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Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:27 am

Does anyone know what LAX airport is doing for the A380 preperation? As far as I know, none of thier current gates can handle the aircraft.
 
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:35 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Does anyone know what LAX airport is doing for the A380 preperation? As far as I know, none of thier current gates can handle the aircraft.

Actually, there are gates that can handle the A380 now, the main issue is the taxiways.
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:36 am

This article describes some of the preparations.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/articles/1911852.html
 
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:43 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Actually, there are gates that can handle the A380 now, the main issue is the taxiways.

Believe me, I live in L.A. LAX is my home airport. I know it like the back of my hand. NO gate at LAX can handle the A380. Only the remote parkings can. And those aren't realy gates.
 
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:50 am

Having traveled through the remote gates before, I would find it a burden to have to go through that whole process after a 13 hour flight. I find that LAX is screwing themselves by not solving this problem. How stupid can they be? But as Alireza mentioned there are a number of gates that can handle the A380 and I believe there is also one in T4 that can right now....I do not remember which one it is off the top of my head though. But LAX will be A380 ready in 6 months you just watch.
 
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:57 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 3):
Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Actually, there are gates that can handle the A380 now, the main issue is the taxiways.

Believe me, I live in L.A. LAX is my home airport. I know it like the back of my hand. NO gate at LAX can handle the A380. Only the remote parkings can. And those aren't realy gates.

I live in the greater L.A. area as well and you look and see there are actually gates that can handle the A380 at this present point in time. Loot at T4....they have two QF 744's at a time in there sometimes with a good 25 yards in between wings there it is quite an impressive sight. Now explain to me how that could not handle the A380. The only problem would be how to taxi it into that alley, that's the tough part.
 
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:59 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 3):
Believe me, I live in L.A. LAX is my home airport. I know it like the back of my hand. NO gate at LAX can handle the A380. Only the remote parkings can. And those aren't realy gates.

L.A. is my home town and LAX is my home airport as well, I am well aware of the configuration at LAX. AA built the widebody gates at T4 big enough so that an A380 can park there. It is a matter of getting the A380 to the gates. Additionally, the remote gates are there and you can load aircraft from them, so how are they not gates?
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:04 am

Are the underground tunnels strong enough to support the weight of the heavier A380 driving over them to get to those T4 gates? They may be, but I don't know yes or no. That is one of the concerns all airports have with tunnels under taxiways/runways/gate areas.
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:07 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
Are the underground tunnels strong enough to support the weight of the heavier A380 driving over them to get to those T4 gates? They may be, but I don't know yes or no. That is one of the concerns all airports have with tunnels under taxiways/runways/gate areas.

The Sepulveda Tunnel should be strong enough to handle the load, and that was main concern as it is under the two longest runways
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:43 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
Does anyone know what LAX airport is doing for the A380 preperation?

One visible element of the preparations is now occurring with the reconfiguration (widening) of several taxiway intersections along Echo (parallel to 6L/24R). LAWA is working eastbound and the E-16 and BB intersections have been completed. Work is currently in process on the AA intersection.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
As far as I know, none of thier current gates can handle the aircraft.

This will be the next major step in the process. The reconfiguration of gates 101, 102, and 123A were scheduled to begin this month. However, the timeline has slipped a bit due to infrastructure issues and will commence in the 1st quarter of '06. The current plan (still subject to some modification) is to have dual level boarding at 101 and 123A. Holdrooms will be modified as well. The modification at 102 involves down-gauging the aircraft parking spot when 101 is occupied by an A380 and when 103 is occupied by B747.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):
AA built the widebody gates at T4 big enough so that an A380 can park there. It is a matter of getting the A380 to the gates.

Actually, AA modified gates 41 and 43 to accomodate up to B744. Theorectically, 43 has dimensions wherby it could accomodate an A380. However, gates 41 nor 45 could be used if 43 were occupied by the aircraft. The same holds for 48B - good physical dimensions but would block 48A and 49B if occupied.

But the true limitation in using gate 43 is the width of alleyway C-10 as the wingspan of the A380 would penetrate the apron limit lines parallelling T-4 and TBIT South.
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:32 am

Good summary AAway.

LAWA did get a late start on A380 work as much of the required changes got mired in the much grander LAX redevelopment plans.
After much pressure from airlines (some of it very public ala Virgin) LAWA did finally begin to proceed with what I would term minimal improvements to make A380 operations possible at LAX until larger portions of the LAX masterplan come to fruition.

Much of the needed work for the A380 reminds me of similar issues experienced by airports around the world to make them B747 capable in the late 60s and early 1970s.

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
Are the underground tunnels strong enough to support the weight of the heavier A380



Quoting N1120A (Reply 8):
The Sepulveda Tunnel should be strong enough to handle the load,

The Sepulveda tunnel is not an issue for the A380. As part of taxiway C extension a few years back when the tunnel was widened there were several structural improvements made to strengthen it primarily for seismic reasons but also allow higher weights to pass above.
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:42 am

Laxint,
Glad you're around to chime in. A question, I know LAX-Two has signaled its intention of modifying at least one T-2 gate, but haven't heard any news or specifics on that front lately. Any info on your end?
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:10 am

Will LAX(or any airport making A380 related changes) charge substantial fees to A380 operators to pay for any changes? It seems unfair to make smaller airlines pay for changes they are not inducing.
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:27 am

Very interesting thread Kaitak744, and to all the responders, thanks for the awesome information. After a recent thread showing the dimensional differences between the 747 and A380, I was extremely curious about what airports would be doing to get ready. Especially those with underground transportation systems. Thanks to all you A-Netters who are so knowledgable, for answering the question so thoroughly, and once again Kaitak744, great thread question !! Also, does anyone know of any other airports that are getting ready ? Or should be ??

[Edited 2005-10-30 02:29:25]
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:34 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 14):
LAX needs at least 2 gates at Tom Bradley Terminal (for SQ, Korean Air, LH, Emirates, TG, and QF)

On a pure polar routing, DXB-LAX is almost 7300nm. Given the heat in Dubai, winds and the possibility that the A380 will miss its targeted range of 8000nm still air by even a little bit, EK will likely have to stick to A345 service. QF prefers to be with American in T4, though that presents its own issues, and the others can use the remotes quite easily for the time being. In fact, I see a shift of who uses the TBIT gates and who uses the remotes at these times because of the A380

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 14):
at least 2 in Terminal 2 (for VS and AF).

In all likelihood, VS and NZ may have to do a gate swap as 744s already come close to interfering with the taxiways while parked in the VS gate. AF becomes a seperate issue, as they are a new tenant but own one of the partner carriers in T2. It may come down to juggling times for the A380 there or using remote gates as well
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:42 am

Quoting Aaway (Reply 9):
Actually, AA modified gates 41 and 43 to accomodate up to B744. Theorectically, 43 has dimensions wherby it could accomodate an A380. However, gates 41 nor 45 could be used if 43 were occupied by the aircraft. The same holds for 48B - good physical dimensions but would block 48A and 49B if occupied.

Well, yes, I am aware of that. T4 does the same thing when Qantas brings in 2 747s at once. They use 3 gates for 2 aircraft. If the A380 did that where ever it went, it wouldn't pretty for the airlines being kicked out.  Smile.

The thing is, LAX needs at least 2 gates at Tom Bradley Terminal (for SQ, Korean Air, LH, Emirates, TG, and QF) and at least 2 in Terminal 2 (for VS and AF).
 
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:34 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 15):
On a pure polar routing, DXB-LAX is almost 7300nm. Given the heat in Dubai, winds and the possibility that the A380 will miss its targeted range of 8000nm still air by even a little bit, EK will likely have to stick to A345 service. QF prefers to be with American in T4, though that presents its own issues, and the others can use the remotes quite easily for the time being. In fact, I see a shift of who uses the TBIT gates and who uses the remotes at these times because of the A380

Yea, I ment a one stop A380 flight. You would think that an airline with 43 A380s would fly into the worlds 5th bussiest airport with one right?  Smile

Quoting N1120A (Reply 15):
I see a shift of who uses the TBIT gates and who uses the remotes at these times because of the A380

I see the remote gates out of the question. The remote gates at LAX are only used when there is contruction at the terminal gates. The rest of the time, the aircrafts are just stored there between arrivals and departures. Not to mention the head ache of bussing 555 people.
 
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:43 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 16):
Yea, I ment a one stop A380 flight. You would think that an airline with 43 A380s would fly into the worlds 5th bussiest airport with one right?

Why do a one-stop when business demand is a non-stop? Also, where would you stop it?

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 16):
I see the remote gates out of the question. The remote gates at LAX are only used when there is contruction at the terminal gates.

That is completely untrue. The remote gates are used everyday.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 16):
Not to mention the head ache of bussing 555 people.

Most will not hold that many. SQ's, for example, will hold 497
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:14 pm

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 10):
The Sepulveda tunnel is not an issue for the A380.

Yeah, that's why I asked about the terminal connection tunnels, and not the runway. You know, the closed to pax sterile tunnels on the south side of the airport?

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 16):
You would think that an airline with 43 A380s would fly into the worlds 5th bussiest airport with one right?

And it is still unclear whether EK will operate 43 at one time. In other words, their delivery may be spaced so that as the last 380s come in they are replacing earlier 380s going out on lease to second tier carriers, a good business model for EK.
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:16 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 16):
I see the remote gates out of the question. The remote gates at LAX are only used when there is contruction at the terminal gates. The rest of the time, the aircrafts are just stored there between arrivals and departures. Not to mention the head ache of bussing 555 people.

As someone who works for one of the TBIT carriers, I wish the remotes were used sparingly. It's a decided lack of contact gates during peak periods primarily driving remote gate usage.

There are other factors. Long ground time on turns is a factor. OSO comes into play regularly. Even aircraft gauge can be a factor. My carrier is one affected by aircraft gauge and the only TBIT contact gates that can accomodate our aircraft are 103, 105, and 120. Thai Airways will have the same headache beginning next month when they commence BKK-LAX-BKK n/s with the A340-600.

LAWA has a gate mangement policy for TBIT which factors the tenured carriers and their historical scheduling pattern in determining gate usage.

[Edited 2005-10-30 04:31:52]
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:18 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
Are the underground tunnels strong enough to support the weight of the heavier A380 driving over them to get to those T4 gates?

Not a factor since the wingspan of the A380 will not permit it to manouever in the south side alleyways.
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:29 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 17):
Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 16):
I see the remote gates out of the question. The remote gates at LAX are only used when there is contruction at the terminal gates.

That is completely untrue. The remote gates are used everyday.

Well, my mistake. I ment when there are no more space available in TB or T2, only then they use the parkaings. Sorry about that.
 
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:43 am

Quoting Aaway (Reply 19):

Aaway, does your carrier use the 346? I didn't realize they may have a problem with this ac? Is it because of it's length and they need the TBIT gates on the end to give them enough all around room so not to block the other jetways?

Will QF/AA install two jetways into the gates QF uses for their 744s now? It sounds like that would be a good idea and would allow AA to use them for the 772s? Does this require additional ground space?

Thanks for the information guys and gals.

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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:52 am

Quoting Aaway (Reply 19):
Thai Airways will have the same headache beginning next month when they commence BKK-LAX-BKK n/s with the A340-600.

I think that will be done with the 340-500.

It's a bit too long for a non HGW 346.
 
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:57 am

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 10):
After much pressure from airlines (some of it very public ala Virgin) LAWA did finally begin to proceed with what I would term minimal improvements to make A380 operations possible at LAX until larger portions of the LAX masterplan come to fruition.

Could you tell us more about that masterplan? Since I'm 5000 nm away from LA I'm not so involved in the details  Wink Thanks

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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:07 am

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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:38 am

Quoting Aaway (Reply 19):
Thai Airways will have the same headache beginning next month when they commence BKK-LAX-BKK n/s with the A340-600.



Quoting A360 (Reply 23):
I think that will be done with the 340-500.

It's a bit too long for a non HGW 346

Thanks for catching my error  Wink With the Winter '05 schedule, effective today, TG has begun LAX service with the A346. The routing remains BKK-KIX-LAX-KIX-BKK.

The planned BKK-LAX-BKK n/s with the A345 has been scrubbed for now.
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:51 am

LAX is not ready as SQ was told that they would have to use remote bays for parking.

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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:01 am

where can you find a list of airports which intend to be A380 ready??
 
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:21 am

Quoting LACA773 (Reply 22):
Aaway, does your carrier use the 346?

Yes, China Eastern Airlines.

Quoting LACA773 (Reply 22):
I didn't realize they may have a problem with this ac? Is it because of it's length and they need the TBIT gates on the end to give them enough all around room so not to block the other jetways?

It's the length coupled with the width of the well of the gate. Gates 103, 105, and 120 are the only gates that have both attributes in accommodating an A346. The forward cargo compartment of the A346 juts further into the well than that of a B744, thus causing clearance and maneuvering issues for ground equipment.
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:30 am

Quoting Airlinerfreak (Reply 4):
Having traveled through the remote gates before, I would find it a burden to have to go through that whole process after a 13 hour flight.

LoL if you went through 13 hours of light you can take an extra 10 minutes can't you?
 
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:21 am

Quoting Aaway (Reply 20):
Not a factor since the wingspan of the A380 will not permit it to manouever in the south side alleyways.

Ah, that's kind of what I thought. So the A380 is a strictly an "end of the pier" plane at LAX it would seem.
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:16 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 31):
Ah, that's kind of what I thought. So the A380 is a strictly an "end of the pier" plane at LAX it would seem.

But there seem to be a good number of "end of the pier" positions that could be upgraded, am I right?

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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:18 pm

Quoting A350 (Reply 32):
But there seem to be a good number of "end of the pier" positions that could be upgraded, am I right?

Yea, 2 at each end of Tom Bradely. And mabe one at the end of T4?
 
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:34 pm

What about T2 and/or T7? Both take 744s now, but is the wingspan of the A380 an issue?
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:38 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 34):
What about T2 and/or T7? Both take 744s now, but is the wingspan of the A380 an issue?

No, but the length is.
 
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:45 pm

That 8 ft is going to make that much a difference? Is there nothing they can do to slightly reorient the angle of the jet when they redo the jetways for the A380?
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:00 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 36):
That 8 ft is going to make that much a difference? Is there nothing they can do to slightly reorient the angle of the jet when they redo the jetways for the A380?

Well, thats what they do for the 747. That aircraft barely fits into T7 and T2. Even at the best possible angle.

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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:12 pm

Quoting Aaway (Reply 26):
The planned BKK-LAX-BKK n/s with the A345 has been scrubbed for now.

Can you go into any detail about this?

Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 30):

LoL if you went through 13 hours of light you can take an extra 10 minutes can't you?

As someone who has been on a 13 hour flight segment that had a bus ride between it and the next connection, I can say that I would prefer to have a terminal gate instead. It's not make-or-brake, but all things being equal I would prefer to hop off the plane into the terminal instead of finding a seat on a bus.
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:12 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 34):
What about T2 and/or T7? Both take 744s now, but is the wingspan of the A380 an issue?

No comment on T-7 since an A380 is not in UA's immediate future. But, IIRC,T-2 has upgrades (dual level jetways) planned for gates 25 and 26. I don't have a timeline as I haven't heard anything about this project for better than a year. The length of the fuselage will not be an issue (VS flies an A346 during the off season). To compensate for wingspan, the adjacent gate(s) will be down-gauged when an A380 is being serviced.
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:30 pm

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 12):
Will LAX(or any airport making A380 related changes) charge substantial fees to A380 operators to pay for any changes? It seems unfair to make smaller airlines pay for changes they are not inducing.

i find that a very interesting question. I would guess that these expansions are covered generally over the taxes and aren't paid from future A380 operators alone.
But anyone heard plans of airport operators? Would be interesting to hear.

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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:14 pm

Quoting Jush (Reply 40):
i find that a very interesting question. I would guess that these expansions are covered generally over the taxes and aren't paid from future A380 operators alone.
But anyone heard plans of airport operators? Would be interesting to hear.

Atleast for LAX, the prospective A380 operators are not penalized.
Cost for any airfield modifications come from general funds.

The A380 operators like all airlines will be paying landing, parking and per passenger fees which obviously however will be greater then current operators due to the aircraft weight and capacity.
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:46 pm

Quoting Aaway (Reply 29):

Aaway, Thanks for the information. When you mention "the adjacent gates will be down gauged" what does that mean?

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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:57 am

Quoting LACA773 (Reply 42):
Aaway, Thanks for the information. When you mention "the adjacent gates will be down gauged" what does that mean?

Sure. Refer to page 85 of the following link:

www.laxmasterplan.org/docs/draft_mp/...sting_Conditions_Working_paper.pdf

(Figure II-2.15) You'll have a schematic of the LAX CTA circa 1994. If you look at the T-2 drawing notice that gates 21, 21B, 23, 22, 24, and 24A are represented by the A320/B757 aircraft drawn. However, also notice the faint outline of B744s at 21, 23, 22, 24. This is an example of gauging - whereby the size of the aircraft determines what, and/or, how many gates can be used if adjacent gates are occupied.

With the T-2 example, either 6 n/b or 4 w/b aircraft can be accommodated at gates 21, 22, 23, and 24.

Reconfigured A380 gates will have the same affect when such operations begin.
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:34 am

Quoting Trex8 (Reply 28):
where can you find a list of airports which intend to be A380 ready??

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/8803/fa3xx.htm#airp
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:14 am

Quoting Aaway (Reply 44):
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/8803/fa3xx.htm#airp

That site is very outdated.
 
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:54 am

Okay, try this one:

www.airbuschina.com.cn/pdf/a380/a380airport_compat.pdf

And if that still isn't satisfactory, then you may try Google.
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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:59 am

Quoting Aaway (Reply 46):
Okay, try this one:

www.airbuschina.com.cn/pdf/a380/a380airport_compat.pdf

And if that still isn't satisfactory, then you may try Google.

Thank you.  Wink

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RE: Is LAX A380 Ready?

Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:48 pm

Quoting Satx (Reply 38):
As someone who has been on a 13 hour flight segment that had a bus ride between it and the next connection, I can say that I would prefer to have a terminal gate instead. It's not make-or-brake, but all things being equal I would prefer to hop off the plane into the terminal instead of finding a seat on a bus.

First of all I have never been at the LAX remote gates so I can't speak with any experience. However, I have been bussed to & from aircraft in Europe and Asia many times. The LAX remote gates are at the far west end of the field. LAX is usually west ops; therefore taxi times from either north or south-complex runway is relatively short. If the TBIT alley way is blocked or an aircraft is occupying a gate, then what's better. There is nothing more than I hate than arriving at the airport and then waiting for a gate to open or traffic to clear regardless if its a one hour flight or 13 hour flight.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 37):

Thanks for the pics. I never knew the LAX alleyways were that tight. There's no friggen way an A380 is fitting in those gates.

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