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B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:35 am

JetBlue will use their new Embraer E190s to fly on all BOS-FL routes this winter. Here's the breakdown:

BOS-FLL
4x A, 1x E (+100 seats over last year)

BOS-RSW
3x A, 1x E (+100 seats over last year)

BOS-MCO
4x A, 2x E (+44 seats over last year)

BOS-TPA
2x A, 1x E (-56 seats over last year)

BOS-PBI
3x E (new route); I'd expect to see A320s on this route sometime this winter.

Just thought it was interesting to see that the E190s will be flying on some very high capacity, high demand routes this winter. I guess it's a good way in increasing (or decreasing) capacity without taking as much risk with a larger plane (such as the A320).

What are your thoughts?

Remember that BOS-JFK, PBI, AUS, NAS, and AUS have all been announced as new E190 routes too.

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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:49 am

Sounds good, more BOS-FL capacity this winter. Will the new 190 flights be 190 all year round or become A320 during the spring and summer or will they just be a winter thing.

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Thread starter):
BOS-JFK, PBI, AUS, NAS, and AUS

No need to say AUS twice lol.

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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:54 am

Quoting JetBlueAtJFK (Reply 1):
No need to say AUS twice lol

No, but it's damn nice to see B6 starting into TX so maybe it was just the excitement :P
 
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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:17 pm

Haha...my bad. Yes I'm very excited about AUS. I hope it'll be a success of course, but maybe 3x out of JFK is a little bit too much? I would think 2x would be just perfect but let's see. B6 obviously knows more than I do...

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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:22 pm

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Thread starter):
BOS-TPA
2x A, 1x E (-56 seats over last year)

A decrease? Interesting... poor yield last year?

Quoting JetBlueAtJFK (Reply 1):
No need to say AUS twice lol.

apparently he likes the town!  duck  Hey, where is RIC?? I think that was what JetBluefan1 meant to type.

When will B6 add JAX? Sigh, I know, pure speculation...

As a stockholder I'm a little sad B6 is predicting a loss for the year (with the $9mill charge, I know). I'm very excited about the E-jets and *really* hope they turn the profit corner. (Note: I happen to agree with the new accounting rules, so I won't make an exception, even for a stock I own.)

Did Wilma have any impact on the plans to serve CUN? I really hope everyone is ok down there on the Yucatan peninsula. The pictures I've seen have been scary but not horrid...

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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:38 pm

interesting to see that the E190 will hit FLL!!!!!

will the first JFK-BOS flight be the first E190 flight...seats are only like $25!
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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:35 pm

The $25 fare sale is gone and is now $40. When looking at fares, I've seen many $120 ones so I would assume that those flights are pretty full. Neeleman also said himself that bookings have been very strong.

As far as BOS-TPA goes, the yields obviously suck, but I heard loads weren't that great last year. I guess they figure that it's better to fill up an E190 (while still getting the higher-end of prices) rather than have an A320 flying 65% full with only sale-fare travelers.

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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:38 pm

RE: Cancun,they will have that place cleaned up in no time..Unlike here in the States where we wait around for the "crews" or "authorties", those industrious Mexicans will get out there by the thousands(probably already starting today) cleaning , sawing trees removing debris, sweeping, ,etc..

Hell, they will probably bring in huge dredges and start pumping sand back on to the beach.
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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:13 am

Any news if/when B6 will use the -190's to ROC ? They could do n/s Florida service this winter along with Airtran.
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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:11 am

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Thread starter):
Remember that BOS-JFK, PBI, AUS, NAS, and AUS have all been announced as new E190 routes too.

JFK-AUS, JFK-RIC, BOS-RIC are also new E190 routes along with one r/t JFK-BUF and JFK-BTV.
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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:32 am

I am a bit surprised that JetBlue will be using 190s on certain BOS-FLorida routes - I really thought that the 190s would mainly services to new cities, new nonstop that "connect the dots" in JetBlues route system (ie, northern NY state cities to Florida cities), and take over some short haul hops (such as BUF to JFK) that could then be flown with increased frequency. Using the 190 on the BOS-PBI route seems a bit odd - but maybe all of this will be adjusted once more 190s are in service over at JetBlue.

I am surprised by the high-demand for BOS-JFK services: we all assume that pax to/from NYC prefer LGA over JFK for shorter domestic services - were we wrong or is the demand being fueled by the very reasonable introductory fares?
 
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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:46 am

Hmmm, maybe I should actually go to Florida for a vacation!
 
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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:45 am

According to a January schedule it looks like flight 71 (JFK-MCO) and 78 (MCO-JFK) are replaced by an E-190. New flight numbers are 1051 (JFK-MCO) and 1052 (MCO-JFK).
It seems that all flight numbers under 1000 is operated by A320's and all above by E-190's.
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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:56 am

Quoting SAS_A330-300 (Reply 12):
According to a January schedule it looks like flight 71 (JFK-MCO) and 78 (MCO-JFK) are replaced by an E-190. New flight numbers are 1051 (JFK-MCO) and 1052 (MCO-JFK).
It seems that all flight numbers under 1000 is operated by A320's and all above by E-190's.

Sounds odd because MCO is jetBlue's best performing route. Anyway seems like a good amount of 320's are going to come in and be unused so I am guessing more new 320 cities, routes and maybe another big new station like MIA??

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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:59 am

BOS-MCO has been successful, so even though E190's are coming online, there will still be an additional 44 seats in the market as there will be 4x Airbus and 2x Embraer.

BOS-FLL and RSW have also been very successful since launching, so I'm not surprised to see additional capacity there. BOS-TPA has never been a great route, so I'm not surprised to see the change there either.

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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:17 am

What about a red-eye BOS-SJU on the 190s? As I understand it, jetBlue is doing well on JFK-SJU
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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:22 am

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 15):
What about a red-eye BOS-SJU on the 190s?

I think that should be soon, it sounds good and B6 will have a lot of planes soon that are ready to be deployed on new routes,

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 15):
As I understand it, jetBlue is doing well on JFK-SJU

Yes, very well, they have normally 6 or 7X during summer and all other peak times (Thanksgiving, Christmas, March Break, Spring Break etc), but otherwise they have 3X during regular times.

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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:50 am

Quoting RJNUT (Reply 7):
Hell, they will probably bring in huge dredges and start pumping sand back on to the beach.
It is my favorites resort and am fully confident they will be ready for "the season"!!!!

If you say so. I'm not so sure I'd like to go down there and stay at a hotel with a moldy/mildewed first floor because they hurried to get things open rather than doing proper cleanup. I've been in hotels like that before. Not worth it.

Not to mention the totally flooded downtown and restaurants.
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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:03 am

I would think BOS-SJU would be 1x with an A320, not E190.

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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:40 pm

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 18):
I would think BOS-SJU would be 1x with an A320, not E190.

Yea and then grow to 2X 320 later on. It sounds like the market can support it so why not. And if they start MBJ and AUA and other Caribbean cities then they should probably have BOS service to with either 320 or 190 if it can make it or both.

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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:50 pm

I'd like to see B6 add 190 service from FLL to destinations like SJU, BQN, PSE (Is that the code for Ponce?).

FLL needs more service and would do very well with more destinations from B6.

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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:13 am

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Thread starter):
Just thought it was interesting to see that the E190s will be flying on some very high capacity, high demand routes this winter. I guess it's a good way in increasing (or decreasing) capacity without taking as much risk with a larger plane (such as the A320).


Will B6 need to limit luggage to 2 pieces/pax and 1 carry-on or leave the luggage rules status quo. I thought that the E190's had a smaller (per pax) cargo capacity. Not knowing what the average luggage requirement is for a biz pax vs. a vacationer who is traveling with children is, I would think that the vacationing family would have more.

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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:00 am

Effective Oct. 1, JetBlue now allows only 2 bags instead of 3, so there would be no need for them to reduce baggage allowance on the E's.

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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:39 pm

Quoting InTheSky74 (Reply 20):
I'd like to see B6 add 190 service from FLL to destinations like SJU, BQN, PSE (Is that the code for Ponce?).

FLL needs more service and would do very well with more destinations from B6.

B6 really doesnt have the room to expand that much at FLL. If anything, I think we'd see MCO-SJU, PSE, BQN, maybe NAS too.
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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:41 pm

Quoting FA4B6 (Reply 23):
B6 really doesnt have the room to expand that much at FLL. If anything, I think we'd see MCO-SJU, PSE, BQN, maybe NAS too.

I disagree. I think we'd see them from FLL before we see them from MCO, definitley. We'll have to wait and see what happens. jetBlue is definitley tight for gate space, but they've always managed to find a way to add more flights.
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RE: B6 To Use E190s On BOS-FL Routes

Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:02 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 24):
Quoting FA4B6 (Reply 23):
B6 really doesnt have the room to expand that much at FLL. If anything, I think we'd see MCO-SJU, PSE, BQN, maybe NAS too.

I disagree. I think we'd see them from FLL before we see them from MCO, definitley. We'll have to wait and see what happens. jetBlue is definitley tight for gate space, but they've always managed to find a way to add more flights.

I will agree with FA4B6 on that. Bigger chance it'll be MCO first rather than FLL.
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