N908AW
Topic Author
Posts: 864
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:05 pm

Allegiant Announces PSP-LAS

Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:21 pm

'Cause you're on ATA again, and on ATA, you're on vacation!
 
notdownnlocked
Posts: 925
Joined: Sun Sep 03, 2000 1:45 pm

RE: Allegiant Announces PSP-LAS

Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:29 pm

OH GOODY? I'M SO HAPPY THEY WILL BE SO ON THIS ROUTE BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE WILL. GOOD LUCK AND GOOD PLANNING FOR ALLEGIANT. yOU GO GO AND GO.
 
iowaman
Posts: 3874
Joined: Thu May 20, 2004 2:29 am

RE: Allegiant Announces PSP-LAS

Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:43 pm

Quoting Notdownnlocked (Reply 1):
OH GOODY? I'M SO HAPPY THEY WILL BE SO ON THIS ROUTE BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE WILL. GOOD LUCK AND GOOD PLANNING FOR ALLEGIANT. yOU GO GO AND GO

Are you ok? A little to much crack? Skywest already does LAS-PSP with the EMB-120's 3x daily and HP (Mesa) with the Dash-8.
 
as739x
Posts: 5008
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2003 7:23 am

RE: Allegiant Announces PSP-LAS

Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:58 pm

Whats a waste of fuel. To get an MD80 up and then back down..oh yeah!

ASSFO
"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
 
iowaman
Posts: 3874
Joined: Thu May 20, 2004 2:29 am

RE: Allegiant Announces PSP-LAS

Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:58 pm

Quoting AS739X (Reply 3):
Whats a waste of fuel. To get an MD80 up and then back down..oh yeah!

I guess your airline wastes fuel then, SEA-GEG has multiple MD-80's on that route and it's less than 200nm too.
 
as739x
Posts: 5008
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2003 7:23 am

RE: Allegiant Announces PSP-LAS

Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:23 pm

Iowaman, Biz market. These are 2 different markets so please don't compare. GEG-SEA, people connecting for business. It also runs as you said a few times a day so you can get home that night, as well as Q400's mixed in. Allegiant, twice weekly with a $29 fare between to leisure destinations, though PSP can get some high fares. But please come back to be with a better comparison then that Iowa.

ASLAX
"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
 
flyboy7974
Posts: 1210
Joined: Sat Jan 18, 2003 4:35 pm

RE: Allegiant Announces PSP-LAS

Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:08 pm

first of all, i think it's a smart move. they probably had the md-80 just sitting there for a few hours at the gate, what a quick way for the weekend traveler to get more tourists into vegas. less than an hour flight, plane back to vegas within hours, and plus, with all the snowbirds in the psp area through the winter time, i am sure this will only be seasonal service, and by the end of spring, we'll be hearing the route not in service.
 
loisencroach
Posts: 372
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:56 am

RE: Allegiant Announces PSP-LAS

Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:18 pm

I never would have guessed Palm Springs. I have no criticism....just that I am actually pretty suprised.
 
LAXintl
Posts: 20183
Joined: Wed May 24, 2000 12:12 pm

RE: Allegiant Announces PSP-LAS

Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:27 pm

Topic been going since last week.
New Airline Into Palm Springs? (by Anzacbat Oct 28 2005 in Civil Aviation)
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
 
loisencroach
Posts: 372
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:56 am

RE: Allegiant Announces PSP-LAS

Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:23 pm

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 8):

I just assumed that Frontier/Horizon was the carrier. I don't really care about Palm Springs, so I haven't been keeping up on it.
 
FATFlyer
Posts: 4446
Joined: Fri May 18, 2001 4:12 am

RE: Allegiant Announces PSP-LAS

Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:18 am

I don't know what to think on this route. I would have liked to have seen some way to allow passengers to self connect in LAS like WNs DAL flights to another airport then a connection.

Perhaps vacation packages combining LAS and PSP stays with a flight between the two should be offered for East Coast travellers. (Anyone want to pass that on to G4 marketing? Just tell them where you got the idea from  Wink )

On the other hand you do have a lot of people and money at both ends and people who live in both areas do take getaway trips. Many probably do not like the I-15 crawl.

I don't know the PSP area that well so I don't know if the preferred route to Vegas by car is west into the SB/Riverside area then north on 15 OR using some of the desert back highways to 15. But it still must be roughly a 4 or 5 hour drive vs. a short flight.

One of the articles below had the following quote, Howard Jacobs, sales director for the Palm Springs Bureau of Tourism, expects the number of flights to increase. "We get, surprisingly, a good deal of visitors from Vegas. A lot more than we anticipated," he said. While most drive to the community, the Allegiant deal should change that, Jacobs said.

This may turn out to be another route where Allegiant's package sales offset the cost of the short flight.

http://www.thedesertsun.com/apps/pbc...BUSINESS01/511030316/1003/business
http://www.pe.com/business/local/sto...s/PE_Biz_D_airline03.214f1073.html
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
 
BigGSFO
Posts: 2214
Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2005 5:27 am

RE: Allegiant Announces PSP-LAS

Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:23 am

Yeah I am surprised at PSP too. It just doesn't make sense to me unless Allegiant has some tour packages to make it work. If residents want to get to Vegas cheap, they can drive it or catch WN at ONT with their multiple daily flights.

But great for Allegiant if they can make it work.
 
vegasplanes
Posts: 656
Joined: Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:22 pm

RE: Allegiant Announces PSP-LAS

Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:31 am

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 10):
On the other hand you do have a lot of people and money at both ends and people who live in both areas do take getaway trips. Many probably do not like the I-15 crawl.

I don't know the PSP area that well so I don't know if the preferred route to Vegas by car is west into the SB/Riverside area then north on 15 OR using some of the desert back highways to 15. But it still must be roughly a 4 or 5 hour drive vs. a short flight.

I-15 is hell just about anytime going back and forth to CA. Surpirsed there was not more capacity on this route before hand. Along with the 100 or so flights a day to other SoCal destinations.
 
N1120A
Posts: 26468
Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2003 5:40 pm

RE: Allegiant Announces PSP-LAS

Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:33 am

My question is, will this put pressure on OO's flights, given that they operate them "at-risk" even though they are branded as United Express flights?
Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
 
N908AW
Topic Author
Posts: 864
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:05 pm

RE: Allegiant Announces PSP-LAS

Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:55 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
My question is, will this put pressure on OO's flights, given that they operate them "at-risk" even though they are branded as United Express flights?

No more than the FAT-LAS -120s are.
'Cause you're on ATA again, and on ATA, you're on vacation!
 
iowaman
Posts: 3874
Joined: Thu May 20, 2004 2:29 am

RE: Allegiant Announces PSP-LAS

Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:08 am

Quoting AS739X (Reply 5):
Iowaman, Biz market. These are 2 different markets so please don't compare. GEG-SEA, people connecting for business. It also runs as you said a few times a day so you can get home that night, as well as Q400's mixed in. Allegiant, twice weekly with a $29 fare between to leisure destinations, though PSP can get some high fares. But please come back to be with a better comparison then that Iowa.

Correct, they are two different markets, however the point you criticized was that it was a waste of fuel.