Cubsrule
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Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:04 pm

I was flying on 9E a few weeks back with my girlfriend She slept much of the flight, and upon landing, the f/a asked me to wake her up. It makes sense, in the vein of raising tray tables and seatbacks and stowing carryon luggage, but I had never seen flight attendants wake anyone before and had never been awakened. Thus the question: do either 1) FAA regulations or 2) 9E company policy require passengers to be awake on landing, or was this just a case of an anal f/a?


P.S. The f/a seemed like she really wanted to work for WN... maybe some day they will come and liberate MEM.
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:21 pm

I fell asleep before takeoff on a trip early in 2005. Nobody woke me up. Don't think I've ever been asleep for a landing.
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:26 pm

Quoting Indy (Reply 1):

man ive done that who knows how many times
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:34 pm

I always fall asleep coming home from JNB or CPT. As soon as I settle in the CRJ for that last hour and a half home, I'm OUT! From Taxi out to Taxi in the gate, I'm sound asleep. One time, from a trip back from Africa, I slept on the last leg in a CRJ. Upon arrival after all the passengers deplaned and they swapped crews, a ramp agent cleaning the aircraft discovered me asleep in seat 12D. Thats the far corner of the CRJ. It's funny how I can never sleep on the 20 hour trip back on the Airbus or 744, but as soon as I'm on the RJ....
 
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:38 pm

Quoting I530j (Reply 2):
man ive done that who knows how many times

I did it on my flight from DTW to AMS back in Feb or March of this year. I was tired anyway. For whatever reason someone's bags made the flight but the passenger didn't. So the flight was delayed while they fished out the bags from the jet. Then of course there is the endless taxi. I tried but I just couldn't stay awake for it all  Smile
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:56 pm

I remember a few years ago flying JNB-JFK and before take off it was announced that for the landing in SID which was at about 3am local time, all passengers must be seated upright and awake. The cabin crew were waking passengers before landing whether their seats were reclined or not.
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:21 pm

I've never heard of that before. I've never been made to wake up and as much as I love the landing, I've slept through it many times.
 
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:34 pm

My brother fell asleep on a Delta flight from SLC to LAX on a 757 and he was asleep on landing in a 757 and when we touched the ground with this hard bounce and the plane started making odd noises(actually scared me) and he was still asleep.We were the last ones off the plane because it took five minutes to wake him up after the plane was empty!We eventually woke him up with the help of the Capt.and the rest of the crew!
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:56 pm

Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 7):
My brother fell asleep on a Delta flight from SLC to LAX on a 757 and he was asleep on landing in a 757 and when we touched the ground with this hard bounce and the plane started making odd noises(actually scared me) and he was still asleep.We were the last ones off the plane because it took five minutes to wake him up after the plane was empty!We eventually woke him up with the help of the Capt.and the rest of the crew!

Hence the reason pax should be awake for the most crutial part of flights....where emergencies are more likely to happen. if your brother was on an isle seat and it were an emergency landing he would be blocking the 2 other pax beside him from evacuating their seats.
 
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:01 pm

There's a book called "Wake up, It's a Crash!" It was about the first fatal 747 accident in Nairobi. The young son of the author said this to his brother who managed to sleep through the buffet of the stall, but not the impact. It's amazing what people can sleep though.
 
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:59 pm

Slept on take offs slept on landings

one time from ATL-LAS, this guy was so drunk, and still asleep, the F/A just decided to paint a moustache and some eyebrows on him with mascara and
he did not wake up, and then finally did and had this fake moustache on him and didn't notice and went off plane happy.
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:23 pm

It can hurt your ears quite badly. When I was flying DUS-LHR (when I was still small) I slept the whole flight, so I couldn't equalize the pressure in my ears. So for the whole week I was in London I had an ear infection and had to swallow disgusting medication.

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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:01 am

On a rcent flight I was sitting in the exit row and fell asleep before the plane even pushed back from the gate. I woke up about an hour into the flight. It kind of startled me as I was sitting in the emergency row.
 
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:50 am

My uncle always falls asleep as soon as he sits down in the chair and tells my aunt to "wake him up for the exciting parts" which drives her nuts. No idea how he does it.

I usually am passed out the last legs in to RNO after an overseas trip- like the SA poster above, for some reason the Nytol NEVER kicks in on the loooonnnggg flight but as soon as I get on the connecting flight I am OUT- 7-9 hours after I took the damn pill! Ive slept through a few LAX, LAS, and ORD takeoffs and landings though with RNO the turbulence by the lake usually wakes me up. No one has ever woken me before, but I dont recline my seat at all- too tired  Smile

Its really disconcerting to wake up and find that you arent where you were before, or that you are taxiing, but in a different town.
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:10 am

It is not so much whether you are awake or asleep, although it is beneficial to all that you are awake - the essential bit is that the seat is in the upright position for take off and landing for hopefully obvious reasons. This also applies to sleeper seats where there is a little light that illuminates when the seat is in the correct position so that the Cabin Crew can see the seat is correctly positioned.
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:37 am

Quoting Carduelis (Reply 14):
It is not so much whether you are awake or asleep, although it is beneficial to all that you are awake

The seatback was definitely up...I guess at this point, I am wondering if 9E has some sort of policy. It's clear it's not an FAA thing.
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:05 pm

the UA flight attendants woke me up last time i flown them before landing, i got a upgrade to business class seat, my seat was laying to the max it can go and i got seat belts on too.

[Edited 2005-11-06 05:09:13]
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:06 pm

I fell asleep on a takeoff for a number of times, at least 5, and nobody woke me up. But I never feel asleep on a landing.
 
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:31 pm

I have heard that falling asleep is a human reaction to extremely stressful situations that are difficult to deal with. I would not be surprised if many of you "narcoleptics (sp)" are actually terrified to fly and deal with it by sleeping it away. Be honest.....if the airplane was plummeting to the ground....wouldn't you rather sleep through it?

I understand that some people are really tired, and some fly so often that it is now boring....but there are many who feel uneasy when they have zero control of a situation (being a pax and not the pilot), and to avoid an obvious panic attack will opt for sleep instead....an Ambien(r) moment perhaps?  Wink
 
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:09 pm

I was coming back to Italy from SYD via VIE. I had all day visiting Vienna (came from SYD in the morning and departing to LIN in the evening) and I was extremely tired. My OS MD-87 was preparing to take off when the F/A announced there was a technical problem so we had to come back to the gate...I fell asleep until we taxied again for take off. I remember exactly the aircraft aligning on the runway and then....anything! I woke up in the middle of the flight.

Another time I was carefully watching the approach from the window seat (as I usually do) when I fell asleep until the "THUMP" of the landing!! (AP 737 LIN-FCO).

In both case my seat was upright and the tray closed and no one woke me up!
Maybe I am narcoleptyc?  Wink
 
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:53 am

I had a bizzare experience once and that was when I was in the F cabin of SQ744. I definitely remembered dozing off while seated before take-off and next I regained 'consciousness', it was about 10 mins to landing. Funny thing was, I found my seat in a 180 degree flat position, with a down-filled mattress underneath me and a duvet on top of me!! How the hell the mattress got underneath me was really beyond me!! I didn't remember getting up or being woken up!! Maybe the petite FAs managed to hoist me up and put a mattress underneath me! Until today, I still had no idea what happened there!!??!!
 
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:54 am

During the flight, if you look in front of you and you see a yoke or throttle, I'd prefer if you didn't sleep until we were gated... Otherwise, go for it!
 
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:12 pm

It makes sense to be alert during a Landing.However its difficult for the FA to monitor every Pax just before Touchdown.
A few Alert seconds can make a huge difference in an Emergency.
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:00 pm

I hate sleeping on planes. I'm always afraid that I'll miss something such as flying along another aircraft over the North Atlantic or something. Last time I actually slept was flying from SEA to DTW with NW. I was so tired because I drove all night to get to YVR for my flights. I woke up just as we were coming into DTW and no one said a thing. I can understand that it would be beneficial to be awake and alert just in case something happened, but if you're tired then you're tired and as far as I know there are no regulations against you sleeping during any phase of the flight (unless you're a crew member of course ...  Wink )
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:20 pm

I've slept through takeoffs and landings several times and I've been roused by FAs several times despite the seat being in proper position. My data set is not statistically significant, but I cannot discern any pattern.
 
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:24 pm

I think that by law you need to be awake for the safety briefings prior take-off. And likewise for landing in case of an emergency.

So if a F/A woke you up, then that's legit.

Having said that, I have once fallen asleep before an early morning 4am departure from DEL, and when I woke up 6-7 hours later, the aircraft was still on the ground because of fog. Then it too off around noon, and I was wide awake till SFO.
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:50 pm

I once boarded a KLM Flight from BEY to AMS.The flight arrived from AMM.(Back in 1994)
Sat next to a couple that were already in a deep sleep .I swear they slept the whole flight..no even for meals or water anything. We got off the plane in AMS and they were still sleeping..
Amazing..How people can do it?
I could never ever fall asleep on a flight. I have flown Red eye flights and early Morning departures and my eyes just wont Shut..


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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:01 pm

I wouldn't want to sleep during take-off or landing. Best bits of the flight!
 
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:04 pm

My daughter (FA with CO) told me they were preparing for a take off when she tried to wake a passenger to get him to fasten his seatbelt. She could not get a response from him because he OD'd on some kind of tranquilizer. He had to be taken off the flight under protest after they finally got him awake.
 
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RE: Sleeping On Takeoff/Landing?

Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:24 pm

Quoting Joshdean (Reply 27):
I wouldn't want to sleep during take-off or landing. Best bits of the flight!

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That is the best part.
i get so excited, my friends Say i alway  embarrassed  them.
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