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AC A345 C-GKOM Now With New Tail Scheme.

Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:21 am

As the title says C-GKOM now has the tail in the new colours, NOT THE BODY.

952's been in the hangar at HAECO for at least 4-5 days but now its parked outside.
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RE: AC A345 C-GKOM Now With New Tail Scheme.

Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:25 am

too bad, this bird will be homeless when the big bad Boeing come into the picture. Airbus is bumming right now... 345 is a very beautiful plane... But looks don't always sell... Too bad...
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RE: AC A345 C-GKOM Now With New Tail Scheme.

Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:30 am

AC are getting Boeing so Airbus are doomed  biggrin 

Anyway as far as aircraft go the 777 is great but I will always take a A330 / A340 over one because of the seating in Y.
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RE: AC A345 C-GKOM Now With New Tail Scheme.

Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:54 am

Why would AC get the tail painted in HKG? I would have thought that it would have been done on home soil and in a lot less than 5 days.

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RE: AC A345 C-GKOM Now With New Tail Scheme.

Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:22 pm

The C01 check was done in HKG because there was no space in YUL to do the check. 951 will have the same treatment, plus an A340 will be done in SIN and a couple 767's in DUB, AC takes heavy maintenance contracts from DL, US and TS, and outsources its own aircrafts...
 
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RE: AC A345 C-GKOM Now With New Tail Scheme.

Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:44 pm

Quoting Airbus340313x (Reply 4):
AC takes heavy maintenance contracts from DL, US and TS, and outsources its own aircrafts...

It might not make logical sense, but I guess we have to take it for face value considering Air Canada's lovely profit.
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RE: AC A345 C-GKOM Now With New Tail Scheme.

Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:50 pm

Quoting Cruiser (Reply 3):
Why would AC get the tail painted in HKG? I would have thought that it would have been done on home soil and in a lot less than 5 days.

James

A lot of airlines get their maintenance done with HAECO. What's wrong with that?
 
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RE: AC A345 C-GKOM Now With New Tail Scheme.

Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:16 pm

For those interested C-GKOL just passed the office on the way from HAECO to the terminal. Now with the new tail scheme, I assume its going to operate AC016 to Toronto today.
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RE: AC A345 C-GKOM Now With New Tail Scheme.

Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:27 pm

Quoting N754PR (Reply 2):

"AC are getting Boeing so Airbus is doomed" *biggrin*

Does that include ACs 32X family??

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RE: AC A345 C-GKOM Now With New Tail Scheme.

Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:15 pm

Does the tail say "FOR SALE"  Wink
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RE: AC A345 C-GKOM Now With New Tail Scheme.

Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:09 pm

Quoting MarshalN (Reply 6):

A lot of airlines get their maintenance done with HAECO. What's wrong with that?

I have since heard that these birds were going in for C-Checks over there. That makes sense. I thought it sounded odd that it would take 5 days to apply a sticker in HKG, when it could have been done overnight in Canada. It makes more sense if they had it in for a C-Check anyways.

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 8):
Does that include ACs 32X family??

Something like 30 of the older A320's will disappear, however, this is not because of the widebody order. Some of the A320's are getting old (average age right now for the A320's is 12.5years), so AC will fly the A319 on some of the A320 routes, and the new E-190's on some of the A319 routes to better match demand.


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Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:43 pm

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RE: AC A345 C-GKOM Now With New Tail Scheme.

Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:27 am

Quoting Fallingeese (Reply 5):
It might not make logical sense

Perhaps it is cheaper to have their work done in Asia than in Canada. Besides, with all the work coming in from US and DL, it may be worth more to pay to have AC's fleet done somewhere else and take in new customers. One of the concerns with ACTS was its reliance on Air Canada. Now that they have new and large customers, it will benefit ACE thanks to ACTS's value, especially since they are going to spin it off next year.

Perhaps I am wrong here, but AC aircraft would have priority when in mx, and that could cause problems when customers don't get their aircrafts or engines back in time. This was a major problem back in the 1990s when AC did work for UPS. UPS was very angry that AC couldn't get their engines out in time, and AC eventually lost that contract.

Quoting Cruiser (Reply 10):
Something like 30 of the older A320's will disappear

AC is only getting rid of a few A320s. AC has something like 48 A320s. They are not getting rid of the majority of the fleet!

They cancelled the last 2 or 3 A321s on order, and I don't think they are getting rid of more than 3 or 4 A319s in the coming years. Maybe someone has the exact numbers.
 
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RE: AC A345 C-GKOM Now With New Tail Scheme.

Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:33 am

How does AC fly YYZ/HKG when one of the 345s are in the shop? Do they swap a 343 onto the route?
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RE: AC A345 C-GKOM Now With New Tail Scheme.

Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:18 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 13):
How does AC fly YYZ/HKG when one of the 345s are in the shop? Do they swap a 343 onto the route?

Flight is substituted with an A340-300 and load restricted westbound.
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RE: AC A345 C-GKOM Now With New Tail Scheme.

Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:22 am

Yesterday GKOL operated back to Toronto and GKOM flew to Vancouver, leaving a A343 on the remote stands in Hong Kong....
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RE: AC A345 C-GKOM Now With New Tail Scheme.

Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:35 pm

If the tail treatment is like the A319 fleet, the tailart is just a stick-on decal...very quick to apply, and cheaper than repainting!
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RE: AC A345 C-GKOM Now With New Tail Scheme.

Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:14 pm

I notice that an A330 has gone down to Amarillo for a paint-job,i believe it's
fin 931,i wonder if it's the full respray or just decal on the tail????