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Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:56 am

Allegiant Airlines has Grow Rapidly in the year of 2006 and with the acquisition of more MD-80s into their growing fleet; what can we expect from the Low Cost Low Fare Carrier as it ends 2005 into the Winter of 2006?

In 2005 Allegiant added Orlando Sanford as a (MINI) Hub which has turned out to be the biggest carrier at SFB. It already has 16 destination cities that fly into the airport day in and day out and so far its proved very profitable for G4. Many have stated that future Florida cities are on the horizon for Allegiant in the foreseeable future such as Fort Myer's with their brand new Terminal; Fort Lauderdale or Miami; and expansion into the Caribbean.

The airline has quickly rushed into the routes of Pan Am and TMA to reserve those cities that served TMA and Pan Am well and soon they will annouce many more cities. Here is a list I compiled with a friend that may prove to be very profitable for Allegiant in the first quarter of 2006.

Syracuse (SYR) This city was serviced by TMA just a few weeks ago and it did very well for them. This market would be one of the larger Allegiant Markets but would offer low cost travel to Orlando to all of upstate New York and could be even marketed for the Winter Ski Season in the area.

Columbus Rickenbacker (LCK) This city was service by Pan Am until the end of Summer before Pan Am scheduled a break in service until November; turns out they will not return. This airport is serviced by Hooters Air very well into MCO but their routes into SFB aboard Pan Am had very high loads and this area of Ohio has the most growth in the state; their would be NO Shortage of Passengers if the service is marketed correctly.

Youngstown/Warren (YNG) This area has been very unlucky; its location is stationed within an hour and 20 minutes of CLE-PIT-CAK snuggled away in the Industrial Area of Northeast Ohio. Many Airports this size would be served well with airlines; but with the growth of CAK and the international travel from CLE and PIT its been hard. Vacation Express had 80% loads while here in 2004. Pan Am left before even starting this past summer. It has some good qualities; 7,000,000 live within 1 Hour of the Facility; The Interstate to PIT-CLE-CAK is 2 minutes away; and the landing fees are only 1-2 dollars compared to CLE or PIT. $250,000 in unused marketing as well.

Other Cities to Consider; Erie, PA . Gary, IN . Southwest Florida (Fort Myers) . Miami-Ft. Lauderdale . Tampa-St. Pete

What other cities would you consider and how would the cities listed do well for the airline and do they have a good chance of service as many say.

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OH! PS-FATFlyer.. ATCRick. Can your elaborate on this or any other cities in the future plan?
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:59 am

Hey don't forget about the middle of nowehere Worcester MA.  smile 

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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:06 am

Quoting DeltaGuy767 (Reply 1):
Hey don't forget about the middle of nowehere Worcester MA. smile

????

Quoting Atrude777 (Thread starter):
In 2005 Allegiant added Orlando Sanford as a (MINI) Hub which has turned out to be the biggest carrier at SFB.

Just to clarify SFB is a focus city rather than a hub, You can't connect in SFB so it's not really a "mini hub".
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:09 am

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 2):
????

Alligant announced that they would be starting non-stop service form the Worcester airport in central Massachusetts about 40 miles form BOS to SfB this winter.

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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:17 am

Given their niche and the cities they choose I wonder if they've given any thought about serving the smaller communities in Alaska. I seem to recall they serve Bellingham, WA.
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:19 am

Quoting DeltaGuy767 (Reply 3):
Alligant announced that they would be starting non-stop service form the Worcester airport in central Massachusetts about 40 miles form BOS to SfB this winter.

I know Allegiant did, but not Alligant. Wink

On a serious note, what's your point? It was good news none the less, but could you elaborate on what your trying to say?
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:27 am

We all know what route I'd like them to start up.
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:29 am

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 4):
Given their niche and the cities they choose I wonder if they've given any thought about serving the smaller communities in Alaska.

The MD-80 doesn't have the range to do LAS-Alaska or SFB-Alaska (obviously).
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:57 am

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 5):
On a serious note, what's your point? It was good news none the less, but could you elaborate on what your trying to say?

Now I'm not wuite sure what you mean sir? All I was saying is that Allegiant is starting service frim a small formely used airport in Central Massachusetts and startign service to Florida. The only reason why I am stating this is that I live about 40 miles West of the airport in question I don't think I would make any clearer.

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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:01 pm

How about something like EVV - SFB? EVV is a similar sized town that TMA, Hooters and other similar carriers serve. It has been a while since I moved away from EVV, but when I was there they only had service to ORD (Am Eagle), CVG and ATL (Comair and ASA), DTW (NW) and I think PIT (US Air Exp).
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:53 pm

Quoting Atrude777 (Thread starter):
Other Cities to Consider; Erie, PA . Gary, IN . Southwest Florida (Fort Myers) . Miami-Ft. Lauderdale . Tampa-St. Pete

Erie... I'm surprised they haven't garnered one of these Florida carriers by now. Especially since Hooters is in damn near every city with a commercial airport in PA it seems lately. (PIT, AVP, ABE, etc.) I could see this. Limiting factor... what's the take off performance of an MD8x with fuel/pax/bags for Florida? Erie's runway isn't the longest in the world.

Gary... well, they weren't afraid to go after Hooters here in Allentown, but that would be another head to head fight. Also, they're already in SBN, and SBN isn't too far from GYY.

As for the Florida cities... I think they might sit tight in SFB for now.
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:35 pm

There are so many MSA's in the U.S. that fit Allegiant's profile, it's hard to say what town will be next. Palm Springs threw me off, I must say......never would have guessed that.

Allegiant would never come to Alaska. As mentioned earlier, the MD's don't have the range to get to LAS, and there are already two carriers that operate that route (one of them seasonally) out of Anchorage. MAYBE KTN, SIT, or JNU, but I'm not sure if G4 has the nav equipment to use those airports, and if it would even be cost effective to operate such routes.

Don't get me wrong....I'd love to see the sun tail at an AK field. Gettin' tired of looking at the "old man" day after day.
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:51 pm

I think St. Petersburg/Clearwater/Tampa Bay (PIE) would be a logical choice. Right now the only US carriers are USA 3000 and Hooters (CanJet and Fly Conquest also fly to several cities in Canada). And both USA 300 and Hooters have had a lot of success. USA 3000 is now serving 7 cities from PIE and Hooters just announced an expansion as well (serving 5 cities).

The advantages are that PIE is literally directly across Tampa Bay from TPA. It is a short drive across the bay to Hillsboro County with it's 1 million residents. PIE itself is in Pinellas county with a population of 1 million. That doesn't count the residents of Pasco and Manatee counties as well.

I have flown several times on USA 3000 to PHL and CLE and load factors were 100% on every flight.

I think the logical choice would be PIE-LAS. Only America West and Southwest have nonstops from TPA-LAS. I recently flew Frontier to LAS via DEN and about 60% of the passengers from TPA-DEN were also on the DEN to LAS flight. It seems the need for a PIE-LAS route is there.

And it would be nice to see some more airlines use PIE. Recent departures include Southeast, Lehigh Valley Air, ATA and Pan Am.
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:03 pm

Unfortunately, the MD-80 doesn't have the legs for Florida to LAS non-stop. With a useful load, the aircraft can usually fly around 1700 nautical miles, maybe 1800 at most.
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:11 pm

Evening all,

Wow, exciting stuff, huh? G4 continues to expand and started LAS-FAR service today. On the books, LAS-IDA, LAS-PSP, LAS-TOL, SFB-TOL, SFB-ORH. Big happenings at G4. Stay tuned.
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:37 am

I think Huntsville, AL and Knoxville, TN would be good markets for Allegiant.

HSV-LAS is 1600 miles and within range of the MD80s.
HSV-MCO is served by regional jets (I believe), but discounted fares and a full size jet would probably win this market over.

TYS-LAS is 1739 miles and might be a little too far for the MD80s.
TYS-SFB I believe is also served by regional jets but discounted fares and a full size jet would probably win the market over here as well.

Lexington, KY might be a good market as well.

LEX-LAS is 1686 miles and not served nonstop. LEX-MCO looks to be served once daily by a ERJ, I think Allegiant could establish themselves on that route as well.
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:41 am

Quoting Loisencroach (Reply 11):
There are so many MSA's in the U.S. that fit Allegiant's profile, it's hard to say what town will be next. Palm Springs threw me off, I must say......never would have guessed that.

I agree. And they are only doing weekend flights to Vegas.
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:09 am

LAS-JNU is 1775 miles... might be... although i dont know how many of Juneau's residents would want to go to Las Vegas? Possibly FAI-JUN-LAS? YXY-JUN-LAS? i dont think theyd attempt anchorage as AS would kill them a la NW.

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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:38 am

Juneau has one of the most affluent population centers in the state...packages to Vegas could work if they had a good working relationship with an area travel agency to fill the seats. You won't see those $69 one-ways out of JNU, though.
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:49 am

Quoting Atrude777 (Thread starter):
Youngstown/Warren (YNG) This area has been very unlucky; its location is stationed within an hour and 20 minutes of CLE-PIT-CAK snuggled away in the Industrial Area of Northeast Ohio. Many Airports this size would be served well with airlines; but with the growth of CAK and the international travel from CLE and PIT its been hard. Vacation Express had 80% loads while here in 2004. Pan Am left before even starting this past summer. It has some good qualities; 7,000,000 live within 1 Hour of the Facility; The Interstate to PIT-CLE-CAK is 2 minutes away; and the landing fees are only 1-2 dollars compared to CLE or PIT. $250,000 in unused marketing as well.

It would make more sense to fly out of PIT and attract way more people than YNG! Also YNG is such a depressed area.
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:34 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 19):
It would make more sense to fly out of PIT and attract way more people than YNG! Also YNG is such a depressed area.

PIT-Orlando, and PIT-LAS is already saturated. (US, WN, Airtran for MCO, US/HP, WN for LAS)
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:22 am

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 20):

PIT-Orlando, and PIT-LAS is already saturated. (US, WN, Airtran for MCO, US/HP, WN for LAS)

Exactly, which is why YNG is more attractive too.

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 19):
It would make more sense to fly out of PIT and attract way more people than YNG! Also YNG is such a depressed area.

As tornado82 stated too many airlines on the PIT to Florida routes..

YNG Fits Allegiant's Model; it was in a paper they were in talks with Allegiant and PIT has flights like these already; they would try to help YNG out and get the cheap gate space and free parking.. PIT doesn't fit into allegiant's model at all. If it did, they would already fly there, but it doesn't.

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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:54 am

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 21):
Exactly, which is why YNG is more attractive too.

Sorry I have been to YNG and there is NOTHING attractive about the area, let alone people with disposable income to travel. Pit would still be a better choice and would naturally attract a wider audience. And IF Vacation Express was in fact getting 80% load factors, it was because they were giving it away, price wise.
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:13 am

Luv2fly- My friend linked me to a video about YNG and such, looks interesting and amazing, check it out!!

http://www.mtsart.com/yng/YNG.wmv and maybe check out these photos of downtown Ytown.

http://www.downtownyoungstown.com/gallery/

From what my friend said and I agree, it certainly sure looks better than it was 10 years ago; and btw; the Mahoning Valley is the highest paid area in All Of Ohio; averaging $21 an hour....not to bad, considering I only make 6.50...in Illinois.

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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:31 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 22):
Pit would still be a better choice and would naturally attract a wider audience

If it were a different airline I would agree with you, but we're talking about Allegiant who targets the smaller/medium sized airports. They serve FNL and no one else does, so why not YNG? I think YNG with 2x weekly to LAS and 3x weekly to SFB would be sufficient. Allegiant's business model doesn't rely on the big city to big city revenue...they make their name in the smaller communities. I also think other cities that could pick up G4 service would be ERI, CRW, and MDT.
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:25 pm

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 23):
From what my friend said and I agree, it certainly sure looks better than it was 10 years ago; and btw; the Mahoning Valley is the highest paid area in All Of Ohio; averaging $21 an hour....not to bad, considering I only make 6.50...in Illinois.

If the Mahoning Valley is the highest paid area in all of Ohio like you claim, it is because only eight people in the whole area have jobs!!!! Trust me when I tell you it is one of the most depressed areas, considering for so long it was steel and only steel and we all know the bottom dropped out of that industry..... Though you are free to believe what you want, though out of the two of us, I have actually been there in person.
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:34 pm

Quoting Flyinryan99 (Reply 24):
If it were a different airline I would agree with you, but we're talking about Allegiant who targets the smaller/medium sized airports. They serve FNL and no one else does, so why not YNG? I think YNG with 2x weekly to LAS and 3x weekly to SFB would be sufficient. Allegiant's business model doesn't rely on the big city to big city revenue...they make their name in the smaller communities. I also think other cities that could pick up G4 service would be ERI, CRW, and MDT.

Also keep in mind that Airtran flies out of CAK and already serves MCO proper and a flight to LAS as well. I think unless Allegiant was giving it away it would be a tough road to tow no matter how you slice it.
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:46 pm

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 25):

If the Mahoning Valley is the highest paid area in all of Ohio like you claim, it is because only eight people in the whole area have jobs!!!! Trust me when I tell you it is one of the most depressed areas,

The richest area in Ohio is the Dublin-Powell area, i.e. Columbus' northern suburbs.
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:48 pm

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 25):
If the Mahoning Valley is the highest paid area in all of Ohio like you claim, it is because only eight people in the whole area have jobs!!!! Trust me when I tell you it is one of the most depressed areas, considering for so long it was steel and only steel and we all know the bottom dropped out of that industry..... Though you are free to believe what you want, though out of the two of us, I have actually been there in person.

My friend lives there, so he also knows what he is talking about, and I have been there too, only once and it was a while ago, so it is not what I remember now.


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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:53 pm

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 26):
Also keep in mind that Airtran flies out of CAK and already serves MCO proper and a flight to LAS as well. I think unless Allegiant was giving it away it would be a tough road to tow no matter how you slice it.

Allegiant and YNG have been debated time and time again on usaflying.com, guess it was only a matter of time till it came here. I have to agree with the above viewpoint. We aren't talking about a market where there is little nonstop service in the general area. YNG is adequately served by CAK, CLE and PIT.

However, G4 is in some markets that are otherwise untouched and small...so who knows.
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:54 pm

Out of all of Ohio the best option city wise would be LCK or DAY if you want my opinion!
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:42 pm

Although the article is a bit out of date, Allegiant is in this month's Airliners magazine. You might want to pick it up!
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:32 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 30):
Out of all of Ohio the best option city wise would be LCK or DAY if you want my opinion!

Well they chose TOL first, but LCK I would imagine would be the next one if they add in another city. The problem though is the range to LAS on the MD-80s. TOL is probably about as far as they can go.
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:07 am

They added GRB last summer twice per week and now up it to 4x per week so I think we are doing well for them here in Green Bay.

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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:34 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 30):
Out of all of Ohio the best option city wise would be LCK or DAY if you want my opinion!

I totally agree. DAY - LAS is probably one of the largest untapped markets out there. The question is, does the DAY airport authority want them or do they want FL to start it with a 73G? With FL flying FNT and CAK to LAS, one would think they could do DAY also. If Allegiant could jump the gun, I'm sure they would do really well there in DAY. Another market I think they could enter is FWA. Yes it splits TOL and SBN, but there is plenty to go around in the area.
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:57 am

Quoting Flyinryan99 (Reply 34):
I totally agree. DAY - LAS is probably one of the largest untapped markets out there. The question is, does the DAY airport authority want them or do they want FL to start it with a 73G? With FL flying FNT and CAK to LAS, one would think they could do DAY also. If Allegiant could jump the gun, I'm sure they would do really well there in DAY. Another market I think they could enter is FWA. Yes it splits TOL and SBN, but there is plenty to go around in the area.

I agree with what your saying, DAY would be a good choice especially if they get there before Airtran. Also FWA could work for the reasons you point out, though they are already in SBN so would they just be attracting the same customers they are already getting out of SBN and diluting the market by offering FWA.....
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:36 am

What other cities do you think G4 could possibly start? I can think of a few...EVV, FWA, RST(Rochester, MN), DLH(Duluth, MN), LEX, LNK(Lincoln, NE)....anyone else have some in mind??
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:41 am

My guess is Moab, Utah. Since their are over 150 different possible MSA's that fit Allegiant's destination profile, I'm going to guess one that doesn't. Speculation is speculation. Have at it, kids.
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:55 am

Okay,
I want all of your resume's immediately for the position of expansion planning. lol...I love how everybody bounces Allegiants expansion plans around. It's what is so great about these threads....I love all opinions...keep them coming..FATFlyer and I are loving every minute of it...
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:48 am

Better get CWA before WN grabs it!
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:00 pm

How about ALO because it's only an hour from my house.  Smile  Wink

But a more serious idea would be MLI, it's only 2 or so hours from CID but I really think it would do well.
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:08 pm

Quoting ATCRick (Reply 38):
I want all of your resume's immediately for the position of expansion planning. lol...I love how everybody bounces Allegiants expansion plans around. It's what is so great about these threads....I love all opinions...keep them coming..FATFlyer and I are loving every minute of it...

Funny you should say that ATCRick....I had applied for the Fare / Route Analysis position back in February. I had someone email me back an evaluation and got an email back after that but I tried to email a few times and a telephone call but didn't hear anything back. I was kind of bummed..lol I applied in hopes of doing the expansion planning position and researching new markets. Oh well..still stuck where I am

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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:43 pm

Quoting LUVRSW (Reply 39):
Better get CWA before WN grabs it!

Whoa...what? Wishful thinkin... wink 

Quoting ATCRick (Reply 38):
Okay,
I want all of your resume's immediately for the position of expansion planning. lol...I love how everybody bounces Allegiants expansion plans around. It's what is so great about these threads....I love all opinions...keep them coming..FATFlyer and I are loving every minute of it...

Oh its our pleasure...at G4 we know it isn't a matter of if a new city is about to be announced, but what it will be. Allegiant is praised because it isn't adding to congestion in superhubs. G4 is finding the niche in small airports...the convienance is obvious.
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:10 pm

Hey Rick,

Whats the minimum runway you guys need for about 950 miles of flight on a hot summer day?

And does G4 have its own gate anywhere?
 
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:37 pm

Quoting Atrude777 (Thread starter):
Columbus Rickenbacker (LCK) This city was service by Pan Am until the end of Summer before Pan Am scheduled a break in service until November; turns out they will not return. This airport is serviced by Hooters Air very well into MCO but their routes into SFB aboard Pan Am had very high loads and this area of Ohio has the most growth in the state; their would be NO Shortage of Passengers if the service is marketed correctly.

I was wondering the same thing, as to whether Allegiant would pick up where Southeast & Pan Am left off & operate LCK-SFB. I think they could make it work.

Quoting Ouboy79 (Reply 32):
Well they chose TOL first, but LCK I would imagine would be the next one if they add in another city. The problem though is the range to LAS on the MD-80s. TOL is probably about as far as they can go

Southeast operated LAS-LCK-ABE with an MD-80.

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Cadet57
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:54 pm

Quoting DeltaGuy767 (Reply 3):
Alligant announced that they would be starting non-stop service form the Worcester airport in central Massachusetts about 40 miles form BOS to SfB this winter.

can worcester even handle pax anymore? Cuz iirc there is no longer any airline service there. So are they all alone? Also didnt they get a new terminal like 3-4 years ago?
Doors open, right hand side, next stop is Springfield.
 
loisencroach
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:14 pm

What does iirc mean? I have always wondered, but could somebody help me out?
 
kcrwflyer
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:27 pm

Quoting Loisencroach (Reply 46):
What does iirc mean? I have always wondered, but could somebody help me out?

If i recall correctly?
 
September11
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Sun Nov 13, 2005 2:09 pm

Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 44):
as to whether Allegiant would pick up where Southeast & Pan Am left off & operate LCK-SFB

good point ... my family friends bought tickets on Pan Am few month ago -- for travel from Rickenbacker to Sanford this Christmas. I have not talked to them about this. It is my bet that they have been notified by Pan Am. I will ask my family friends.
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PVD757
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RE: Allegiant Airline's 2006 Winter Expansion

Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:49 pm

How about TTN Trenton, NJ or ILG Wilmington DE for G4???

Both could probably support 3 or 4xweekly to SFB...

add PWM to that list too.