kaitak744
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Photo Question

Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:46 am

I don't think any photo has puzzled me more than this one.


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1. Why are the engines in reverse thrust while the plane is in the air?
2. Why is there no door on the side of the aircraft?
3. Why is this aircraft in the U.S.? I always thought Russian planes weren't allowed in the U.S. because they are not FAA certified.
4. Why is this Airline in Los Angeles? I never knew LOT flew to L.A. When did they stop?
 
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RE: Photo Question

Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:05 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
1. Why are the engines in reverse thrust while the plane is in the air?

I believe that this was a normal practice on the IL-62

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Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
2. Why is there no door on the side of the aircraft?

I'm quite sure that there are doors on the side, but may not be visible in the photo (please see photo above).

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
3. Why is this aircraft in the U.S.? I always thought Russian planes weren't allowed in the U.S. because they are not FAA certified.

The picture was taken in 1990, Russian built aircraft have been frequent visitors to the US. SEA had quite a number of Aeroflots a week coming in. If any regulations have changed, I couldn't tell you. But don't forget that the AN124 and AN225 are also quite regular visitors in US airspace.

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kaitak744
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RE: Photo Question

Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:11 am

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 1):
The picture was taken in 1990, Russian built aircraft have been frequent visitors to the US. SEA had quite a number of Aeroflots a week coming in. If any regulations have changed, I couldn't tell you. But don't forget that the AN124 and AN225 are also quite regular visitors in US airspace.

Well, I know the Antonov 225 is FAA certified. And I assume the AN124 is too. However, I am pretty sure that other Russian aircraft are not, Which is one of the reasons Aeroflot has 767s to fly to the U.S.
 
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RE: Photo Question

Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:19 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 2):
However, I am pretty sure that other Russian aircraft are not, Which is one of the reasons Aeroflot has 767s to fly to the U.S.

I couldn't tell you when any FAA regulations (if any) were put in place. But Tu-154's, IL-62's and others were regular visitors into the US (SEA, JFK) well into the 1990's. This of course does not include any Government operated flights.
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RE: Photo Question

Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:20 am

If you Look Under the "SKI" of Polskie you will see an outline of a door.
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RE: Photo Question

Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:22 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Why is there no door on the side of the aircraft?

I would suggest there is, but given the age and (lack of) photo resolution quality, you probably just can't see any doors!
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RE: Photo Question

Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:29 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 2):
Well, I know the Antonov 225 is FAA certified. And I assume the AN124 is too. However, I am pretty sure that other Russian aircraft are not, Which is one of the reasons Aeroflot has 767s to fly to the U.S.

Well, let's just look at the IL62


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RE: Photo Question

Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:52 am

I'm guessing that the pilot can deploy the thrust reverse early because it's only on the outer # 1 & 4 and use the # 3 & 4 engine during landing.That make sense?


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RE: Photo Question

Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:17 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
. Why are the engines in reverse thrust while the plane is in the air

Common on the Type.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
2. Why is there no door on the side of the aircraft

Look closely near the letter T

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RE: Photo Question

Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:28 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
3. Why is this aircraft in the U.S.? I always thought Russian planes weren't allowed in the U.S. because they are not FAA certified.



Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 2):
However, I am pretty sure that other Russian aircraft are not, Which is one of the reasons Aeroflot has 767s to fly to the U.S.

Economy is the main reason SU flies the 767s into the US. They have flown their IL-62s into JFK, SEA and SFO as well as having flown the IL-96 into LAX.
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RE: Photo Question

Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:13 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Why is there no door on the side of the aircraft?



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 8):
Look closely near the letter T

and under the letters SKI in the word Polskie
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RE: Photo Question

Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:40 am

There are no FAA regulations banning any incoming Soviet aircraft because they are Soviet. There are NOISE restrictions that preclude their use in some places for regular flights. For the same reason one cannot start an airline in the US with BAC 1-11's or Caravelle's. The certification question has to do whether or not a US airline could acquire them rather than if a foreign airline can fly them into the US.

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