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Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:31 am

What airlines use callsigns which bear no relation to airlines name? Are there any explantations as to why they use that callsign?

One I can think of is British Airways using the "Speedbird" callsign. As is well known this dates back to the BOAC days. And BOAC used it becuase "speedbird" was the name given to their logo.

What others are there?
 
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:36 am

CityJet (Air France Irish Partner) uses CityIreland - Although Cityjet was available at the time.
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:37 am

Air Florida used to be "Palm" IIRC - while America West was ( maybe still is until the HP designator disappears completely ) "Cactus" - neither related to their operating names - but both related to their geographical bases I guess .
 
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:42 am

SkyEurope Hungary: Matra (name of a Hungarian mountain)
SkyEurope Slovakia: Relax

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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:42 am

I've heard a number of 'unusual' ones... Netjets Europe recently started using 'Fraction' (which makes sense, fractional ownership) instead of 'Skyshare' (was being confused with Ryanair in some places). Others include 'Batman' (G5 Executive Switzerland), 'Snoopy' (Air Traffic GmbH Germany), 'Twinstar' (Daimler Chrysler Aviation). None of these callsigns really appear to link to the name of the aircraft operators!
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kiwiandrew

RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:49 am

Can't believe I forgot these 3 in my previous reply


Two additional call signs that related to logos rather than airline names

Aer Lingus - Shamrock
South African Airways - Springbok


and of course the all time classic

Pan Am - Clipper


ooops - edited to add another one
CP - Empress ( from their days as a shipping company when their ships were all "Empress of _________ " )

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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:52 am

I don't understand why Ryanair uses Ryanair?    

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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:01 am

From the UK

Airtours - Kestrel
Air 2000/First Choice - Jetset

Others

Trans State (American Connection) - Waterski
Air One (Italy) - Heron
UNI Airways Corporation (Taiwan) - Glory
Potomac Air, Inc. (USA) - District
Braathens ASA (Norway) - Scanor
Chicago Express Airlines, Inc. (USA) - Windy City (Geographic)
MyTravel Airways A/S (Denmark) - Viking

and my personal favourite:

Lufttaxi Fluggesellschaft mbH (Germany) - Garfield
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:07 am

waterski.
think it's a UAX carrier

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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:07 am

oooh this is fun - they keep coming back to me - haven't quite lost all my marbles yet  old 

Valujet - "critter"
 
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:21 am

Quoting WAH64D (Reply 7):
Airtours - Kestrel

now known as My Travel.

EI - Shamrock (not linked to the name but certainly the heritage of the country)
Thomas Cook - TopJet
Excel - Expo

What is Jet2 @ MAN, I can never quite decipher it on the radio, it sounds like 'Chinex' or something like that.

The best however is linked to its name, and that is Baby for bmiBaby, 'cleared to land baby'
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:27 am

This isnt an odd callsign, but it's my fav: Atlas Air - Giant
 
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:15 am

Quoting WAH64D (Reply 7):
Potomac Air, Inc. (USA) - District

Not too odd, given that the Potomac River runs through Washington, DC, where DC stands for District of Columbia.

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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:18 am

Quoting Boysteve (Reply 10):
What is Jet2 @ MAN, I can never quite decipher it on the radio, it sounds like 'Chinex' or something like that.

Probably the same as for Channel Express (I think jet2 is probably a trading name of Channel Express) which is 'Channex'.
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:22 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 6):
I don't understand why Ryanair uses Ryanair?

I thought Ryanair used-Ryan

Quoting Boysteve (Reply 10):
'cleared to land baby'

 up   up   up  thats funny  up   up   up 

I think Nothwest Airlink uses-Flagship
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:33 am

Mesa uses Air Shuttle


USA3000 uses Getaway
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:38 am

One callsign that always baffeled me was from Canada300, they used "Elite".
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:07 am

Former UAX carrier Atlantic Coast = Blue Ridge but now Independence. Shuttle America for Delta Connection = Shuttlecraft. AirTran Airways = Citrus. Atlantic Southeast Airlines (ASA) now owned by SkyWest = Candler. Pinnacle (NW Airlink) = Flagship.
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:11 am

Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 14):
I think Nothwest Airlink uses-Flagship



Quoting Polar1 (Reply 17):
Pinnacle (NW Airlink) = Flagship

i guess i was right
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:28 am

Was there ever an airline that used "Silverbird" as their callsign? For years I thought American did, but maybe I was told that by a drunk.... Critter was my all-time favorite! And the "Critter" was cute too. Too bad he's not around anymore.
 
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:37 am

Quoting Boysteve (Reply 10):
EI - Shamrock (not linked to the name but certainly the heritage of the country)

It also has a whole lot to do with the livery.
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:40 am

How could you guys forget

China Airlines : Dynasty

?!
 
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:48 am

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 5):
CP - Empress ( from their days as a shipping company when their ships were all "Empress of _________ " )

Aha! True, & if you check the airplanes, they too had Empress names on them:

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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:50 am

"ooops - edited to add another one
CP - Empress ( from their days as a shipping company when their ships were all "Empress of _________ " )"

The callsign "Empress" has now been taken by Canadian North. There was a lot of debate about this in aviation circles at the time as some felt that the name was still property of Air Canada which CP is now a part of.

"One callsign that always baffeled me was from Canada300, they used "Elite"."

Not sure how they initially got this callsign, but having known several people who worked for that airline when it was around, I can certainly say that it fit the airline well. Canada3000 was a superbly run airline, with excellent employees. However, they only hired people who fit a very particular image/personality - the "elite," so to speak!
 
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:53 am

I forgot to add my personal favorite - "Dynasty." It's the callsign of China Airlines (the one from Taiwan as opposed to mainland China's "Air China").
 
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:58 am

Icelandair = Ice Air
BWIA = West Indian


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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:15 am

You know you work for an airline with an obscure callsign when you call center on the phone, identify yourself as being from "*callsign* dispatch" and getting "Who??"
Ask why..
 
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:17 am

New York Air: Apple
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:22 am

"Waterski" is Trans States

Most of the controllers around here refer to Midwest Airlines as "MidEx".
 
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:35 am

Kalitta Air's callsign is Connie, unrelated until you realise it's the first name of the airline's owner.

Miami Air's callsign is Biscayne (local geography)

Aeroflot's is Sierra Uniform (think about it)

VLM (Wings of Flanders) callsign is Rubens (art history)

Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 14):
I thought Ryanair used-Ryan

Thats Ryan Air (US based). Ryanair is an Irish airline.
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:00 pm

More....

AirTran = Citrus
China Airlines Cargo = Cargo King
Atlantic Coast (ACA)= Blue Ridge
Atlantic Southeast (ASA) = Candler
Continental Express = Jetlink
Johnson Controls shuttle= Visor
USAF AMC (Air Mobility Command) = Reach
Bombardier Business Jet Solutions = Flexjet
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:10 pm

Astraeus - FLYSTAR

Some older ones:

Airworld! - ENVOY
Canada 3000 - ELITE
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IflyI
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:43 pm

More.....
Air Paridise - Radisair
Blue Line - Blue Berry
dBa - Speedway
Easy Jet (CH) - Top Swiss (Just like that one!)
Helvetic - Arabella
Kulula - Commercial
Neos - Moon Flower
Nordic Regional - North Flyer
Yes - Young Sky
British Airways Cargo - Jet Lift

---Oldies----
National Airlines - Red Rock
Zip - Zipper  Smile


Just some I can think of.....I will dig some more up when I get to work.

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RE: Odd Callsigns

Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:01 am

Flybe uses Jersey, which doesn't bear any resemblance, until you delve a bit deeper and realise that before they were Flybe or British European, they were Jersey European Airways.
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:08 am

Quoting EGTESkyGod (Reply 33):
Flybe uses Jersey, which doesn't bear any resemblance, until you delve a bit deeper and realise that before they were Flybe or British European, they were Jersey European Airways.

I also understand that before that they were SpaceGrand. Wonder what call-sign they used then?

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RE: Odd Callsigns

Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:34 am

Quoting FI642 (Reply 25):
Icelandair = Ice Air
BWIA = West Indian

Hardly suprising, BWIA is the abbreviated form of British West Indies Airways.

Quoting Boysteve (Reply 10):
What is Jet2 @ MAN, I can never quite decipher it on the radio, it sounds like 'Chinex' or something like that.

Its "Channex", Jet2 is owned by Channel Express.
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:58 am

Quoting TrappedInMKG (Reply 28):
Most of the controllers around here refer to Midwest Airlines as "MidEx".

That is their assigned call sign!
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:29 am

 
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:32 am

Quoting Boysteve (Reply 10):
The best however is linked to its name, and that is Baby for bmiBaby, 'cleared to land baby'
Always a laugh

If the ATC was a female, it could sound a kind of "invitation"  innocent 
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:18 am

Quoting Iberiadc852 (Reply 38):
If the ATC was a female, it could sound a kind of "invitation"

Also a favourite hand off line when crossing into the French Brest control FIR is "roger, baby to brest, good day"
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:27 am

Quoting WAH64D (Reply 7):
Braathens ASA (Norway) - Scanor

This is probably because Braathens has recently merged with SAS ("Scandinavian") and is responsible for all Norwegian SAS flights.

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RE: Odd Callsigns

Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:44 am

Quoting TrappedInMKG (Reply 28):
Most of the controllers around here refer to Midwest Airlines as "MidEx".

I would hope so! MidEx is their callsign!

As for Waterski, when TSA started they used to fly junkets for lots of waterskiers on vacation, thus the callsign.
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:46 am

I remember some:

Polar Air Cargo: Polar Tigers
TMA Cargo: Tango Lima
CargOman: Hotel Charlie
Affretair: Afro
Air Excel Tanzania: Tinga-Tinga
African Safari: Zebra


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RE: Odd Callsigns

Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:28 am

Quoting IflyI (Reply 32):
Kulula - Commercial

Comair is their callsign since they're owned by Comair LTD SA.

One weird one I've never figured out :
Inter Air South Africa - "E-Line"  Confused

And one last fun one that is sort of related :
1Time LCC - "Next Time"

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RE: Odd Callsigns

Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:55 am

Quoting FaroeFlyer (Reply 40):
This is probably because Braathens has recently merged with SAS ("Scandinavian") and is responsible for all Norwegian SAS flights.

SCAndinavian NORway

That one had me wondering. They say you learn something new every day, thats my piece of knowledge for today then.

A couple more:

Zambian Airways - Mines
Aero Lanka (Sri Lanka) - Serendib
East Afrian Airlines Limited (Uganda) - Crane
TUI Airlines Belgium - Beauty
Airnorth Regional (Australia) - Top end
Swedjet Airways AB (Sweden) - Blackbird
Eastwind Airlines, Inc. (USA) - Stinger
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:22 am

Arrow Cargo -- Big A

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RE: Odd Callsigns

Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:46 am

Chautauqua: Chautauqua
Shuttle America: ShuttleCraft
Republic: Brickyard
Skyway: Skywayx
Midwest: MidEx
TransStates: Waterski
Allegheny: Allegehny
Air Wisconsin: Wisconsin
National (Last Incarnation): Red Rock
Mesa: Air Shuttle
Independence: Independence
Mesaba: Mesaba
Pinnacle: Flagship
American Eagle: Eagle Flight
USA3000: Getaway
Southwest: Southwest
SkyWest: Skywest
PSA: Bluestreak

Sean from MCO and STL

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RE: Odd Callsigns

Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:49 pm

And ExpressJet is Jetlink, whats everyone's point...    


ACA use to be Blueridge.

[Edited 2005-10-18 06:50:40]

[Edited 2005-10-18 06:51:10]
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:50 pm

and ExpressJet is one word, whats yours
 
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RE: Odd Callsigns

Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:30 am

Quoting IflyI (Reply 32):
Nordic Regional - North Flyer

No, Nordic Regional use Northrider.


Britannia Nordic = Bluescan (this airline was Blue Scandinavia some years ago)
Novair = Navigator
Viking Airlines = Swedjet
Avitrans Nordic = Extrans
Skyways = Sky Express
City Airline = Swedestar
FlyMe = Flybird
Direktflyg = Highswede
Malmö Aviation = Scanwing

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