evidenced by this little report http://www.icfdn.org/publications/bl...dborders/14CompAdvtgChallenges.htm ), but is a reality, as there are people on both sides of the border who do not understand that both communities have benefited from each other's prescence, but of course it's easy for some to blame the other party for your woes. I wonder if those pesky Tijuanenses are also responsible for clogging up the traffic in LA?

Do a poll of the people who pay the most taxes in SD County (or LA County for that matter) and you will find that Boeing7E7 is in the majority. I hate to break it to you amigo, but the major tax payers in southern California look at Mexico with suspicion.
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Air

Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:02 am

Well duh, they're probably stuffy republicans ! Of course I'm sure they'll turn a blind eye when they hire illegal aliens as help, directly OR indirectly.

Fact is while there are obviously some problems caused by the disparities, at the end of the day, those filthy mexicans you are so suspicious of, that clog your roads, eat your babies and cause the cow's milk to go sour pay a lot of sales tax, ask any salesman at Nordstrom about how much revenue they get from trophy wives (and of course not so trophy ones) on shopping sprees and what not. About 3 billion dollars a year are pumped into the SD economy because of those suspicious intruders (in 2001).

And at least I -tried- to keep this discussion on track, but now it's gone totally to the side.

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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:20 am

Quoting Rojo (Reply 11):
And Tijuana is one of the ugliest cities in Mexico along with all border cities, what major attraction do we have there besides the contaminated sea and beaches!!

You obviously don't work for the Mexican Department of Tourism.  Wink

Personally, I think a cross-border airport is crazy. American immigrations and Customs always seem bass-ackwards to me. Can you imagine if they actually had to coordinate with the Mexican authorities? Or do you run the airport like SIN where every flight is an international flight?
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:41 am

As a San Diego resident, I can tell you, this has already been voted down, even with a crazy pipe dream like the 2016 Olympics.

Leaving aside what SOME people in California think of Mexico and Mexicans in general - that's been done to death, and as recently as this posting - the U.S. and Mexico do not have the cross-border relationship that say France, Germany, and Switzerland have with Basel airport. There are just too many variables and unexpected problems that cannot be pre-considered.

Here's the facts: San Diegans, Orange County-ites, and various others will continue to clog L.A. freeways and use LAX for major long-distance flights. San Diego Airport Authority officials will continue to spend $$$$$$ for many years to study alternatives to SAN, never finding one, but having great lunches at taxpayer expense while doing so. Nothing will EVER change unless somehow there is a complete collapse of the structure.

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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:38 am

Quoting EddieDude (Thread starter):
The article only mentions that TIJ is located just a few yards from the borderline.

If TIJ is just yards from the US-Mexico border, why not extend it to the US side and have the San Diego Authorities or some US private group build a US airport terminal terminal there? The Mexicans would have their own airport terminal on their side and San Diego its own terminal on the US side.
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:23 am

Quoting STT757 (Reply 6):
Move the Marines to Lindbergh Field and move the Commercial flights to Miramar.

Thank you! Some one else agrees with me... IMHO, this is the best and really the only realistic solution.

The only other thing I would suggest is instead of moving the Marines to SAN (which is right next to their recruiting facility and depot), they could stay exclusively at Camp Pendleton or even jointly use Miramar with commercial traffic... But commercial flights must be moved to Miramar, especially if the Olympics ever were held in San Diego...
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:56 am

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 17):
If TIJ is just yards from the US-Mexico border, why not extend it to the US side and have the San Diego Authorities or some US private group build a US airport terminal terminal there? The Mexicans would have their own airport terminal on their side and San Diego its own terminal on the US side.

Your opinion sounds so logical for anybody from Europe and also for you from Panama. But nearly every USA citizen oppose these plans and consider them as unrealistic. I wonder if there are real hurdles or if that is only beacuse people have a lack of imagination.
 
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:56 pm

While on the subject of the Olympics......a joint bid is very unlikely. Finland and Norway tried to do it with the Helsinki bid for 2006. With rumors of Chicago, NYC, Washington DC, Philadelphia, Houston, San Francisco, and Los Angeles bidding for 2016 San Diego will have some serious competition if they want to host the Olympics.

I tend to agree with everyone else that the joint airport between Tijuana and San Diego is really far fetched. Miramar is the best site.
 
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:54 pm

Quoting SR117 (Reply 12):
Well thankfully your opinion is in the minority(as evidenced by this little report http://www.icfdn.org/publications/bl...dborders/14CompAdvtgChallenges.htm ), but is a reality, as there are people on both sides of the border who do not understand that both communities have benefited from each other's prescence, but of course it's easy for some to blame the other party for your woes. I wonder if those pesky Tijuanenses are also responsible for clogging up the traffic in LA?

Having grown up in San Diego and spent the majority of my adult life there, I'm pretty damn sure I know what I'm talking about. I only left two years ago. One only has to ask a Teacher, Commuter or Doctor in San Diego about the rest. And people wonder why we left. Please...

Quoting San747 (Reply 18):
Thank you! Some one else agrees with me... IMHO, this is the best and really the only realistic solution.

Make that three....
 
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:55 am

Dreams! The only possible solution for SAN is Miramar UNLESS, citizens in SAN accept that the best thing to do is to invest at TIJ airport and next to it on the US border built a new terminal with runways! Making easy to connect to all US/Europe for mexicans and on the other side to all Mexico!!

I'm sure TIJ people is ready for that but I'm sure it wouldn't be well accepted by SAN. They should learn a little bit of European culture with shared borders and more when necessary!

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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:38 am

First of all, the topic has been in discussion since I was a little boy, and I can honestly say that its never going to happen because there's just way too many differences between both parties.

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 4):
Why should the people of San Diego County who are raped financially, medically and educationally on a daily basis by people from Tijuana, who come across legally and illegally - taking up highway capacity they don't pay for, Hospital Emergency Rooms they don't pay for, Classrooms they don't pay for where their children go and refuse to learn English and Construction jobs that hard working Americans can't get - pursue a project that benefits the people of Tijuana over the San Diego County population by virtue of it's location?


I can only agree with you on the Medical benefits part. I cannot agree with you on the "they don't pay for their children go and refuse to learn English" because you are absolutely lying your butt off. This is absolutely false! If you are referring to bilingual education, let me remind you that this is not practiced anymore since the mid-90s, so it is not a valid argument to point to in this day in age. I also have friends who are Doctors, Nurses, and Teachers--first generation sons/daughters of Mexican Immigrants--what will they tell me?

It is not the children's fault that the California education system is in a poor state due to politics, and it is not their fault that oftentimes their parents are ignorant. If you were to deny education to all of these kids because your simple justification is that the numbers don’t add up, then this wouldn’t be the world’s superpower, would it? This would be Zimbabwe.

Don’t sound like a hypocrite about the “hard working American can’t get construction jobs” story. We are not in the times of the great-depression and today’s average American would never EVER consider or be able to accomplish a hard labor intensive job like many of these people accept and for what they get paid for.

I am a son of these people and I can tell you that if my people weren’t worthy of being in this land then we also wouldn’t be worthy of spilling so much of our blood in the deserts of Ali Baba fighting a very questionable cause for OUR flag, the RED, WHITE, and BLUE; because our ignorant leader (or so it might seem) that is the representative of your ideologies has blatantly made up this story to protect this land. Was this not worth all the investment, time, and effort of every single goddammed penny taken from your taxes and invested in us really worth it?

If you really want to use the word Rape and taxes in one sentence, turn your attention to the war in Iraq and analyze who’s really using your taxes to rape who…

On the other, because I am an American first and foremost with the ability to see right from wrong, I do agree with that something can be done about the situation because we cannot be the solution to all Mexico’s problems. I don’t object to building a wall on the border, but I’m not going to be a hypocrite and use the excuse that we’re doing it on grounds of national security reasons for Mexicans are not terrorist. Mexicans would never even think of making a bomb and detonating it to kill Americans. They didn't do it when you took over their land; they're not going to do it now.

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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:08 am

[quote=Trvlr,reply=3]Nevertheless, a joint bid is an intriguing idea. I always thought it would be a possibility for the future, but I had been thinking 2020 more than 2016. Nevertheless, anything's possible...

A joint bid would be really interesting. However, San Diego isnt even a front runner for hosting 2016 (Chicago, Toronto, & Jo'burg or Capetown are). I highly doubt this sort of joint bid is possible. The US and Mexico would have to change bordre procedures to make things run more smoothly, and the US will be pretty reluctant to go lenient during the Olympics.


A joint airport between two international cities... what a foolish idea.
 
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:06 am

.... Perhaps there are not two countries in this world, sharing a common border, that are so profoundly different from each other like Mexico and the U.S. !

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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:02 pm

Joint Airport in TIJ for SD community would be a nice thing. But it sounds like something that would never happen. As for the Olympic bid for San Diego, no offense but SAN could never beat SF Bay or LA on an Olympic bid. SF Bay came in 2nd behind NYC at this last bid for Olympic hopefuls. San Diego and it's metro area has to grow more before it can become more of a cosmopolitan area. In comparison SF Bay has 3 major airports in one metro area with each having +10 million pax a year (SJC-12million pax, OAK 14million, and SFO 43million). San Diego is still a small town compared to the bay area. A TIJ/SAN Airport seems like the most likely idea for a new Int'l Airport, or the miramar site. A floating airport in the sea for SAN will never happen, just look at the state and how they don't even want to fund the eastern span of the bay bridge in San Francisco Bay. I being part of Northern CA will veto any state funding for new water SAN Airport. San Diego doesn't have the market for major airport expansion. Only San Francisco or Los Angeles has the market to expand. People in San Diego should just wait until the CA High Speed Rail is done, then you can travel anywhere in the world.
 
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:56 pm

Quoting Oakjam (Reply 26):
As for the Olympic bid for San Diego, no offense but SAN could never beat SF Bay or LA on an Olympic bid. SF Bay came in 2nd behind NYC at this last bid for Olympic hopefuls. San Diego and it's metro area has to grow more before it can become more of a cosmopolitan area.

Size has never been a consideration in the granting of the Olympic Games -- Ever heard of the games in Helsinki and Sydney ??? San Diego / TJ has a combined population of 5 million. I will say that San Diego / TJ could never do a joint bid because according to the IOC only one city can officially bid for the Olympics as DC and Baltimore found out.

Quoting Oakjam (Reply 26):
A floating airport in the sea for SAN will never happen, just look at the state and how they don't even want to fund the eastern span of the bay bridge in San Francisco Bay. I being part of Northern CA will veto any state funding for new water SAN Airport. San Diego doesn't have the market for major airport expansion. Only San Francisco or Los Angeles has the market to expand.

The overwater site has already been eliminated by the San Diego County Reg Airport Authority, so you have nothing to worry about. And thankfully we certainly don't have to worry about your "vote" as the airport won't be funded by state revenues, but rather the stellar bond rating of the Airport Authority. The airport will be able to issue bonds to fund any expansion. And I hate to say it to you that Los Angeles may have the market to expand, but what are they going to do about their rwy capacity? According to SCAG LAX which reach capacity after 2010. San Diego will reach capacity at about 2020, at least we are trying to do something about it.

Quoting Oakjam (Reply 26):
People in San Diego should just wait until the CA High Speed Rail is done, then you can travel anywhere in the world.

Umm... if LAX is going to reach capacity in 2010, why the hell would I want to wait until 2050 to take a High speed rail train to a supercrowded airport. I being a resident of San Diego will not vote for any high speed rail funding proposed by the state. It will cost billions of dollars and be litigated to death by people who happen to have property in the right of way. It is a dream that will never be realized.
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:56 am

The Olympic bid by both joint cities of course will not happen. If LAX is out of capacity see Palmdale open up as another LA regional airport (With lots of room to grow). I can also see a larger expansion of ONT as a secondary feeder airport to LAX. ONT has a bit more room within it's surroundings to grow. Also my point to in putting a response is that I don't think San Diego is a world class city it claims to be. In some ads they put in SF Bay they say just as pretty as SF but with less traffic, I strongly disagree. Also the 5+ plus people in the San Diego/Tijuana area; 3+ million or more comes from Tijuana. Also please fix up that dump airport that is Lindbergh Field, the baggage claim and seating areas in the terminals are poor. I can't believe at the amount of baggage carrousels for the flights that come in. Also that runway needs to be longer as you can feel the braking that the jets do when you land on anything larger than a 737.
 
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:03 am

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 4):
Why should the people of San Diego County who are raped financially, medically and educationally on a daily basis by people from Tijuana, who come across legally and illegally - taking up highway capacity they don't pay for, Hospital Emergency Rooms they don't pay for, Classrooms they don't pay for where their children go and refuse to learn English and Construction jobs that hard working Americans can't get - pursue a project that benefits the people of Tijuana over the San Diego County population by virtue of it's location?

And I am sure you are saying that with a mouthful of strawberries washed down with a nice glass of orange juice you racist fool. You know, I hope you neighbors in Madison find out just what you are like. They will run you out of town.
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:49 am

Quoting Oakjam (Reply 28):
I can also see a larger expansion of ONT as a secondary feeder airport to LAX. ONT has a bit more room within it's surroundings to grow

ONT's new terminal complex was built with a huge space between the 2 terminals that will allow LAWA to easily expand once ONT reaches capacity. The 2 long runways provide all the capacity it will ever need

Quoting Oakjam (Reply 28):
If LAX is out of capacity see Palmdale open up as another LA regional airport (With lots of room to grow).

PMD doesn't have room to grow unless the Air Force decides to leave, which doesn't look likely. Additionally, time and time again PMD has proved to be a white elephant for LAWA, not even being able to hold commuter flights on turboprops.
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:50 am

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 4):
Why should the people of San Diego County who are raped financially, medically and educationally on a daily basis by people from Tijuana, who come across legally and illegally - taking up highway capacity they don't pay for, Hospital Emergency Rooms they don't pay for, Classrooms they don't pay for where their children go and refuse to learn English and Construction jobs that hard working Americans can't get - pursue a project that benefits the people of Tijuana over the San Diego County population by virtue of it's location?

Ah yes, the Ugly American personofied. The POOR AMERICANS! Having to put up with those arrogant, well-off Mexicans.

Listening to Boeing7E7, that's what you think was the case. He's what is in power in the U.S. right now, so he as that arrogance of power.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 12):
Well thankfully your opinion is in the minority

Well, someone like him can pile on someone for being a "minority", but he can't stand when he himself is labled as such. Doesn't seem to teach him any humility though, does it?

Quoting PHXinterrupted (Reply 13):
but the major tax payers in southern California look at Mexico with suspicion.

Conversely, the Mexicans I'm sure see the major tax payers as two-faced hypocrites, who, many of them I'm sure, hire illegals to do their gardening and the like.

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 16):
Discussion closed.

Uh, not quite.  Smile

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 21):
I only left two years ago

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A great day in the history of San Diego, I'm sure.

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 23):
I cannot agree with you on the "they don't pay for their children go and refuse to learn English" because you are absolutely lying your butt off.

Don't confuse him with the truth. It's too much for him to handle.

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 23):

Excellent post. Thanks for putting the Ugly American in his place.
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:57 am

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 4):
Why should the people of San Diego County who are raped financially, medically and educationally on a daily basis by people from Tijuana, who come across legally and illegally - taking up highway capacity they don't pay for, Hospital Emergency Rooms they don't pay for, Classrooms they don't pay for where their children go and refuse to learn English and Construction jobs that hard working Americans can't get - pursue a project that benefits the people of Tijuana over the San Diego County population by virtue of it's location?

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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:56 pm

Quoting Oakjam (Reply 26):
As for the Olympic bid for San Diego, no offense but SAN could never beat SF Bay or LA on an Olympic bid. SF Bay came in 2nd behind NYC at this last bid for Olympic hopefuls.

I wouldn't be dissing San Diego and praising SF's bid quite yet. When looking at the 2012 bid's from a techincal point of view, Houston, LA, and NYC had the best bids among the US candidates as they were compact and used existing facilities. SF's bid got far enough into the race because it's San Francisco. Look at the bid and how spread out it was across the Bay Area...the bid leader was a graduate of Stanford and put most of the large events in Palo Alto. Basically it was a South Bay Area bid that used San Francisco's name. If San Francisco wants to host an Olympics they should focus their bid on SF, Oakland, and Berkely with minor events in San Jose and Palo Alto, otherwise expect NYC or Chicago to be the US bid city for 2016.

Granted though, San Diego would have to improve it's infastructure and definately upgrade it's airport before they were to host an Olympics.
 
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:38 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 29):
And I am sure you are saying that with a mouthful of strawberries washed down with a nice glass of orange juice you racist fool. You know, I hope you neighbors in Madison find out just what you are like. They will run you out of town.



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 31):
Ah yes, the Ugly American personofied. The POOR AMERICANS! Having to put up with those arrogant, well-off Mexicans.

Listening to Boeing7E7, that's what you think was the case. He's what is in power in the U.S. right now, so he as that arrogance of power.



Quoting Nordair (Reply 32):
Boeing7E7, be Christlike!

You must have been bored this post being over a week old.

All three of you have a serious lack of understanding of the problem. If pointing out the obvious problem in California makes one a racist, then so be it. If you had kids in school there, you would know. If you used the Freeways, you would know. If you ever walked into an Emergency Room and it took you 3-4 hours you would know.

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 23):
I cannot agree with you on the "they don't pay for their children go and refuse to learn English" because you are absolutely lying your butt off.

If you think this to be untrue, you are naive.
 
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:32 pm

Besides all that we just had the Olymipcs in Los Angeles in 1984, so it would be nice to choose another venue other than So Cal.
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:28 pm

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 34):
All three of you have a serious lack of understanding of the problem. If pointing out the obvious problem in California makes one a racist, then so be it. If you had kids in school there, you would know. If you used the Freeways, you would know. If you ever walked into an Emergency Room and it took you 3-4 hours you would know.

I was born and raised in California, educated in its public schools from elementary school all the way through my B.A., have used the freeways that are mostly clogged by white people in Yukons, its public transportation that is limited by those same people with their NIMBY hats on and have been in emergency rooms and have never known anyone to wait that long if they needed treatment. Your posts are purely examples of blatant xenophobia and complete lack of knowledge of the economic motor that powers the region.

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 35):
Besides all that we just had the Olymipcs in Los Angeles in 1984, so it would be nice to choose another venue other than So Cal.

Hey, 1984 was 21 years ago, and we are not talking till 2016, which is 11 years from now, so if Los Angeles or San Diego (come on IOC) gets the games, it will have been 32 years
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:36 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 36):
Your posts are purely examples of blatant xenophobia and complete lack of knowledge of the economic motor that powers the region.

Born and raised in San Diego and the issue was quite apparent.
 
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:20 am

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 34):
All three of you have a serious lack of understanding of the problem.

Yes, we know, the problem, as you see it, is Mexicans daring to come to the U.S. to upset your nice, happy, well-off middle-class existence. How dare they do that do you.

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 34):
If pointing out the obvious problem in California makes one a racist, then so be it.

At least you have the gonads to admit you are what you are. And judging from you in the past, you are. At least you're a man about it.

But for the life of me why someone who lives a live more comfortable than most people ever have, is angry that others want a share in it. It is baffling. Or, is it only reserved for "certain types", my friend?

Quoting N1120A (Reply 36):
Your posts are purely examples of blatant xenophobia and complete lack of knowledge of the economic motor that powers the region.

You got it. Dude is, as I said, the Ugly American personofied.
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:23 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 38):
Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 34):
All three of you have a serious lack of understanding of the problem.

Yes, we know, the problem, as you see it, is Mexicans daring to come to the U.S. to upset your nice, happy, well-off middle-class existence. How dare they do that do you.

Actually, how dare those people try and live the same existence and provide that for their families  sarcastic 

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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:23 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 36):
Hey, 1984 was 21 years ago, and we are not talking till 2016, which is 11 years from now, so if Los Angeles or San Diego (come on IOC) gets the games, it will have been 32 years

True. But Atlanta had it just in 1996.
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:31 am

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 40):
True. But Atlanta had it just in 1996.

And Salt Lake City in 2002, and we know what happened there hurt future US causes for a while. Still, California is a big market that can absorb an Olympics very well.
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RE: TIJ/SAN Joint '16 Olympic Bid: Talk Of New Airport

Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:11 am

Quoting EddieDude (Thread starter):
Sorry, only in Spanish:

http://www.terra.com.mx/deportes/articulo/172446/

A Binational Olympic Committee is studying the feasibility of Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico and San Diego, California, U.S.A. submitting a joint bid for the 2016 Olympics. The mayors of the two cities have gotten together to discuss this possibility. The article I am linking also mentions the possibility of Tijuana and San Diego sharing a cross-border airport, although it is unclear if this would be operational during the games only. The article only mentions that TIJ is located just a few yards from the borderline.

= Hahaha ... as I have learned to say ... isn't this the perfect time to say "NO MAMES GUEY"  Smile?

Quoting N1120A (Reply 39):
Actually, how dare those people try and live the same existence and provide that for their families

I will never understand how some people act like others are less than human

= Hahaha ... excellently said!

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