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SQ21 Via Atlantic Or Pacific

Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:33 pm

Does SQ 21 from EWR to SIN via Atlantic or Pacific ocean? It will make sense to fly over Atlantic because wind direction.
 
vincewy
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RE: SQ21 Via Atlantic Or Pacific

Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:52 am

Neither, over Acrtic Ocean (polar).
 
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RE: SQ21 Via Atlantic Or Pacific

Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:57 am

Quoting Vincewy (Reply 1):
Neither, over Acrtic Ocean (polar).

Actually that is incorrect. Flight SQ21/22 is a true round the world flight. SQ21 goes over the Atlantic and Euroope. SQ22 returns over the Pacific.

Very rarely does it take the Polar Route, unless the winds are against it heading east.
 
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RE: SQ21 Via Atlantic Or Pacific

Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:58 am

according to Great Circle Mapper ( which does not always reflect the actual route flown ) the route would be on the "Atlantic" side of the pole rather than the "Pacific" side .


Some kind person told me once how to post maps from the great circle mapper ... but being the dopey @#$#%*^ I am I have managed to delete the instructions .. otherwise I would post the map .


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[Edited 2005-11-02 17:08:00]
 
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RE: SQ21 Via Atlantic Or Pacific

Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:00 am

SQ 21 goes EITHER transpolar or transatlantic, depending on winds and/or European ATC constraints. The return almost always goes Transpacific
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Pieinthesky
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RE: SQ21 Via Atlantic Or Pacific

Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:06 am

It goes over the Atlantic and down through Northern Europe.

SIN-EWR goes up over Japan and Alaska and down through Canada, unless they've changed the route since I flew it earlier this year.
 
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RE: SQ21 Via Atlantic Or Pacific

Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:15 am

I recently flew EWR-SIN-EWR on SQ 21/22 and it used a polar route on the EWR-SIN leg and a Pacific route on the SIN-EWR leg. It all depends on winds of the day.

On SQ21 we took off from EWR and headed directly north on a polar route. We passed very close to the North Pole and then came down through Siberia, passed over Mongolia, then headed through China (directly over Wuhan) and then into the South China Sea passing just east of Vietnam before landing into SIN. Total air time was 17hrs and 40min.

On SQ22 we took off and headed northwest over the South China Sea, directly over Naha, then on very close to Tokyo before heading more westerly. We stayed south of the 60 parallel and a good distance south of ANC. We crossed into North America just south of Vancouver before paralleling the US/Candian border. We finally crossed the border close to Buffalo NY before heading into EWR. Total flight time was 18hrs 20min (but some of that was due to delays on arrival into EWR as the flight time should have been closer to 18hrs)

You can read the trip report that I wrote for the flights if you want more information:
United/Singapore ORD-EWR-SIN In Raffles Class (by RoseFlyer Oct 17 2005 in Trip Reports)
SQ/UA SIN-EWR-ORD Raffles Class (stranded In EWR) (by RoseFlyer Oct 24 2005 in Trip Reports

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RE: SQ21 Via Atlantic Or Pacific

Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:36 am

Pieinthesky & RoseFlyer,

I think your both correct, will depend on the time of year and the location of the polar jet stream.
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persotvik
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RE: SQ21 Via Atlantic Or Pacific

Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:13 am

And what about TG's BKK-JFK flight? The same routes?
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RE: SQ21 Via Atlantic Or Pacific

Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:39 am

Same question for CX JFK-HKG...
 
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RE: SQ21 Via Atlantic Or Pacific

Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:54 am

Quoting Dartland (Reply 9):
Same question for CX JFK-HKG...

I flew this route last month. It was a Pacific routing, crossing Taiwan, Japan, passing just south of ANC, across Canada to Toronto, and then into JFK.

CX All Asia Pass (10 Flights With Pictures)
You can read the last segment here for a more detailed description of the routing.