airworlda320
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PH-BUF

Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:42 am

Was PH-BUF the B747-200 involved in the Tenerife disaster a stretched upper deck conversion?
Pull off kid, it ill go.
 
patroni
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RE: PH-BUF

Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:43 am

No, these were not done yet in 1977.
 
airworlda320
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RE: PH-BUF

Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:47 am

thanks Patroni, that settles a bet between me and my best buddy!!!!
Pull off kid, it ill go.
 
Orion737
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RE: PH-BUF

Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:58 am

Just to widen the post, what was the name of the tour operator rep who left PH-BUF at Tenerife rather than flying on to LPA and consequently was the only woman who flew to TFN on PH-BUF to escape death. is she still alive?

I read recently that many of the passengers on PH-BUF were families many with young children. That makes that appalling tradgedy even more sad.
 
MrMcCoy
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RE: PH-BUF

Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:01 am

Did you happen to catch the "Seconds from Disaster" show on the Tenerife disaster? I've seen many programs on this accident, but that was the best and most informative yet.

Remember, the only eyewitnesses to the accident were the pilots, as the runway was completely obscured by fog.
It only takes five years to go from rumor to standard operating procedure.
 
Orion737
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RE: PH-BUF

Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:08 am

I havent seen that programme. I have read quite extensivley on the disaster although considering the scale and enormity of the tradgedy there is not that much information out there.
 
MrMcCoy
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RE: PH-BUF

Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:11 am

SFD (Seconds from Disaster) covered the entire accident using CGI, and the results of what happened were spectaular on a tragic scale. The entire time I recall thinking about how many different opportunities both aircraft had to avoid a collision before time ran out and the KLM Capt. spooled up power.
It only takes five years to go from rumor to standard operating procedure.
 
airbusA346
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RE: PH-BUF

Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:13 am

Quoting MrMcCoy (Reply 4):
"Seconds from Disaster" show

It was on tonight in the UK,

National Geo = 5:00pmGMT
National Geo +1 = 6:00pmGMT

It might be on later, but I don't know.

Tom.
Tom Walker '086' First Officer of a A318/A319 for Air Lambert - Hours Flown: 17 hour 05 minutes (last updated 24/12/05).
 
desertjets
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RE: PH-BUF

Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:13 am

Furthermore the KLM 747-200s that got the SUD treatment were the GE powered birds. PH-BUF was PW powered.
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EMBQA
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RE: PH-BUF

Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:18 am

Quoting AirworldA320 (Thread starter):
Was PH-BUF the B747-200 involved in the Tenerife disaster a stretched upper deck conversion?

As said above, NO...! PH-BUF was in fact one of the very early 747's ever built. If I read it right l/n 150.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
 
dc863
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RE: PH-BUF

Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:17 am

BUF was also painted with a royal blue top. Some re-enactments show it in it's delivery white top scheme.
 
vunz
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RE: PH-BUF

Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:26 pm

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 3):
I read recently that many of the passengers on PH-BUF were families many with young children. That makes that appalling tradgedy even more sad.

There's a extensive documentation on Project Tenerife.tk including the KLM passenger list (in Dutch)