comorin
Posts: 3857
Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 5:52 am

Will CO's EWR-DEL Be Better Than TG JFK-BKK?

Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:22 pm

Based on hearsay from four recent flyers on the TG Ultra Longhaul, I heard the following complaints:

1. They STARVED - only 2 meals on a 16 hr flight! In fact a frequent traveler near our passenger brought along some hamburgers because she knew about this. Is there a limitation of the number of hot meals you can load in a 340 galley, and can the 777 ER do better?

2. Long lines at the toilets; also not very clean. Does ULH mean that the WC/passenger ratio needs to be higher. How does the 777 ER compare?

3. Two passengers wished that it had been a 747 - the 340 felt cramped for such a long flight.

Passengers involved were all Asian, 2 Thai, all slim people, 4 separate flights in the last 4 months. Travel was in Y class. For al the above problems, they would still do it again because the non-stop is so convenient. Interesting that they would put up with all the above hassles versus stopping en-route, stretching one's legs, extra meals, get a cup of coffee and so on.

Hope TG finds this feedback useful, and hope CO can avoid some of these problems on its new nonstop to DEL.
 
dcflyer9
Posts: 13
Joined: Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:33 am

RE: Will CO's EWR-DEL Be Better Than TG JFK-BKK?

Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:34 pm

Standard economy class seats offer 37 inches of pitch on Thai's New York non stop. Continental offers 31 inches. You can also seat in permium economy which is a wider seat and offers 42 inches of pitch. You also get AVOD.
I've flown the continental flight ewr-hkg and the bathrooms were absolutely nasty by the end of the trip. I haven't flown Thai but have not had that problem on either Cathay or Singapore.
 
manni
Posts: 4049
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2001 1:48 am

RE: Will CO's EWR-DEL Be Better Than TG JFK-BKK?

Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:09 pm

Quoting Comorin (Thread starter):
1. They STARVED - only 2 meals on a 16 hr flight! In fact a frequent traveler near our passenger brought along some hamburgers because she knew about this. Is there a limitation of the number of hot meals you can load in a 340 galley, and can the 777 ER do better?

2. Long lines at the toilets; also not very clean. Does ULH mean that the WC/passenger ratio needs to be higher. How does the 777 ER compare?

3. Two passengers wished that it had been a 747 - the 340 felt cramped for such a long flight.

Passengers involved were all Asian, 2 Thai, all slim people, 4 separate flights in the last 4 months. Travel was in Y class. For al the above problems, they would still do it again because the non-stop is so convenient. Interesting that they would put up with all the above hassles versus stopping en-route, stretching one's legs, extra meals, get a cup of coffee and so on.

Haven't flown TG from BKK to JFK, but did fly them several times between BKK and Europe and ICN and BKK.

1. On the longhaul flights they do serve only 2 meals but come around with snacks in between, snacks are also available troughout the flight on request.

2. Long lines at the toilet? With flights to Delhi dont expect it to be any better , did you consider what could happen if they serve a curry in economy?  Wink

3. Honestly, I've never had so much legroom in economy as on Thai's intercontinental flights, and if the pitch is indeed 37 inches, that's impressive.
SUPPORT THE LEBANESE CIVILIANS
 
ARGinLON
Posts: 550
Joined: Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:26 pm

RE: Will CO's EWR-DEL Be Better Than TG JFK-BKK?

Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:00 pm

Don't they clean the toilets during the flight on this extremely long flights?
 
User avatar
STT757
Posts: 13200
Joined: Tue Mar 28, 2000 1:14 am

RE: Will CO's EWR-DEL Be Better Than TG JFK-BKK?

Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:58 am

CO has been flying EWR-HKG nonstop for five years, EWR-HKG is longer than EWR-DEL so Im sure they know what they are doing by now with regards to long hauls.
Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
 
hardiwv
Posts: 4341
Joined: Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:30 pm

RE: Will CO's EWR-DEL Be Better Than TG JFK-BKK?

Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:03 am

Quoting STT757 (Reply 4):
CO has been flying EWR-HKG nonstop for five years, EWR-HKG is longer than EWR-DEL so Im sure they know what they are doing by now with regards to long hauls.

How is CO's EWR-HKG doing? Any info on loads? Is this the longest nonstop flight of any airline?

Rgs,
 
drerx7
Posts: 4218
Joined: Fri Jun 30, 2000 12:19 am

RE: Will CO's EWR-DEL Be Better Than TG JFK-BKK?

Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:04 am

This thread is somewhat confusing--are you asking about the financial success or which is better--customer service? Finacially the flight will be a greater success than TGs JFK-BKK (can the two routes be compaired anyway?). Comfort is better on TG but the flight is performing poorly.
Third Coast born, means I'm Texas raised
 
User avatar
STT757
Posts: 13200
Joined: Tue Mar 28, 2000 1:14 am

RE: Will CO's EWR-DEL Be Better Than TG JFK-BKK?

Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:08 am

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 5):
How is CO's EWR-HKG doing? Any info on loads? Is this the longest nonstop flight of any airline?

SQ's EWR-SIN is the worlds longest nonstop flight, it took the title from CO's EWR-HKG route.
Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
 
RedChili
Posts: 1440
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:23 am

RE: Will CO's EWR-DEL Be Better Than TG JFK-BKK?

Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:10 am

Quoting STT757 (Reply 7):
SQ's EWR-SIN is the worlds longest nonstop flight, it took the title from CO's EWR-HKG route.

No, it took the title from SQ's SIN-LAX route.
Top 10 airplanes: B737, T154, B747, IL96, T134, IL62, A320, MD80, B757, DC10
 
JetMaster
Posts: 583
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:46 am

RE: Will CO's EWR-DEL Be Better Than TG JFK-BKK?

Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:12 am

Quoting Comorin (Thread starter):
Based on hearsay from four recent flyers on the TG Ultra Longhaul, I heard the following complaints:



Quoting Comorin (Thread starter):
Passengers involved were all Asian, 2 Thai, all slim people, 4 separate flights in the last 4 months. Travel was in Y class.

Totally insufficient for a "survey". 400 pax would be more useful.

Quoting Comorin (Thread starter):
Two passengers wished that it had been a 747 - the 340 felt cramped for such a long flight.

I'd be interested how many B747s these people have flown with 37 inches of pitch in Eco...  eyebrow 

Quoting Comorin (Thread starter):
Is there a limitation of the number of hot meals you can load in a 340 galley, and can the 777 ER do better?

Apparently not. Haven't heard complaints about SIA's meal service on the ULH flights yet.


Regards,
JM
The Journey is my Destination
 
roseflyer
Posts: 9606
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 9:34 am

RE: Will CO's EWR-DEL Be Better Than TG JFK-BKK?

Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:43 am

Quoting Comorin (Thread starter):
1. They STARVED - only 2 meals on a 16 hr flight! In fact a frequent traveler near our passenger brought along some hamburgers because she knew about this. Is there a limitation of the number of hot meals you can load in a 340 galley, and can the 777 ER do better?

SQ serves two and half meals on their ULH EWR-SIN flight. They do two full meal services and one snack (which is basic breakfast food). Galleys are installed according to specifications given by the airline, so it is TG's choice on how much space to have and how many meals to serve.

Quoting Comorin (Thread starter):
2. Long lines at the toilets; also not very clean. Does ULH mean that the WC/passenger ratio needs to be higher. How does the 777 ER compare?

This seems to happen near the end of all long haul flights. Everyone wants to freshen up after they sleep, so lines can get long and there isn't time for the flight attendants to clean up the lavatories. This is not specific to TG. Also the number of lavatories in economy is never enough due to space considerations. If you want adequate lavs and few if any lines, fly business class.

Quoting Comorin (Thread starter):
3. Two passengers wished that it had been a 747 - the 340 felt cramped for such a long flight.

Good luck on that one as the 747 keeps getting replaced by A340s and 777s on long haul routes throughout the world.

In general two of the "hassles" would be fixed by buying a business class ticket and not by flying on a different type of airplane. Although it might sound daunting, ULH flights are quite nice as you don't have to deal with the hassles and wasted time of stopovers. I prefer 18 hours nonstop over two 9 hour flights. An ULH lets you set your own sleep schedule on the flight. And if you fly in business class you can choose when to eat your meals and have more options to snack in between.
If you have never designed an airplane part before, let the real designers do the work!
 
Lufthansa747
Posts: 2953
Joined: Tue May 18, 1999 7:45 am

RE: Will CO's EWR-DEL Be Better Than TG JFK-BKK?

Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:04 am

Quoting Comorin (Thread starter):
They STARVED - only 2 meals on a 16 hr flight!

TG serves three hot meals on the flight at least from BKK to JFK, all with multiple main course choices, perhaps they slept.

Quoting Comorin (Thread starter):
the 340 felt cramped for such a long flight

TG 345 is perhaps the most spaciously configured commercial aircraft out there.
Air Asia Super Elite, Cebu Pacific Titanium
 
A360
Posts: 426
Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:41 pm

RE: Will CO's EWR-DEL Be Better Than TG JFK-BKK?

Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:44 am

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 5):
How is CO's EWR-HKG doing? Any info on loads? Is this the longest nonstop flight of any airline?



Quoting STT757 (Reply 7):
SQ's EWR-SIN is the worlds longest nonstop flight, it took the title from CO's EWR-HKG route.



Quoting RedChili (Reply 8):
No, it took the title from SQ's SIN-LAX route.

And SQ's SIN-LAX had taken the tittle from CX's HKG-JFK flights(10 km longer than EWR-HKG..hehe).  Wink