brokenrecord
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Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:32 am

Yesterday evening on my flight (US 4) from PHL to ORF, I had a very interesting conversation with my seat-mate, who turned out to be the ex-owner of Enron (sold it in 1996, but served on the board well after that), as well as a former board member and big-time shareholder of Tyco. I found him to be a very nice guy, and I was really feeling pretty bad for him when he told me how bad he got screwed and how much money he lost for being honest throughout the two different scandals he had to go through. Had a lot of insight, and actually gave me some words of encouragement as a young professional.

Has anyone else sat next to someone somewhat famous (or infamous), and found them to be a nice, down-to-earth person?
 
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:42 am

On my 30th birthday I gave myself a trip on Concorde from LHR to JFK. Seated next to me was the (then) president of Snapple. He greatly encouraged me...to go see the cockpit of the aircraft...which I did.  Smile

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Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:10 am

A few Weeks back I flew NON-REV from DTW-SLC (E70) on Delta Connection/Shuttle America. I had the pleasure of loaning my USA Today Sports to Merlin Olsen also seated in First with me. This provided a great opportunity to barter that Sports page for an autographed boarding pass. Granted, his Hall of Fame Football career was a little before my time, I knew about him playing for the Los Angeles Rams. I had no idea he played as long as he did, from 1962-1976, obviously a great career. Then throw in his acting career on Little House on the Prairie along with being a Sports Broadcaster. A very pleasant gentleman still in great shape and very approachable.
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:29 am

Quoting Brokenrecord (Thread starter):
turned out to be the ex-owner of Enron (sold it in 1996, but served on the board well after that

Enron hadn't had a majority stakeholder since the 80s, and even then the ownership was corporate [Transwestern/ FNG]...

Rich Kinder has a NetJets stake in a Falcon 2000 and I believe he flies commercially from time to time but he didn't leave until '98 IIRC... if it was Rich then you were sitting next to a billionaire... a modest billionaire. I don't know of any dealings Rich had with Tyco though.

I'm drawing a blank on '96 unless it was '86... then it could make sense and be one of the Transwestern guys... but I think Ken Lay shoveled most of them off of the board by '90...

what was the chap's name????
 
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:49 am

Quoting Polar1 (Reply 2):
A very pleasant gentleman still in great shape and very approachable

Yup, sold flowers for FTD, but put a set of pads on him and he was one of the nastiest, meanest, toughest players ever to play the game.
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:44 am

Quoting MoPac (Reply 3):
what was the chap's name????

Steve Lawrence (Laurence possibly). I may have mistaken what he said, but I heard owner. Regardless, he was a great guy to talk to.  Smile
 
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:59 am

Had dinner at a Japanese steakhouse next to some guy that claimed to do X, Y, and Z like that. I was skeptical, so I went home and looked him up on the Internet...as I suspected, he was full of hot air...probably trying to impress the bimbo that he was with.

I've met several people like that.
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:23 am

Sat next to an "adviser" of Hillary Clinton who was in the newspapers a lot during 1999. She was one of the most interesting people I've ever met. Gave me some great advice too.
 
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:26 am

Sat behind Liam Gallagher from Oasis once, he was pissed and making a complete prick out of himself. Nothing new there. Couldn't work out why he was in Economy though, would have thought he'd be first.
 
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:30 am

Flew with Uriah Heep on a BA flight to YVR some years ago. I chatted with a couple of them, and had a good time with them as we continued to bump into them in various bars the following nights ...
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:39 am

Quoting Brokenrecord (Thread starter):
Has anyone else sat next to someone somewhat famous (or infamous), and found them to be a nice, down-to-earth person?

Sat next to BMI chairman Sir Michael Bishop once. He told me that journalists were a bunch of gossip-mongers and busybodies. I told him that was a bold statement from a man who'd brought three newspapers on the flight with him to read. Big grin
 
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:49 am

Years ago flying 1st class on AA I sat next to Robert Crandall. Really nice guy to talk to.
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:13 am

I sat across from Senator Jefferts of VT on a Jetblue flight from JFK-BTV, really nice guy. He asked the FA for a beer and some teenage girl behind him yelled "dude, the senators drinking beer." He laughed.
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:28 am

There celebs have all been on flights I've been on, although all in first while I was in coach:
ORD-ATL (UA)- NBA Hall of Famer Kareem Abdul Jabbar
ATL-PHL (DL)- golfer Gary McCord
ATL-PHL (DL)- singer Bobby Rydell
PHL-PIT (US)-former Eagles coach Buddy Ryan
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:50 am

I flew LHR-LIN on BA about 7-8 years ago, and Cindy Crawford was sitting at the gate reading Vogue. Needless to say, the Italian businessmen were falling over each other as they boarded the plane, which was very funny. She ended up sitting two seats in front of me... nice.
 
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:21 am

Quoting Brokenrecord (Reply 5):
Regardless, he was a great guy to talk to.

There is no reason why he wouldn't be though..if money inherently doesn't make you evil that is. Which i doubt  Smile There are many succesful and born rich people who remain with their feet on the ground, i know this first hand.

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 6):
Had dinner at a Japanese steakhouse next to some guy that claimed to do X, Y, and Z like that. I was skeptical, so I went home and looked him up on the Internet...as I suspected, he was full of hot air...probably trying to impress the bimbo that he was with.

I've met several people like that.

Amen to that. We all have met these posers at one time or another, with time you learn how to differentiate them from the real ones. Mostly the people that are very succesful and/or rich don't make a huge deal out of it and hence you will rarely even know it if they don't invite you to their home or you happen to ask a question that will reveal their net worth. This excludes most newly rich people and 99% of all celebrities (especially rap stars  Wink )

Last time i bumped into a guy that pretended he was more than he actually was was at Almaty airport in Kazakhstan last year. He was some Italian man in his mid 40's and was buying cigarettes from the taxfree shop with some VISA gold card or something like that. When the clerk said that he couldn't process the card this guy started shouting and yelling that indeed he could buy the whole store if he wanted etc etc. This behavior is so hollow, i wonder why some people have to act like this. They must have some severe short comings about themselves that they want to hide by appearing as someone they are not.
 
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:41 am

So this dude just owned Enron? Was it not a public company in 1996?

Quoting Nycfuturepilot (Reply 12):
I sat across from Senator Jefferts of VT

Did anyone say what the big Dick said to him on the Senate floor last year?
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:17 pm

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 16):
Did anyone say what the big Dick said to him on the Senate floor last year?


Correct me if I'm wrong, but our illustrious VP said that to Patrick Leahy (D-VT).
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:01 pm

During the 1970's I was at Auckland Airport flying to Wellington. I was in my teens and earlier in the week had attended "An Audience with Bette Davis" at the Auckland Town Hall. Imagine my surprise to bump into her entourage waiting to board the same 737 flight to WGTN. Having already obtained an autograph at the Town Hall, I took the opportunity to line up for another!

I nearly died when the venerable 'diva' - lowered her eyebrows into a typical Bette Davis "whaaaaaaat" look - then said in a VERY loud voice "....you already have my autograph from Wednesday last - AND!!!! your name is JOHN !..... " I must have looked terrified, as she then let loose with one of her loud laughs and told me most positively that "these will be valuable oneday my boy..... just make sure you send one of them to a museum!" - I still have that paper napkin! (was all i could find)

Those days it was NAC (National Airways Corporation) and there was only economy, but I was again rewarded by being seated in the row directly behind her on the aisle (she being on an aisle due to travelling with a wheelchair to a twisted ankle). If I was a 17 year old nuisance she never let on, but I did spend most of the flight squatting in the aisle chatting with her about so many of her movies - Bette even telling me that I was very similar in age and looks to her grandson Michael.

As we went our seperate ways at Wellington, as only Bette Davis could do - she 'shouted'.... "AuRevoir John - be safe........."

That is one flight I will treasure till the day I die.

JP
 
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:09 pm

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 6):
Had dinner at a Japanese steakhouse next to some guy that claimed to do X, Y, and Z like that. I was skeptical, so I went home and looked him up on the Internet...as I suspected, he was full of hot air...probably trying to impress the bimbo that he was with.

I've met several people like that.

I've met the posers as well, but I didn't have much reason to disbelieve this guy.

After all, we were in First, and there was nobody sitting next to him but me to impress. =P
 
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:01 am

On a flight from DFW to LAX on DL I sat next to porn star Stephanie Swift who had just finished attending a trade show in Dallas. That was in 1999/2000.

Nice girl.

My wife sat next to Jerry Lewis this June on a flight from ATL to LAS again on Delta. She said that Jerry was a very nice person and even called another passenger's mother on his cell phone because she was a big fan.
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:47 am

Quoting Pope (Reply 20):
My wife sat next to Jerry Lewis this June on a flight from ATL to LAS again on Delta. She said that Jerry was a very nice person and even called another passenger's mother on his cell phone because she was a big fan.

Very surprising, considering his ego can be viewed from space, but a great story nonetheless.
 
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:09 am

Wasn't exactly a seat buddy but I was in college at the time in 2002 and working for Ryanair on the ramp. We were taken out to do a walk out with the headset connected to the aircraft to signal n engine start to the pilot. When I finished my bit I had to walk back to the base. I seen a helicopter in the sky and there was a crowd gathered where the old tower was. I kept walking toward the crowd and was stopped by security and realised that they were protecting Bill Clinton. He seen me being stopped and I just said can I get a photo (camera in my pocket) Chelsea asked him and he agreed. I still have the photo and still can't believe my luck. If there was anyone working at Dublin Airport at the time I'm sure they would remember this.

Rob
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:38 am

back in 2003 on a LAS-SLC flight the guy next to me said his wife was the Governor of Montana, not sure if it was true, but id assume it was, dont think many guys would make that one up.
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:40 am

Quoting Abefroman329 (Reply 21):
Very surprising, considering his ego can be viewed from space, but a great story nonetheless.

I've never been a fan of Jerry Lewis but he seemed like a nice guy. He did look very sick, he had to be taken off in a wheel chair.
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:45 am

My most interesting seatmate was the time I was reading my "POOR SAILOR'S AIRLINE BOOK.....the story of PSA" and across the aisle from me were a few USAir Flight Attendants. I asked them if they had came from PSA and they said they had. I asked them if any of the four women on the back cover were still working there and one said, "Well this girl here is Lynn and she is sitting right beside me". I thought that was mighty strange.....having a book and the person across the aisle from me was on the cover. She was kind enough to autograph it too!
 
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:30 am

well...I was so lucky to sit next to Air Canada B767 Captain on Air New Zealand business class from CHC-SYD on 1st of January. He seemed very nice and gave me a AC postcard. I was soo happy to have him.
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:36 am

When I was 13 I had a very humbling experience on a flight to CLT. I was flying alone to visit my grandparents. The lady sitting next to me was a rather large woman, she looked very sad (crying almost). I tried to be friendly with her and start up a conversation. We ended up talking for most of the flight, about anything and everthing. It turns out she didn't have much time to live. She was dying. She didn't tell me what was wrong with her, but she looked pretty healthy, but I know she was sick because she had a ton of medical stuff with her. She thanked me for being nice to her and talking to her. I still haven't forgotten her after all these years. I'd take sitting next to her any day over someone famous.
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RE: Interesting Seat-mate Yesterday

Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:02 am

CVG-ABE (DL/Comair CRJ) - Mario Andretti. Very approachable gentleman, and since I had some racing knowledge (dabbled in some organized racing in my teens... not in a rice burner either) he was more than willing to swap stories (of course his were better than mine). He was just heading home from watching his (son's) team in Indy qualifying, back to his home here in the Lehigh Valley.