ctang
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First A380 Operator In HK?

Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:51 pm

Since CX has not ordered the A380, who do you think the first airline to fly the A380 to HKG?
 
United Airline
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RE: First A380 Operator In HK?

Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:04 pm

I suppose SQ SIN-HKG-SFO or QF SYD-HKG
 
MarshalN
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RE: First A380 Operator In HK?

Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:18 pm

I am guessing SQ, if nothing else, to steal the thunder of potential QF arrival first?
 
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RE: First A380 Operator In HK?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:24 am

If EK, 5X and FX had their Freighters they would be in HKG now. Fright is just ridiculous at the moment.
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vincewy
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RE: First A380 Operator In HK?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:28 am

I doubt QF will send A380 there, their long haul fleet schedules for A380 will be filled with LAX, SIN-LHR, those flights won't leave any time for other routes, unles QF end up getting more A380. KE will be a more realistic possibility, the ICN-LAX sector can run to HKG during the day, TG too, with their LHR/FRA flights doing the same during the day.
 
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RE: First A380 Operator In HK?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:26 am

Quoting Ctang (Thread starter):
Since CX has not ordered the A380...

...yet!

Frankly, I can't see how Cathay can afford to be left out. Unless the A380 is a flop in service (as some here on A.Net predict/hope but I, for one, doubt), they'll have their major Asian competitor (SQ) flying 20+ A380s around and leaving CX with what are suddenly "old" 1980s technology 744s. Even an order for 747ADVs may narrow (but not close) the performance gap but SQ will still have a huge PR advantage. So will Thai and Malaysian and Qantas. No, Cathay will have to jump aboard - sooner, rather than later.

Who'll fly the first A380 into Hong Kong? Airbus, on a demonstration flight prior to a CX order for a dozen or so. And it'll happen within the next twelve months.
 
MarshalN
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RE: First A380 Operator In HK?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:29 am

Quoting PM (Reply 5):


Frankly, I can't see how Cathay can afford to be left out. Unless the A380 is a flop in service (as some here on A.Net predict/hope but I, for one, doubt), they'll have their major Asian competitor (SQ) flying 20+ A380s around and leaving CX with what are suddenly "old" 1980s technology 744s. Even an order for 747ADVs may narrow (but not close) the performance gap but SQ will still have a huge PR advantage. So will Thai and Malaysian and Qantas. No, Cathay will have to jump aboard - sooner, rather than later.

I agree -- I can't see CX not ordering it, unless A380 grossly underperforms and is a total dud. That seems rather unlikely. Even then, there are routes where they can use the A380.
 
HKGKaiTak
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RE: First A380 Operator In HK?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:57 am

What about EK? They've got to send their A380s somewhere ...

Or would VS steal the thunder, they're hoping to go LHR-HKG-SYD with the A380?

My money's on SQ for sending the first A380 service to HKG.
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vincewy
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RE: First A380 Operator In HK?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:27 pm

Quoting HKGKaiTak (Reply 7):
What about EK? They've got to send their A380s somewhere ...

Or would VS steal the thunder, they're hoping to go LHR-HKG-SYD with the A380?

My money's on SQ for sending the first A380 service to HKG.

EK - quite possibly, VS - not sure, currently they're not doing well on the HKG-SYD sector, SQ - other than test flights for crew training, SIN-HKG-SFO might see A380.

Quoting PM (Reply 5):
Airbus, on a demonstration flight prior to a CX order for a dozen or so. And it'll happen within the next twelve months

How about 20? Earlier I said at least 12, but they can possibly use 6 for 3 daily LHR flights, why not, additional slots are hard to come by, get full use of them, the remaining possibilities

LAX - 4
SFO - 2
YVR-JFK - 2
FRA - 2
CDG - 2
2 for reserve, maintenance, and regional flights to NRT, PEK, ICN, PVG or additional flights/seats during holidays

If you add cargos, they'll need even more, but it'll probably make sense to wait for passenger versions getting 15+ years and convert.
 
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RE: First A380 Operator In HK?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:05 pm

I think CX will not order the WhaleJet until they are absolutely convinced that it can fly SFO/LAX-HKG year-round without performance problems. I think they'll wait to see how well it operates in actual service. The earliest I could see CX ordering the WhaleJet would be late 2007.